The Diagram

How to reinvent rock and roll with Drums & Tuba...and guitar

Let's face it--the tuba isn't exactly a sexy instrument. When one thinks tuba, among the images generated are: polka, old men (detail: old men wearing black knee-high socks and bad plaid shorts), and flabby, elongated cheeks. Just how the New York-based trio Drums & Tuba produce such layered, groove-laden music from just guitar, drums, and tuba is an enigma even to the band's members. Yet since 1995, drummer Tony Nozero, tuba player Brian Wolff, and guitarist Neal McKeeby have been honing their amalgam of post-rock/experimental/marching-band funk. Though Drums & Tuba aren't completely alone in their instrumental endeavors, theirs is a peculiar slice of originality. Meaning: No other rock band puts such a non-rock instrument front and center. But, somehow, it works.

"I have to say I'm still shocked by the fact that people like it," Wolff admits, via phone from Nozero's apartment in Queens. "I don't think we had any intention of becoming a band and making it work. It's really fascinating when some old union worker will come after us and say, 'Hey, I didn't hate that.' I think they're pretty confused. I sort of translate it as, 'You know, I really have no idea what was just going on up there and what you're doing, but I think I liked it.'"

Drums & Tuba are far more than the sum of their parts. Through knob twiddling and deftness at the mixing board, Wolff morphs the sound of his tuba, while at the same time sampling guitar and drums. The resulting tuba sound can be more distorted than a kaleidoscope in a hall of mirrors. The mixing board, and Wolff's proficiency with it, allows Drums & Tuba to emit infinite possibilities from just three instruments.

There may be only three members in Drums & Tuba, but on stage and on record, it sounds like three dozen.
Greg Giles
There may be only three members in Drums & Tuba, but on stage and on record, it sounds like three dozen.

"The setup is basically this: There's guitars and drums and tuba, which is miked," Wolff explains. "I just run that signal through lots of guitar effects and delay machines. I have a mixing board, and I mike the other instruments. I sample stuff as people are playing it. We usually start with a drum sample, just because it's easier to follow. So we'll sample the drums and then add on a tuba bass line to that, and then I'll run the tuba through some effects so it sounds like a keyboard or something. Then I'll play over the top of that."

Ultimately, Wolff's tuba is to Drums & Tuba what the sax is to Morphine, or what the trumpet is to London drum-and-trumpet duo Spaceheads. Not surprisingly, both bands come up in the course of conversation with Wolff and Nozero; Wolff, especially, pays homage to Spacehead Andy Diagram and his "trumpet through electronics." The comparison is inevitable, and the band does well to acknowledge the similarity, even naming the first song on Vinyl Killer (their latest CD) "The Diagram."

Though Wolff's tuba does attract attention, he is by no means the front man. Nozero's lively, polyrhythmic drumming and McKeeby's technical prowess on guitar (he plays two at once) round out the trio, and each member is indispensable. Upon forming the group, however, Wolff and Nozero were a duo going by the no-explanation-needed name Just Drums & Tuba, playing on the streets of downtown Austin, where they were living in the early '90s. Realizing they were missing an important element, they invited McKeeby to sit in.

"I think we all just kind of have an exploratory nature," reflects Wolff. "It's all about making sound, but sometimes we get trapped into thinking, 'This instrument is supposed to do this specific thing.' I think we've tried not to create a sound of any kind. We just get together and whatever happens, happens. If people like it, they like it. If not, oh well. We're lucky enough that it seems like people have liked it."

The two most important people who like it are folk singer Ani DiFranco and her husband, Andrew Gilchrist. Cultivating a friendship with DiFranco and Gilchrist, also a producer, means that Drums & Tuba have been exposed to larger, more diverse audiences than would be expected from a rock band featuring a tuba. After spotting a Drums & Tuba disc at Waterloo Records in Austin, Gilchrist contacted the band about opening for DiFranco on tour. Though Wolff was living in New York, Nozero in Chicago, and McKeeby in Austin, the three soon decided to invest wholeheartedly in the band. Nozero and McKeeby relocated to Queens and Brooklyn, respectively. As a result of the association with DiFranco, Vinyl Killer was released on her own Righteous Babe Records.

"It's been a continuous pleasant surprise to me in that it seems to go over to a wide range of people," Wolff says. "It's not a specific type of music. It's not a punk-rock scene, it's not a groove scene, but yet those guys will both come to shows. It's kind of interesting to watch the audience and see people who would never normally be at a show together interact with each other."

Vinyl Killer is the trio's fourth full-length album and amplifies their darker, Tortoise-like gift for meaningful experimentation. As Wolff emphasizes, Drums & Tuba believe in song structure and avoid self-indulgent improvisation. "We definitely have a map," says Wolff. "We're not entirely into jamming. I'm a firm believer in songs. The music is really out there and all, but it's not interesting unless it's a song."

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