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"There are no songs anymore," Vogeler adds.

"I went to Best Buy today to buy some blank CDs so I could burn about 50 CDs before Napster shuts down," Reznicek says. "While I was there, I went to see if there were any new releases this week, and they have this one long row of what's hot or what's on sale, and it was all crap. There's, like, fuckin' two million manufactured teeny-bop bands I've never heard of before, and they all have terrible names. It's all about what you look like now. I'm afraid kids are going to grow up and feel like, 'I don't need to nurture any talent I might have, because I'll just be pretty and wait for someone to discover me and throw me on stage.'"

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"We almost didn't survive," The Toadies' Todd Lewis says. Good thing they did.

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Remember this band? Maybe you should check the sign around drummer Mark Reznicek's neck.

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"It makes you just wanna go out and get breast implants," Umbarger says, and the table laughs.

"We're so old," Reznicek says, "the last new record we bought was in the 1970s."

No, they're told, the last new album you released was in the '70s.

"Yeah," Umbarger says, smiling, "we've been around a long time."