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But Pleasant Grove has been stuck. Their 2001 sophomore disc, Auscultation of the Heart, saw European release but never found a record label in the United States, and the lack of an album and national support on this side of the pond left the group unable to tour much beyond its home state. The stagnation made unfulfilled queries from labels like Lost Highway and Kindercore sting even worse, and before the guys finally found a home with California's Badman Records, multi-instrumentalist Joe Butcher left the band.
Pleasant Grove's response to such depressing stimulus? They chose to rock.
"We know each other so well that it's ingrained," Ryan says. "We have a regimen of practicing, and I talk to everyone almost every day. We're connected communicatively, emotionally and musically, and that means we're at our top level."
The guys emphasize their unity repeatedly, possibly because the loss of Butcher still seems pretty fresh even after almost a year. Before I get a chance to say his name, the band talks about how the former member of Dallas pop-rock outfit UFOFU influenced the changing sound of Pleasant Grove.
"He was always hearing more [than we did]," Striplin says. "He could see more potential within the band. He pushed my buttons. I'm sure he pushed everyone's buttons."
"Once, we were in Chicago, and Joe said, 'We should start the show with a huge fucking bang,'" Ryan says. "We did, and it got everyone's attention. It was a huge explosion, and we played our songs from there. It was great."
But even though Butcher's experience and cheerleading planted some of the seeds of an increasingly louder Pleasant Grove, he departed last summer to play pedal steel for the Polyphonic Spree, currently signed to Hollywood Records and preparing for an album this summer, Together We're Heavy. Egner calls the loss of Butcher a "major blow," while Ryan says the band "misses Joe as a friend."
"Joe's a veteran, and he was watching us younger individuals go through something that he'd either seen or been through," Striplin says. "I'm sure that was frustrating to be run through the cycle again. I think [joining Polyphonic Spree] worked out for him. With Polyphonic, he's seeing the world, hanging out with David Bowie. It's not so bad."
The cycle Striplin mentions lasted almost two years, during which Pleasant Grove sat on a completed record and toured little outside of Texas and Oklahoma, aside from a brief and successful European tour in support of the overseas Auscultation release.
"When we're over there, things are different," Striplin says. "At one club, we walk in, say we're from Pleasant Grove, and this guy says, 'Oh, this is your room.' We go in, and I swear to God, there's a table that must have been 12 feet long, and the entire thing was covered with food and wine and water, and I'm like, 'Who the fuck are we?'"
"Then we come back a month later to tour with [Denton band] Slobberbone," Ryan adds, "and we're all sleeping on the floor."
Magierek must've gotten the statement, because soon enough, the band flew to San Francisco, where Magierek recorded a few demos, and at that point he gave the green light for an album release. The first PG album for Badman had to be new, though: All parties agreed that Auscultation shouldn't see re-release in its entirety. Magierek was excited about the latest demos and wanted a new album, and the band was ready to leave Auscultation behind.
"In the long run," Striplin says, "I would hate to have that record out now, to be stuck playing those songs for another year and then have to wait two more years for another record to come out."