Ay, Anonymous

Bloggers say byte me

he following are excerpts from the comments section on the local music blog www.WeShotJR.com. The comments refer to a blog entry about a Denton band, Matthew and the Arrogant Sea. They're "The Biggest Local Band You've Never Heard Of," according to the entry, written by WSJR's blogmeister, who goes by the name StonedRanger. All of these are presented here unedited.

Dear Jason,

Please shut the fuck up. You sound like a complete tool. Are you really trying to correct these guys in how "big" someone is? Quit being such a condescending little fuck. —Anonymous

Matthew, you're a fucking joke —Anonymous

fuck your writing

—that was the longest stupidest post i've ever read on weshotjr.

seriously, cut that shit out. –Anonymous

Nice.

The comments referred to StonedRanger's reporting MATAS' claim that they were on the verge of scoring a $6 million record deal with EMI Records. Almost immediately after the StonedRanger's article posted, comments came pouring in, concerned mainly with arguments pro and con regarding the following three points:

1. Either the record company is lying or MATAS is lying, because a dying record industry would never sign an unknown little folk band to a $6 million deal.

2. MATAS is lying, because EMI in fact does not exist anymore.

3. MATAS is intentionally making outrageous claims to get publicity for the New Sabbath Festival, produced and promoted by some members of the band. MATAS needs to do this because they signed on local bands to play for free with the promise that said bands would be opening for some big, nationally known acts, but MATAS failed to procure such acts.

More than 200 comments were posted, and while some of them were relatively thoughtful and/or respectful, most were so loaded with steaming vials of vitriol that soon the "discussion" degenerated into something that more resembled a fascist book-burning than an online conversation about music.

Subsequently, two members of MATAS tried to clear things up with a rather bizarre post that basically claimed Matthew had made the entire record deal thing up in his head and might be suffering from mental problems (I highly recommend you read it in its entirety; it's...interesting), which prompted more than 100 additional tidbits of pissiness, including this doozy:

God, just shut up already ya fucking losers. Fuck you and fuck your "festival". God, you're going to feel like such a lame ass when you're struggling threw your 900th gig in the 5th band you've been in, looking back at a time when you were so diluted that you thought Denton, Dallas, the WORLD, gave a shit about you. Get over yourself. Fuck off. Fucking dipshit kids. There's 4 festivals a week in Denton. You're one more so what? Good job on learning how to write messages to dudes with acoustic guitars and getting them all in one spot for one day. You are a wizard of art! Now, I'd just like to laugh in that annoying 18 year old chicks stupid face.

You guys. Fuck off. —Anonymous

Does this seem a little out of control to anyone besides me? The bizarre twists and turns of just what is up with Matthew's invention, if, why and how he duped his band, what's publicity and what's really not, what's real and to whom, is so through-the-looking-glass odd that it merits its own investigation (check next week's Dallas Observer for more), but let's just take a look right now at the nature of these posts to get started.

The insipidly angry—violent, even—tone of much of the commentary is so over the top it makes me wonder if it all is just one big joke or publicity stunt (but for whom? WSJR? The City of Denton Chamber of Commerce?), or maybe a parody of the cattiness of certain elements of the DFW scene. It starts getting all Vanilla Sky—What's reality? Can I trust what I'm seeing on the surface? Did that person really die in that car wreck? It makes for an interesting thought exercise, but ultimately, something so knotted can't be untangled.

What's more important, however, is to ask the question, What does this have to do with music? There is constant bitching—online, on the street, in letters to various editors—that DFW has no cohesive scene, that Deep Ellum is dying because no one goes to shows down there anymore and that nothing will ever be as magical as the mythical good ol' days when skinheads and hip-hop artists lived in peace under the aegis of our sun goddess, Edie Brickell. The stunning irony is the bitching is so mean-spirited, bratty and devilish, it's the exact kind of divisive behavior that shatters cohesion like Kurt Cobain's guitar. Why the fuck would anyone want to engage in an environment wherein the slightest move gets you bombarded by toxic fallout? No wonder there are so many cracks in our foundation.

I'm not suggesting some kind of Pollyanna world where we all get along, have the same opinion and skip hand-in-hand through a meadow of marshmallows and gumdrops: Of course, music scenes always thrive on a delicate balance between a certain foxhole-like camaraderie and the charge of childish behavior. A bit of tension is essential to get the juices flowing. But our scene, friends, has more unnecessary drama than a gay cruise ship. This constitutes exactly the kind of self-destructive, hipster-on-hipster crime that crushes creativity.

Why? Because it's an energy suck. Of the several hundred comments I read, only about 20 percent had anything to do with actual music, and most of those were restricted to variations on "your music blows." Not even, "your music blows, but here's how it could be better," or "your music blows, but may I suggest this music that doesn't." Just a feverish, heated debate, with a bunch of name-calling by those who were not even ballsy enough to stand behind their comments by giving their real names, of course. It's a waste of time, but worse than that, it's boring.

I'm sure I'll get loads of e-mails in response to this column that read something like, "What? We're not mean! You don't know what you're talking about, you fucking idiot," so rather than answer them all one by one, let me just submit the following exchange from the Great Matthew and the Arrogant Sea Debate of 2007, Comments Section, as evidence:

4:43 p.m.: It's pretty upsetting that so many people would take time out of their day to lash out at a band, who like every other band out there, is just trying to make it. Where I'm from, musicians support other musicians, regardless of success, failure or style of music. Musicians should be supportive of other musicians, because having that sense of community is what should separate us from every other soul sucking enterprise out there. It's about sharing the struggles and the victories, not berating and cutting others down. —Jessica

4:50 p.m.: well jessica, you've obviously never experienced the dfw/denton "music scene" thats just not how it's done around here. —Anonymous

 
  • anon 08/10/2007 1:23:00 AM

    The ONLY reason I have any clue as to the existence of this sad little page-waster is that it was mentioned on WSJR. Period. The Dallas Observer used to have some form of relevance, pretty much from Wilonsky all the way up until, oh, early fall of 2006. And by the way, my name is not Sam.

  • Amanda 08/09/2007 9:16:00 PM

    Everything has its' place and function. If I need to know when a Ratt cover band is playing at Firewater Bar and Grill's Free Jello Shots for the Ladies Night, I know to check the Observer. If I want to know about something good, interesting, worthwhile and enjoyable I know to check We Shot JR. Now if only I knew where to get a great Legs and Eggs buffet or figure out how to smoke pot and GET PAID!!!!

  • Amanda 08/09/2007 9:16:00 PM

    Everything has its' place and function. If I need to know when a Ratt cover band is playing at Firewater Bar and Grill's Free Jello Shots for the Ladies Night, I know to check the Observer. If I want to know about something good, interesting, worthwhile and enjoyable I know to check We Shot JR. Now if only I knew where to get a great Legs and Eggs buffet or figure out how to smoke pot and GET PAID!!!!

  • Joe 08/09/2007 7:36:00 PM

    Why is anyone still surprised when denizens of message boards act like douchebags? They're anonymous and they have an audience. That brings out the worst in a lot of people.

  • Jon 08/09/2007 7:25:00 PM

    Several bands you could have written about (since you can't seem to find any): *Nouns Group - By far the best band in the area right now. They actually just got back from a tour a few weeks ago. *MOM - They're having their cd release in a few weeks. *Ghosthustler - They've got a lot of hype around them these days. Do they deserve it? I don't know, you find out. *Faux Fox - You should know about these guys atleast. Everyone freakin' knows about Faux Fox! *Record Hop - They just recorded a pretty sweet album with Steve Albini. This should have been written about months ago. Where have you been? There are a crap load of bands you could have written about. You could have even written something about Matthew and the Arrogant Sea in this article you wrote. We all know that the DFWd music scene can improve. What do you suggest? Do you suggest we go to shows and support local artists? I suggest you do that. I suggest you go to the DOMA Showcases and write something about atleast one band at each of the venues. I think some of the bands on my list are playing at some of them. Some other bands you may want to check out as well are: Voot Cha Index, Tame...Tame and Quiet, The Happy Bullets, Beauxregard, Joey Kendall, Fishboy, Hardin Sweaty and the Ready to Go, The Frenz, Help! Saint Anna, Eaton Lake Tonics, Koji Kondo, Eat Avery's Bones, The Undoing of David Wright, A Childlike Fear, Treewave, and many others.

  • DTC 08/09/2007 6:44:00 PM

    you can write about the weshotjr anon comments all you want, but its long supplanted your insipid little rag as the gold standard for music news. while you guys are the next best thing to outhouse wallpaper, theyre actually going out and getting stories like that one. if you guys had been doing actual music journalism instead of doing profiles on stuff like She-Dick, that story would have been yours, instead you simply doing a post mortem of it.

  • Cody 08/09/2007 6:20:00 AM

    There's the people that stir up shit for attention (or for spite when they don't get enough of it) and then there's plenty more that work away at the dayjob, establish some sort of home base, and make some damn good and honest music worthy of attention (mostly) without the need to spew venom, send out a million "vote for me!" messages or start some rediculous drama. I'm sure there are folks like that in dallas, and I know there are in Denton. Take the trip up sometime. Come hang out w/us @ SHQ & we'll give you a beer and introduce you to some great people.. or hang out on the patio of Dan's at midnight on a random weeknight and jump into a conversation. Just PLEASE don't think that one group of kids that may or may not just be trying to promote some "festival" or random venom spitters from who knows where is a representative group of what's happening in Denton these days.

 

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