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V 09/05/2009 11:00:00 PM
"H1Bs are cheap labour"
I can vouch for myself and all my collegues that they ARE earning much more than the average salary. We work hard and otherwise company would not spend money on the visa fees, lawyer fees etc.
IRS has all the information about how much H1B's earn, it can easily find out the reality here. If politicians are truly interested in finding out the truth, they can sponsor an IRS report H1B salaries. I'm pretty sure that this isn't happening because it would bring out true facts. There are just 100K H1Bs every year and there is MUCH MUCH more than employment than that. However, politicians like the fact that american public is not seeing the true reasons but getting deflected towards small number of H1B folks.
Why is education so expensive in US colleges? Why don't americans go to colleges to study? US Govt. is spending Billions on cars, housing , why is it not sponsoring scholarships for americans to go to colleges?
I've a good american friend at work. He has 3 boys and none of them is going to college. This is about someone who has earned 100K+ salary for over 20 years and both parents are proffessionals. It is time that we focus energies on children and send more of them to college.
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Tim 04/06/2009 8:33:00 PM
What a brave young woman...you are the kind of people we need to keep America on the top. Ignore my fellow Americas who just hate immigrants...I'm sure they are good people but brainwashed by groups like number***usa etc.
Good Luck!
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Vasan 03/03/2009 7:43:00 PM
Hi
Don�t worry about the children academic pressure. If we haven�t studied in pressure in India then we won�t be here. Also if over children study here then they can�t competes with the world that is true fact. Also to make your children eng or doctor you will rain you entire 401k. So make them graduate over there (in India) send him for masters over here (like what you did) and they will complete all 14 papers in just 13 months.
I have friends, whose children studied here from beginning and same his cosine studied in india and came here , both are same age and now you see them knowledge wise , is a wast difference. I can say is 40% Indian guy is cleverer then children studied over here. I�m almost 45 yeas old and I came here as per my companies work and still I have to stay one more here but I�m sending my children back to India for study. In India which type of dance and academy you want I can give complete address of all those stuff from Mumbai.
Recently, last year , there was an article that in some state of India they were planning to put children study same as USA up to 12 th std. but then some of the NRI�s suggested that whatever you are doing please think twice and they suggested that our children�s are here because of India�s cream knowledge otherwise Other countries like US/UK they don�t like us from our birth itself. . That why I quoted above
�If we haven�t studied in pressure in India then we won�t be here�
Life is very small. Let we enjoy with our family, culture and religions as well.
Over here until you did you will miss India and our family, culture and religions too. Trust me. Think.
Thanks
Vasan
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Mark 09/06/2007 9:56:00 PM
I'm getting tired of hearing about these intelligent, educated, hard-working people whe are clamboring to stay here. GO AWAY, WE NEED UN-EDUCATED MEXICANS TO WORK HERE FOR SUBSTANDARD WAGES. How else are corporate managers and dirty politicians going to make a good living? We need to decimate our economy, overburden our schools, healthcare and public services. Get with the program you damned patriots. The idea that WE SHOULD KEEP quality immigrants is so "last-century".
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Diego Wayne 09/05/2007 11:43:00 PM
I agree that the USA needs immigrants... a few immigrants. But they issued far too many student visas, and far too many H-1b and L-1 and E-3 visas and J visas. And too many green cards. The numbers of green cards should be reduced, and then the numbers of gues-work and exchange and student visas which feed into the green card pipe-line should be reduced far more in line.
The US population is growing, and growing too rapidly in part due to excessive immigration both legal and illegal. Yes, the illegal immigration should be throttled down to a practical minimum trickle, from over 3K per month to something more like 300 per year, and legal immigration should be cut back from over 1M per year to something a lot closer to 50K per year while we deal with the current over-population pressures.
The USA has more citizens who are bright, well-educated and experienced science and tech workers than it is fully employing.
http://www.kermitrose.com/econ.html#Summary
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enough_already 09/01/2007 7:35:00 PM
RE: �instead of whining, improve your skills, change your attitude and compete in the job market�
My point exactly, Niloufer �and others like her� should stop whining.
Niloufer accepted visas first as a student, then as a �temporary� worker, yet she now wants even more! Talk about a whiner! How much is enough?
It is only natural that animosity exists surrounding this myth of a desperate software labor shortage. You must remember that the Americans who were replaced by the cheap and inferior labor were well educated and productive long before the H-1Bs and L-1s arrived. There was no crisis.
For those of you who have used ad hominem attacks or red herrings, you are working from flawed positions (Stop thinking like low-level coders and look for the overall trend like a software architect would do). Individual exceptions do not prove the rule� The big picture is where a supportable case can either be made or lost. Arguing with flaws only proves that you cannot make legitimate claims to support you�re being factually necessary.
This debate has a long way to go toward being resolved�
RECOMMENDED READINGS ABOUT UTILIZING CHEAP THIRD-WORLD LABOR:
(1) Globalization and the American IT Worker: Exporting IT jobs and importing IT workers not only harms U.S. IT workers, it also harms U.S. firms and the broader economy.
See http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/CACM.pdf
(2) Professor Norm Matloff's H-1B and Offshoring Web Page
See http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html
(3) Watch �immigration attorneys from Cohen & Grigsby explaining how they assist employers in running classified ads with the goal of NOT finding any qualified applicants, and the steps they go through to disqualify even the most qualified Americans in order to secure green cards for H-1b workers
See http://www.youtube.com/programmersguild
(4) The Best Job in Town (the Americanization of Chennai, India due to outsourcing performed by firms like Office Tiger)
by Katherine Boo (The New Yorker, July 4, 2004)
See http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2004/the_best_job_in_town
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gcisadawg 09/01/2007 5:22:00 PM
Dear Mr.h1bmythslayer:
You mentioned "The fact is that the visas were issued as �temporary� work permits and were never intended to be paths to American citizenship."
This is not correct. H1B/L1 are dual intent Visas. They are intended both as temp. work permits and as a path to citizenship.
Those Indians in Verizon, IR that you mentioned in your post are in danger of loosing their jobs too due to Verizon India operations that are growing day by day. I've seen H1Bs getting laid off too along with US nationals/PRs. Nobody is safe here dude in a fast changing world! As a H1B, I goto work everyday knowing that my job is tied to the needs of my employer and can be asked to go any day. When this happens, I've to uproot many years of life and go back to my place of origin. And I'm fine with that because that is the risk I'm taking for the reward of a Green card. Legal Immigrants are only playing by the rules and asking for what was promised to them but delayed due to bureacracy, politics and the hotbutton issue of illegal immigration.
If most IT jobs get outsourced then the demand for H1B/L1/Green card holders/Citizens would tumble no matter what the status is. IT wages would come down. We would be entering the real flattening of the world. And I see that coming and want to be prepared!
-gcisadawg
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alex77 08/31/2007 11:03:00 PM
Those against LEGAL immigration forget that USA is NOT a welfare state. USA is run by CORPORATE and corporates are not for CHARITY. If corporates can find quality immigrant worker at an affordable salary, they will hire the immigrants. Being born in the land of opportunity does not give you opportunity, you have to create it for yourself. Land of opportunity has always attracted hardworking people who believe in changing their destiny. These legal skilled professionals are productive from DAY 1 of landing in America. They pay taxes and Social Security which most of them cannot claim as they have to retrun after a temporary stay. So, instead of whining, improve your skills, change your attitude and compete in the job market.
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Bijal 08/31/2007 6:03:00 PM
Niluofer you Rock!. She is my old friend and we have studied together for 2 years. You are absolutely write in what you said and I completely agree with you. Infact, I am thinking of the same in past few months. I am frustrated with my work since I am not promoted and I can't change my job as well.
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h1bmythslayer 08/31/2007 3:50:00 PM
RE: "I feel bad for this girl and thousands of others who suffer because of a poorly designed and conceived system."
The system is doing exactly what it was designed to do and has benefited her in numerous ways yet she is dissatisfied with the level of welfare she has received. Hasn't she benefited enough already?
I don't feel bad for her or the other visa holders at all. The fact is that the visas were issued as �temporary� work permits and were never intended to be paths to American citizenship.
For her part -as well as for other H1-B and L-1 visa holders - she has had:
(1) Preference is being hired for a job in her field,
(2) A stable position,
(3) Decent to very decent middle class wages,
(4) Has been able to live in America versus living in the third world squalor and corruption of India, and
(5) She has had a solid on the job foundation in establishing her career.
Go to Verizon in Irving, TX, walk into their IT departments and you will swear you are in India because the density of H1-B and L-1 immigrants reach a critical mass there. It is the same in many other IT departments in other major D/FW metroplex corporations as well.
By comparison, look at the success rate of American computer scientists/management information systems graduates in finding high technology jobs and you will see them:
(1) Being shunned so that corporate recruiters can hire cheaper, younger, and less experienced H-1Bs,
(2) Working in McJobs while dreaming of breaking into an IT job that can utilize their skill set,
(3) Earning paltry wages often with no benefits (47 million Americans with no health insurance),
(4) Living in America while watching third world corruption and classism of Indians permeating the professional ranks (Can anyone say dalits?), and
(5) Having very little hope of establishing expertise in careers they have frequently earned BS or MS degrees to prepare for.
The issue here has never truly been about quality, ability, or supply - the IT field was born here before H-1B/L1 immigrants ever arrived - these folks have already enjoyed a great many advantages yet now they want even more. I urge you to ask yourself, how much is enough?
She and her fellow immigrants are ungrateful. If you invited someone into your home, fed them, let them use your kitchen, gave them an allowance, and then had them ask you to move out so that they could take possession of your home would you feel like you'd been appreciated or would you feel like things were out of balance? It is the same situation here.
Signed,
A displaced American IT professional
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Babs 08/31/2007 11:40:00 AM
The unemployment numbers are bogus, and everyone knows it. They don't count underemployment, for one thing. The salesman who measured my graduating son for a suit was an ex IT guy. I run into IT people all the time, often doing non IT work just to survive. I also run into many IT people who are working far below the level their skills and histories would lead you to expect. I'm an IT hiring manager, and whenever I post a job it makes me incredibly sad to see how many sharp American candidates show up, because I want to hire most of them but only have one or two openings to fill. That's why I can't figure out why these companies complain they can't find American talent and need foreign workers. I literally bump into great American IT talent all the time.
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krishnas 08/31/2007 5:35:00 AM
>> Babs Wrote
>>America was a world leader in technology, engineering, innovation, science and >>business for decades before any significant number of these 'immigrants' were brought >>in.
Today the real problem is a typical Corporation does not have an efficient HR process that can work fast to hire people whether they are U.S Citizen / permanent resident / H1B. So head hunters get involved and abuse the immigration system. Not every job requires innovation or creativity. Agreed that most H1Bs do routine work that a typical college educated American can do if only they can sacrifice a bit and have a better attitude.
But the fact of using slave labor for mass production did not start with Dot Com era.
You are brushing aside centuries of slavery that is part of American history that was indeed sizeable part of the GDP. After civil rights and start of the labor movement, the slave labor was still needed and replaced by illegal immigrants.
Now all the right wing talk show blow-hards know that flow of illegals is not going to end. All they are opposing is granting of privileges. That way the slavery can be established permanently.
The flow of legal immigration on the other hand is consuming white collar jobs that is bread and butter of middle class America - a reason some of you are up in arms.
But if it is such an issue, why is it not having an effect on politics. If there is mass dissension, politicians ought to listen. But the fact remains that there is not.
No of Americans who have kept their jobs or otherwise benefitted from the expansion due to the flow of legal immigrant labor is much more than those that have lost out. Unemployment numbers prove that. Those who complain are just sore losers who cannot take advantage of opportunities offered.
So there you have it.
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Babs 08/31/2007 12:25:00 AM
Between 2000 and now, hundreds of thousands, maybe over a million, guestworkers came here on H-1Bs (and other work visas).Our government doesn't even know for sure. During those same years, hundreds of thousands of us were laid off. America was a world leader in technology, engineering, innovation, science and business for decades before any significant number of these 'immigrants' were brought in. Even if there had been a shortage, the layoffs of the dot com bust would have freed up ample native talent. The H-1B is step one in the process of sending whole fields of work overseas by providing on the job training to foreign workers. The H-1B is how our personal and financial data gets into the hands of nations who don't like or respect us as much as we'd like to think. Studies and government data show that most H-1Bs are brought in at low or even entry level. They are not the rare and esoteric skill sets we were led to believe, but are ordinary foreign workers replacing our rank and file American workers, which was contrary to the intent of the visa program. The sole purpose of the program was to temporarily fill spot labor shortages until the local labor pool could step in. If someone's H-1B is in its 7th year, the government needs to investigate why no American has been found or trained in all that time. The sad truth is that we never needed all these foreign workers, and now they are clamoring for green cards. If you thought America was crowded at 300 million, wait till you see it at 500 million. You probably will, and soon, unless we as a nation get immigration down to a sensible level.
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anukcs 08/30/2007 10:19:00 PM
I totally agree that skilled immigrant system(LEGAL!!) is broken and need to be fixed asap! otherwise it will be sure that USA will be big loser since outsourcing will be multipled to wherever these skilled immigrants go!! Awake and join to Immigration Voice to fix this issue to help yourself. I would urge even citizens to join to help themselves. Think long term!!!
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gcisadawg 08/30/2007 9:34:00 PM
Legal immigration system is clearly broken and it needs to be fixed.
It can be fixed by either throwing all the legals out OR by streamlining the process so that legals have a fair shot at fulfilling the American dream. The opportunity to get creative, innovate, own a home and start a family. Without a permanent residency for legals, these things would be extremely difficult. They can do some of the things I mentioned but on a very slippery foundation!
Protectionists, nativists, conservationists etc wuld love to throw the immigrants and the foreign companies/products out. The first step would be to stop buying all those cheap electronics made in third world countries and to do Janitorial jobs in public locations/office buildings. And not to forget all those cheap clothing and furniture!
And start paying what the rest of the world pays for the gas!
Globalization is here to stay! We cant avoid movement of goods, services and people!
The operative word is either adapt or perish!
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H1B Worker 08/30/2007 9:34:00 PM
America trusts in talent NOT in religion/race or anything.
See the % of employees in NASA, MIT, Stanford, Microsoft, Intel, Sun, Oracle and all tech companies, there are significant number of immigrants working on most
complex projects where there is skill and labor shortage.
You should respect the immigrants who are working legally and abiding by the law. You SHOULD respect American LAW if u r an American.
Do you think America can survive throwing all techies out of the country?
If u say "yes", close all your doors to America and American embassies in all countries, let Americans alone get the jobs in America. This is the BEST solution. I suggest u speak to ur senators/congress persons to do this.
I strongly support Americans should be first in America, they should technically compete with immigrants and get the jobs. Come on guys, wake up!!, we are in globalization trend.
I don't know why American politicians/law makers are in love with 12 million illegals (who don't pay taxes), they are always in hurry to get them green cards and citizenship. Yeah, I know why, without these illegals rest rooms in America will not be clean.
By the way I'm a senior networking programemr working in LA with 6 digit salary per annum. I'm not a cheap labor. There are many American friends and collegues in my company who are paid less than my salary based on the performance.
~ H1B Worker
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Lisa 08/30/2007 9:30:00 PM
To all those cry babies who think they aren't getting jobs because of immigration :
Please analyze your skills before you blame others ( companies and immigration).
Every company prefers an American citizen over an immigrant because of the costs involved in immigration.Do not expect to get a job just because you have a degree..( talent and skill is a must. company needs to make profits too apart from providing employment.
Its not easy to find a job if you are not a citizen or a permanent resident.
Companies are opened all over the world in order to get skilled people. Isn't it good to have them in our own country rather than in foreign countries.
Isn't it helpful for our economy?
Well if you want no competition then "God help US economy"
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alex77 08/30/2007 9:26:00 PM
Anonpseudonym's comments shows insecurity. People like them want better jobs and fat salaries just becuase they happened to born in this land of opportunity. Immigrants have bulilt America and will continue to do so. Anonpseudonym's species are doomed to become extinct as parasites don't survive in a competitive environment!
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Megha 08/30/2007 9:13:00 PM
I have been waiting for the green card for the past 7 years myself.
I finished my masters in electrical engineering and i am working for an American company and i am paid the same as my American colleague. I dont know from where some people get the notion that Legal Immigrant workers are paid less than a citizen.
I am very frustrated with the broken immigration system. There is a serious backlog in processing the applications.The system does not follow the "First In First Out" .
When we contribute and follow the laws I do not understand why we are discriminated.Its a total discrimination against countries like China, India ...
I understand that the visa lottery was introduced for the diversity. Why to introduce the country cap limit on employment based immigration?
Its really frustrating to see some people getting green card in less that 8 months and others waiting for years to get the Green card.
With out Green card life in America is tough. You cant start a business , you cant get a a drivers license if your application is pending and the list goes on...
After being in the country for so long and getting used to the life here , i really don't want to go back. I like it here, but the green card conditon is putting me in a dilemma.
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adressing anonpsuedonym 08/30/2007 9:08:00 PM
anonpsuedonym:
your circular argument is evry interesting. you support the innigrant workers having inrestricted status so they are not "abused" that's great. it's good logic too.
but you are asking this person to leave? all she is asking for- and the kauffman foundation- and many others is that the current H1B's not be made to wait a decade for Green Cards. i don't see the article asking for more H1b visas anywhere. so if the Green Card did not take 10 years, the H1B workers would quickly graduate to the status you prefer thus levelling the field in your eyes. yet you oppose that. what do you want anyway? temporary sttaus or permanent (or none which is all you want). the heydays of the tech boom are not coming back. neither are those salaries. and unemployment is at historical lows- even in the tech sector. noto good enough? Programmers Guild etc claim there are 4 million unemployed programmers (12 million, 33%), wow- every unemployed person in the US is a programmer- what a fantasy!!!!!!
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Sobers 08/30/2007 7:53:00 PM
Ms Feldmen,
Thanks for writing about the plight of immigrants playing by the rules.
Nativists and protectionists will have a reason to complain unless everyone immigrant (legal or not) goes back to their countries of birth. Maybe they should've asked their grandparents to go back too.
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harish 08/30/2007 7:28:00 PM
Chuck America and return to Delhi as soon as possible!no need to beg for green cards
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sw33t 08/30/2007 7:05:00 PM
Its funny how people don't understand that its the same company where they have invested their 401(k)/IRA that is trying to compete globally by cutting jobs and outsourcing or offshoring work because it increases revenue margins, making your investment grow faster.
As a CEO, what would you do? As a consumer what do you buy? Products made in America or would you rather go to Wall-of-China-Mart? This is reality. There is a reason why you can't find a job and foreign nationals can.. Believe me, it is not your skill that makes a difference. Ask any manager who has ever hired a foreign national. They want someone who is not from this society and appreciate the selfless commitment to meet common goals and deadlines. They are willing to travel and or relocate. They don't ask for a raise or a promotion (because the system ties your job title with your permanent residency process) but still work 60 hours a week. Gullible Highly skilled foreign professionals who don't know the system get exploited by American companies for years together.
If you want a job, don't let that get in your way of thinking rationally. Bottom line, If you want oil, don't start a war in the middle east killing 100s and thousands of innocent people to forward your agenda. Funny how they portray diamonds from Sierra Leone as Blood Diamonds but Oil from Iraq is still Black Gold.
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h1bmythslayer 08/30/2007 7:04:00 PM
RE: "When Microsoft or Intel hires a visa holder inside the US, the salary is no different than what would be paid out to an American"
Bull$#!T � If you really believe that then I wholeheartedly recommend you staying away from used car salesmen because you are one gullible person!
Foreigners are overwhelmingly here in the U.S. because they provide cheaper labor and subservience. American jobs are predominatly sent to India, China, et cetera because the settings offer significant cost savings. Ten cents on the dollar is what they offer. End of story.
It is called �forum shopping� and as soon as one nation becomes too expensive, operations are shifted elsewhere. Case in point, Mexico was booming until the political climate favored China entering into the picture with lower wages. India will see jobs moved to the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Colombo, Eastern Europe�
As far as intellectual capital, the U.S. has the best universities bar none. The IITs in India are a joke as are college degrees from the nation�s other universities. Look for what the IITs have published in academic journals and you will easily discover that that they are followers, not leaders.
What surprises me is those of you who are so willing to believe the myths and hype. The reality is that foreign and/or immigrant labor is cheap, compliant labor.
Katherine Boo offers a great piece of writing that explains this in better detail.
See �The Best Job in Town� (The New Yorker, July 4, 2004)
http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2004/the_best_job_in_town
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RDP 08/30/2007 6:46:00 PM
Even if legal immigrants aren't paid less, they drive down the wages. Any time there's more competition for jobs, there will be downward pressure on wages.
I have a Master of Business Administration and a Master of Science in Marketing just like the husband in the story. Clearly, I'm having to compete with him for positions, and anytime there's more than one person available, it does create the potential for downward pressure on wages (and since I've been trying for some time since receiving my last degree to obtain a job in my field, one could maintain that the husband hurts me and my family since he's apparently taking a job that I am apparently just as qualified to do).
However, I support a more open immigration policy because I do believe it helps the country as a whole even if it may hurt me individually from time to time.
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Shiv 08/30/2007 6:21:00 PM
It is so untrue that visa holders get paid less. Besides, if it were true, then the American employer who is paying them less is at fault just as much as American employers like Ford or GM who open up an assembly plant in Mexico and ship jobs out of the country to make more bucks. In fact, is there any employer of repute who is not relying on cheaper offshore labor in some way?
When Microsoft or Intel hires a visa holder inside the US, the salary is no different than what would be paid out to an American. Americans who whine about jobs being taken up by visa holders are usually the incompetent ones refusing to accept their own shortcomings and trying to pin the blame on someone else.
Competent Americans are doing just fine in the current market and do not feel threatened by foreigners living inside the US. They are more concerned with offshoring - which takes American jobs outside the country; a far more serious problem.
The irony of it all is the American who would love to kick out foreigners is a descendant of someone who came over the ocean a few generations ago and was a foreigner himself. If this ancestor had received similar treatment, our complaining American would not be here to complain today!
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kum 08/30/2007 6:21:00 PM
Go to any post graduate class...80-90% of the class is foreign born. America is killing itself...cost of education is so high that students can hardly afford it. They prefer to flip burgers than going to college and getting a degree. Then you have these anti-immigrant group (Lou Dobbs & company) who claims that America has enough engineers, doctors etc.. and there is no need to increase visa. Greedy corporate America says..OK if you do not get me bring foreigh born engineers, I will happily send those jobs overseas. Look at India, China and Brazil, they way they are stealing American jobs, in 10 years there will hardly be any jobs here. I am an immigrant myself and I know if America does not let people come in...more and more jobs will go out. JOBS DO NOT NEED VISA TO GO TO ANY COUNTRY.
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Anonpseudonym 08/30/2007 6:04:00 PM
RE: "Every American citizen who cries foul when they hear about legal immigrants"
My cry of foul is not with immigrants per se. The foul is that the system is rigged so that when a company hires an H-1B or L-1 holder, the immigrant is beholden to his/her corporate sponsor and effectually becomes an indentured servant, works extended hours, and is paid below prevailing market wages. This results in a savings for employers because they prefer to pay lower wages, they know the immigrant workers will not complain for fear of losing their sponsorship, and since the visa holders cannot easily change jobs there is very low turnover.
As far as looking for Americans beforehand, the reality is that companies do not want to hire Amercians and creatively take proactive stances to disqualify us. For an example of how this is accomplished I invite you to go to http://www.youtube.com/programmersguild to watch �immigration attorneys from Cohen & Grigsby explaining how they assist employers in running classified ads with the goal of NOT finding any qualified applicants, and the steps they go through to disqualify even the most qualified Americans in order to secure green cards for H-1b workers. See what Bush and Congress really mean by a "shortage of skilled U.S. workers. Microsoft, Oracle, Hewlett-Packard, and thousands of other companies are running fake ads in Sunday newspapers across the country each week.�
If people want a fair system, I say let the market freely govern itself WITHOUT restrictions. Let the immigrant workers enter America with unrestricted visas that are not tied to a corporate sponsor so that they can truly be free and mobile. This will never be done though because it would result in having to pay market wages and treating them fairly.
As I stated above, read the research by Professor Matloff. An ad hominem stance against me is flawed and ignores the issue.
We do not have a labor shortage, what we do have is yet another example of corporate welfare and class warfare.
Go Edwards in 08!
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legalimmi 08/30/2007 6:03:00 PM
well once all the high skilled immigrants go back to their home countries then all jobs will move to either canada or china or india. you know why because we can count high skilled americans on our fingers. i bet the guy who posted the comment here is also not so computer skilled.
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bobzibub 08/30/2007 6:02:00 PM
A degree in management information sciences and you can't get a job programming?
Well I'm lucky enough to have a degree in computer science yet I can't get a job as a lawyer.
Perhaps you should focus your job search?
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Su 08/30/2007 6:02:00 PM
America is where it is today because of tremendous contributions made by people immigrated from all over the world. Reverse brain drain may have huge impact on America's numero uno position in the world. Earlier law makers realize this better it will be for this country.
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Andy 08/30/2007 5:55:00 PM
America needs legal immigrants. The current Immigration System for LEGALS is broken. I feel bad for this girl and thousands of others who suffer because of a poorly designed and conceived system.
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ALaCarte 08/30/2007 5:30:00 PM
Niloufer,
Congratulations on your courage to stand up for the beliefs. Do not be disheartened by comments from people blind or ignorant to reality. Reality will dawn sooner or later and Truth shall prevail.
A well wisher
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texanmom 08/30/2007 5:26:00 PM
America is considered to be the land of immigrants. Every American citizen who cries foul when they hear about legal immigrants have at least 1 immigrant member in their family tree. So lets get real!
I take tremendous pride in the fact that America recognizes merit, not race/ religion or language. So all of you who complain about H1's/ L1's and throw the problem acorss the fence...take a look and mirror and evaluate your skills. maybe they do not meet the demands of the market...
And as far as immigration goes- the system is broken. PERIOD. And its high time somebody raised their voices to wake up the senators on the Hill. Go IV. GO!
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Anonpseudonym 08/30/2007 2:55:00 PM
Boo, hoo, hoo. NOT!
She should return to India.
America in general and Texas in particular has an ample supply of information technology folks. H1-B and L-1 visa holders displace native-born American workers so I feel NO sympathy for her at all. I invite this paper to instead write about Americans who played by the rules, did the right things, studied management information systems and who then found they cannot get jobs in programming because they have been replaced by the cheaper labor of Indians on visas, now that would be an honest piece of reporting. She and the companies who hire visa holders are the real problems.
She should return to India today.
Signed,
An American techie working outside of the field he trained for
I invite you to read "Debunking the Myth of a Desperate Software Labor Shortage"
by Norm Matloff for the real facts surrounding this issue
See http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html