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Indie Women Unite at GoGirls Fest

Remember Cinder Calhoun?

A feminist comedienne, she was the opening act for the Lilith Fair in the '90s. She was fond of corduroys and vests. Her favorite joke was the "old classic" about the shaman stuck in a menstrual pit. She was fond of the ladies too, except for a brief, intense crush on Garth Brooks, during which time, she said, "Sappho high-tailed it back to Frisco." She had an extremely deep voice, somehow reedy and bass-heavy at the same time, a rolling, sonorous monotone.

She also, thankfully, was a made-up character. Saturday Night Live's Ana Gasteyer invented her as a guest character on "Weekend Update," and it was one of the best satires I've ever seen.

I couldn't help but think of Cinder Calhoun when I spoke on the phone with Madelyn Sklar, founder of GoGirlsMusic.com, "the oldest and largest online community of indie women musicians," and the GoGirls music festivals. Sklar's voice sounds exactly like Cinder Calhoun's, which is funny, considering the pro-female bent of GoGirls.

Sklar, who's from Houston, began GoGirls "out of frustration of going to the guitar shop and being ignored," she says. "I thought, well, it'd be cool to talk to other musicians and see if they're going through the same experiences."

They were. So Sklar started the Web site in 1996, when the full potential of the Internet as a networking tool had yet to be tapped, as a way to connect with other female musicians, ranging "from piano to punk." At first she thought it would only be a little hobby—she was learning Web design as a career at the time—but soon felt her calling was expanding GoGirls. Sklar has built a whole empowering empire around the site, including annual GoGirls music festivals that take place in different cities.

The Dallas version of the GoGirls fest takes place at Opening Bell and features a number of female (obviously) performers from Dallas and other cities: Our own folkie Leah Marr, who's only 15, and R&B goddess Rhonda Nicole are two of the featured acts, for instance, and a former local now living in Los Angeles, Annette Conlon (her hubby drums for Rawly Punt), put together the lineup. Conlon has worked with GoGirls almost since its inception.

Sklar is also a "music business coach." I wasn't aware those existed. So, of course, in my head I made fun of it. It's not the most rock 'n' roll thing I've ever heard, unless one of her coaching tips for band success is, "One of you needs to die in a pool of your own vomit."

After watching a YouTube video of one of Sklar's seminars, I don't think that's one of her strategies. She sticks more to the "Believe in yourself" and "Set your goals high," kind of stuff, which, when I was interviewing her on the phone, for some reason made me feel kind of like Steve Blow.

It could be the earnestness, or maybe the fact that the term "coach" should only be applied to people with whistles around their necks, that gave me that Blowian sensation. Said sensation is marked by a certain docile character, rendering the empowerment of female musicians duller than a Vincent Gallo movie. Fuck earnestness, screw moderation—let's get all riot grrl, ladies! I want to see Kathleen Hanna covered in pig's blood a la Carrie, jumping over the counter at the music store and bashing the salesman in the face with a Les Paul. I want to see Joan Jett surrounded by dozens of male groupies, helping her don her bondage gear so that she can whip their asses. I want to see the Gossip's Beth Ditto stomping on someone's head, her fat jiggling gloriously, yelling "Riots, not diets!"

Instead, the whole thing feels as tame as a housecat. Getting treated like a nobody by dick-y music dudes is such an obvious metaphor. An appropriate reaction to shitty boy behavior like that requires more than grabbing the closest acoustic guitar and writing a real intense song about it. It requires more than a Web site, though that helps. Call me cynical, but it requires a more sinister environment than Opening Bell. I feel like a real jerk calling out Sklar and Conlon—their hearts are in the right place, and the show benefits Operation Kindness. Both Sklar and Conlon seem, from my conversations with them, like really nice people. Maybe that's the problem.

 
  • ConcernedParent 11/15/2007 5:52:00 AM

    God damn, you try, try, try, so, so, so hard. Please resign.

  • Brenda Lowry 10/27/2007 7:33:00 PM

    "Sklar has built a whole empowering empire around the site, including annual GoGirls music festivals that take place in different cities."--J. Widner She has, indeed, and there are thousands who are so very glad she has. GoGirls obviously does a lot of good for many people. "Both Sklar and Conlon seem, from my conversations with them, like really nice people. Maybe that's the problem." They are. And it is a sad, sad commentary on our society when "nice" becomes a problem. Anger does require a lot of energy. I, for one, am glad that people like Madalyn and Annette and fellow GoGirls choose to channel their energy in a way that is constructive.

  • Marie Kelton 10/22/2007 8:56:00 PM

    Re: NARAS Correction NARAS is the National Academy of Recording Arts and Science my apologies -

  • Marie Kelton 10/22/2007 8:26:00 PM

    Madame or Sir: Re: Indie Women Unite at GoGirls Fest By Jonanna Widner Published: October 11, 2007 As a professional in the music industry, a member of ASCAP and the National Association of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS -Grammy), I found the subject editorial in exceptionally poor taste, and ill-informed. Beside being libelous, (and poorly written) it indicates an extreme lack of understanding of the music business, professional musicians, singers and songwriters, and the value of networking. GoGirls is a networking organization made up of serious musicians and individuals active in the music business. As such, I found this article, tactless, tasteless, and without merit. It is simply, beneath contempt, and worth no further comment. I suggest that Ms. Widner, investigate fully, prior to putting pen to paper - she treads on libelous ground. This is solely my personal opinion, and does not reflect those of either ASCAP or NARAS.

  • Marie Kelton 10/22/2007 8:25:00 PM

    Madame or Sir: Re: Indie Women Unite at GoGirls Fest By Jonanna Widner Published: October 11, 2007 As a professional in the music industry, a member of ASCAP and the National Association of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS -Grammy), I found the subject editorial in exceptionally poor taste, and ill-informed. Beside being libelous, (and poorly written) it indicates an extreme lack of understanding of the music business, professional musicians, singers and songwriters, and the value of networking. GoGirls is a networking organization made up of serious musicians and individuals active in the music business. As such, I found this article, tactless, tasteless, and without merit. It is simply, beneath contempt, and worth no further comment. I suggest that Ms. Widner, investigate fully, prior to putting pen to paper - she treads on libelous ground. This is solely my personal opinion, and does not reflect those of either ASCAP or NARAS.

  • Lisa 10/22/2007 7:39:00 PM

    Dear Editor, I am going to be brief because I echo a lot of the comments that have been posted. I wanted to express my outrage at the kind of unprofessional journalism that the Observer seems to be sanctioning. In particular, the following article, JONANNA WIDNER: INDIE WOMEN UNITE AT GOGIRLS MUSIC FEST, has been raising such an outcry in the Gogirls community and beyond that some of us are moved to action and thought you should be alerted directly (see comments related to this article). I for one hope that other musicians are not treated in such a manner by the Observer and that journalists understand the power they have and the impacts they can have through their writing. At the very least, this writer owes Gogirls and Madalyn Sklar a deep apology.

  • leeloo 10/20/2007 9:11:00 PM

    And yes, I called her "Johanna". I like that name better. Guess that makes me a candidate for writing at the Observer.

  • leeloo 10/20/2007 9:03:00 PM

    If Johanna had any previous experience with the organization in question, had perhaps attended one or their events, had any dealings with its members other than the two interviews with Madalyn and Annette, and then criticized them based on that in a humorous way, then yes, this article might be considered funny, well funny to anyone that likes their humor with a side of mean-spiritedness. Instead, she pretended to have a genuine interest in promoting the charity event, something that would normally be a boon to any organization trying to have a successful benefit. Imagine how it would feel if the local weekly rag that routinely ignores events such as these finally decided it would. As any band in Dallas that's attempted to get the Observer to promote a show knows, having them agree to cover it would be considered an major accomplishment right? Now imagine how blindsided you would feel to read something that in no way resembled the article you expected. An article that takes cheap shots at the organization's founder, misspells her name, mixes the few facts that are actually included, and in so doing paints the event and the organization with a stereotype that isn't remotely true. The average person might well see the name "GoGirls" and think it's a bunch of soft, man-eshewing women who sing bad folk songs wearing Birkenstocks with no makeup. The truth is there are all types of extremely talented bands from hard rock to neo-soul and beyond, many of whom have male band members, and several of which are the aggressive, kickass rockers Johanna referenced. It's a NETWORKING organization, doofus. And while its genesis was created out of the treatment received from the male dominated industry, it doesn't continue to exist as a reaction to anything. It is an independent, proactive entity that helps female-fronted bands promote and connect. Male bands have something similar... it's called the rest of the music industry. A real journalist would have bothered to find that out before criticizing. A real journalist wouldn't have considered glancing at the GoGirls web site and watching Madalyn's YouTube vids as adequate research for this article. And a good writer doesn't have to resort to being mean to be witty. If the sheer volume of responses to this article proves anything, it's that the members of this organization do not shy away from standing up to shitty behavior.

  • Alexa Weber Morales 10/20/2007 7:19:00 PM

    Hey bulimic "Sarah," if I ever meet you I'll kick your ass. Although I'm not really sure you are a girl. But hey, either way, I would really, really love to beat the crap out of you, ultimate fighting-style. Sounds like you're doing great in the music biz. Have you tried heroin? I recommend you get into that ASAP--it'll help your songwriting a lot and give you that authenticity you desperately crave.

  • Annnette Conlon 10/20/2007 9:11:00 AM

    I don�t think Madalyn or I would ever consider the event or ourselves beyond reproach. Perhaps I might expect it to actually OCCUR before being �reviewed�. Requesting an interview to promote an upcoming benefit to raise money for a local animal shelter and turning the article into a personal forum to lambaste the founder of the organization (that you admittedly don�t get) that is running the benefit is a stretch in journalistic credibility but if you think that is funny #115 then well go for it. Laughter is good for the soul. As for our individual motivations� Madalyn chose to start GoGirlsMusic after the way she was treated in a guitar store. Giving women a forum to network, mentor, learn and grow is powerful and I�m proud to be a member of GoGirlsMusic. I started NetteRadio because of a personal experience with a completely crass male A&R, who detested all female fronted music. This motivated me to do something for women in music as opposed to just being 'pissed off about it'. Offering women musicians a forum to play their music is as empowering as the opportunity for these artists who now have the chance to hear their music aired, some for the first time. I play all genres, from artists across the globe, including Dallas, and I find the music spectacular. Annette Conlon GoGirlsMusicFest NetteRadio.com

  • Aaron Thedford 10/20/2007 5:55:00 AM

    Why can't you have a sense of humor about the article? It was funny. Just because the festival will benefit a good cause doesn't mean it is beyond reproach. By the way, when I say good cause I am referring to animal shelter not the poor girls who shared traumatic experiences at the guitar shop. Whenever girls with guitars get slapped together on a bill it turns into soul searching event and words like "empowerment" pop up. You are female, you are not retarded. If you want to empower yourself, go back to your bedroom and write some decent music.

  • Don Berryman 10/19/2007 5:51:00 AM

    Sometimes journalists just don�t have the mind set to write anything of note. Brain cramps and bad attitudes happen to all of us on occasion. The professional ones know this and put their laptop down and go off somewhere and kick somebody�s cat. It�s unfortunate that Ms. Widner has not yet learned this. Don B.

  • Annette Warner - Editor, GoGir 10/18/2007 11:22:00 AM

    "Personally, anything called "GoGirl" makes me vomit in my mouth." Hmm, that's the second time the word vomit was used in relation to this article, and whadya know - the first time was actually IN the article. 'Cept their names aren't the same...but wait... :) I love when that happens. Ya know - people forget their own syntax sometimes.

  • Chuck Snow 10/18/2007 11:15:00 AM

    I fail to understand where two people who obviously have their hearts in the right place should be criticized for holding an event that benefits such a worthy cause? Oh wait, I've forgotten that journalism is no longer about impartial reporting, it's about "The Writer As Celebrity" in which the subjects of the story are ridiculedby the writer in order to show how clever and insightful she/he is.... It amazes me that people like you are constantly given a public voice by newspapers when at best, your writing skills would be more useful in CraigsList advertising for blowjobs in the "personals" section.... Yeah, and even then that might be too much of a stretch for you- Chuck Snow in Colorado

  • upchuck 10/18/2007 5:43:00 AM

    if by come together you mean sitting around a campfire singing, then no, but if you mean starting a revolution and setting fire to your gear and screaming at the top of your lungs then i'd have to agree. good rocknroll was about having something to say and saying it fucking loud. had nothing to do with being sinister...was about living out loud and speaking up. just try to do that now and you'll get arrested for treason or some shit. oh wait, this was supposed to be about the article, but I forgot what it said now. oh well, it was crap anyway.

  • muffin man fan 10/18/2007 4:57:00 AM

    "...Rock started as a means to bring people together that wanted to change the evils committed by mainstream society..." Ha ha, thanks for a good laugh. Yeah, "Rocket 88" really changed the evils committed by mainstream girls who wouldn't let Ike blow his horn. Don't get me wrong, I thought her article (and pretty much everything else she's written) was awful, but don't rewrite history to support your point.

  • Madalyn Sklar 10/18/2007 4:38:00 AM

    Wow, Sarah thinks she has GoGirls pegged! She said, "But standing around, holding hands, making lanyards and cooing about our shared vaginal experiences while chanting 'Go Girl!'" What a joke! Um Sarah, sorry to burst your bubble dear but that remark in no way describes our organization. Uh we have members who are riott grrls. I'm a rocker chick. We work with ALL genres. Next time get your facts straight. You and Widner certainly don't get it. Hmm, makes me wonder if you are the same person.

  • Lisa 10/18/2007 2:22:00 AM

    ...and for the record, Rock did not start out as sinister or dark. (Woodstock, hello?) It was co-opted later by poser boys who hid behind the image to hide their lack of talent. Quite the contrary, Rock started as a means to bring people together that wanted to change the evils committed by mainstream society. If riot grrls think emulating the posers is making a statement, then they don't really have a clue what Rock is.

  • Lisa 10/18/2007 1:43:00 AM

    Sarah's comment above makes about as much sense as the original article. And although, I don't necessarily agree with all the comments posted, the fact remains that the stated purpose for the interviews that led to this article was to get information about the upcoming event (you know, the charity event for Operation Kindness), not to ignore the relevant details of that event and use the subjects of the interview as a springboard to critique whether organizations like GoGirls should exist. If Jonanna wanted to write an op-ed article about the validity of the organization, then why not say so upfront instead of being duplicitous and pretending she would announce the event?

  • Lurker 10/17/2007 10:14:00 PM

    Wow Jonanna has a friend. I guess raising money for homeless kittens and puppies is a bullshit cause. The comments are definitely more interesting than the article.

  • Sarah 10/17/2007 9:39:00 PM

    The wad of panties amassed by the oversensitive commenters on this article should be submitted for consideration into the Guinness book of records. Widner's a music critic. If she thinks something sucks, rocks, sounds lame or kicks ass, she says so. You can't call her out for lacking journalistic integrity (something 99% of these commenters do) unless you see her shilling for some bullshit cause/artist/PR nightmare she doesn't believe in. That's where the bad journalism would come in. Instead, she's being honest. Welcome to Writing About Music 101. Personally, anything called "GoGirl" makes me vomit in my mouth. Are we really going to rock the female music revolution by adopting a trite, overused, oft-mocked phrase preferred by middle-aged housewives who TiVo Oprah? Are we going to change the pop landscape by repeating soft-balled mantras like "believe in yourself?" Fuck no, man. Us female musicians are going to go out there and kick some fucking ass. Can you do that with an acoustic guitar and earnest songwriting? Absolutely. Sarah Jaffe (not me, for those of you paying attention to my user name) and a couple of other respectable girls in this city do. But standing around, holding hands, making lanyards and cooing about our shared vaginal experiences while chanting "Go Girl!" ... that's not going to get respect from anyone but the soft-dicked sandal-wearing hippie guys who already cream all over these flower girls. Rock and roll needs riot grrls. The minds that need changing are the ones that belong to rock and roll jerks who think girls can't shoot whiskey, shred a solo, or beat the hell out of a drum kit. And I think Widner gets that.

  • cb 10/17/2007 3:16:00 AM

    besides being a lame comedienne, jonanna widner is also a lame writer - as exhibited here. someone earlier here said she made them long for the days of zac crain. he was just as lame - choosing to interview people about one thing and then write about how many rum and cokes he got at the bar at the show. neither jonanna nor zac had anything interesting to say. it's as if they both see themselves as 21st century bret easton ellises. if you want to criticize someone, and be funny, at least stick to the subject and act like you made an attempt. wilonski can do it. michael corcoran in austin is great at it. jonanna and zac are the type of writers who make people stop reading the observer. and that's too bad.

  • Annnette Conlon 10/16/2007 1:53:00 AM

    It�s taken me forever to write my latest comment for a couple of reasons� 1) I was pretty tired when I got back to LA. If you saw me at the Dallas show you know I was running on pure adrenaline (it ran out yesterday!!) and 2) I was very happy and sad at the same time. SO happy with seeing everyone and how amazingly well the show went and yet sad to leave my friends and Dallas behind. So I slept. I�m ready to ROCK the Long Beach and LA GoGirlsMusicFests this week, but wanted to give you a recap: Thank you to the following people without which we would not have had such a wonderful show: Madalyn: for GoGirlsMusic � You ROCK!!! Pascale & staff: for the wonderful venue of Opening Bell Coffee Scott and Ken: for the beautiful sound Scott and Dick: for the amazing video with sound that is forthcoming! Dick: for the photos forthcoming (I�ve seen a few already!! Brilliant!) Barry: for running the front door almost all night!!! THANK YOU! Lisa and Ken: for setting up � otherwise I would STILL be in my Daisy Rock sweats! Operation Kindness: for being our inspiration and the beautiful donations! (and the wonder friendly volunteers!) The Artists: Leah Marr, Jana Pochop, Cynthia Bennett, Julie Pham, Annie Benjamin, Bastet, Ruby Rendrag, Merry and the Mood Swings, Rhonda Nicole for donating their time, their amazing performances and the generous donations they were able to secure to help make the Auction and Raffle so successful and fun! Our Sponsors: Daisy Rock Guitars; Couch Vegan Guitar Straps/Belts; Dave Cool/What is Indie; Vetraceuticals; Chad Dingham of Anderson, Cox & Company the Salon at Stanley Korshak; Special Care Pet Sitting; Kimberly and Susan of the Bandmates; Amber Richardson of Lifestyle Portrait; Kathy Sahagian; Zoey March; Dick Roth; Cotton Patch Caf�CD Source; Merry and the Mood Swings; and Tropical Day Spa for their generous contributions to our Auction and Raffle. (if I missed someone I apologize!) The Auction Participants: for making the auction a success and so much fun -YOU ROCK! The Audience: for giving each artist such a wonderful, supportive ear and raucous applause! YOU ROCK! The event was a great success by all measure. I am thrilled with every second of the night! Did I leave anyone out?? I might have and if so I am terribly sorry. I am overwhelmed by the support and generosity of each and every one of you. I received a wonderful email from Bryan from Operation Kindness today. The only thing I ask of you is that you remember Operation Kindness and GoGirlsMusic as you move forward in your daily lives. And, keep on commenting here.. let the world know how powerful nice people with a vision can be. Annette Conlon NetteRadio.com GoGirlsMusicFest Dallas/Los Angeles/Long Beach www.myspace.com/gogirlsmusicfestdallas www.myspace.com/gogirlsmusicfestla www.myspace.com/gogirlsmusicfestlongbeach

  • Starnes 10/16/2007 1:12:00 AM

    Wow, reading all of these comments shows the wonderful support we all have for each other and would it have been possible without Madalyn? Um, no. Madalyn is one of my best friends and it might be because she's nice. I love Tony Meek's comment the most! Mad DOES have a set and I've seen her use them (I like to watch). She's most likely the strongest person I know. I told her last night that I admired her because she lets no grass grow under her feet. I want that! The poor author of that sad silly story is just a sad little girl crying for any kind of attention she can get so she'll be noticed by her mommy who keeps sleeping with different men whose names all start with Uncle. I'm grumpy today and that article did not help. Madalyn, if nothing else, look around. You've made a difference. This is one of those times when you can turn around and know that before, there was nothing and now there is. Your efforts built a community. I love you, man. NOTHING but BIG love in my heart for you!!!

  • Rachel Sedacca 10/15/2007 7:17:00 PM

    What an ignorant article. Is this the top of the food chain at the Dallas Observer for the music section? Terrible! I am sure that the paper has had much negative feedback on the quality of this article. Hmf!!

  • Madalyn Sklar 10/15/2007 5:23:00 PM

    Thank you EVERYONE for your amazing support!! Here's the deal: As the leader of a large music organization doing great things, I get bashed. I'm used to it. However, for this article I felt duped. This was supposed to be about the BENEFIT. Hello!! It was supposed to be about the performers donating their time and effort to perform at a special event. It was supposed to be about the amazing Annette Conlon who organized the event and did everything all the way from L.A.! Why was that information left out of the article. Yes, I was appalled to read this article online. However, I was more appalled to see the printed article once I arrived in Dallas. The photo of Beth Ditto, which has NOTHING to do with our organization or event, took up almost half the page. A smarter reporter would have used a photo of one of the bands performing at the event (which Jonanna asked for and obviously decided against). Jonanna, it's sad that you took my trust and decided to do what you felt you had to do. I'm amazed at how many people who know you and apparently don't like you are emailing me to say what an ass you are and not surprised you did this. By the way, we had a great show that was highly successful. Everyone there had a great time and a good laugh at how unprofessional Jonanna is. We raised money for a great cause, Operation Kindness. Go check them out at http://www.operationkindness.org. We have many more GoGirlsMusicFest shows. Please check them out at http://www.gogirlsmusicfest.com. And as I say when things like this happen... NEXT!!!

  • Slim 10/15/2007 11:36:00 AM

    Terribly sorry, to all of you commentors. You see what we as local weekly rag paper readers have to contend with week after week. Everyone around here is well aware that Jonanna is a hack of the worst sort. Not only bad writing when she does write, but she's also the music editor, who gets to say what will be printed about the local music scene. It's always garbage and always poorly written. Not quite sure why she still has a job. Please, if you still have the gumption, pass along your annoyance concerning this piece to the paper's owners. Our local voices are apparently not being heard yet, but the outcry about this one article seems worthy of being passed on to the big wigs. Maybe they'll start to listen if everytime Jonanna writes an article, 100 people tell them how fucking terrible it is.

  • Pascale 10/15/2007 5:43:00 AM

    the event was a great success and the musicians were awesome. lots of money was raised for a great organization and everyone had a great time. thanks go girls and those that supported this event on saturday. we look forward to having the go girls music fest again next year at opening bell for the 3rd time. pascale :-)

  • Melineh 10/14/2007 11:23:00 PM

    Wow. Cynically bashing hard-working, well-respected women... you make it seem so easy. GoGirls is a powerful, inspiring organization that provides performance and networking opportunities to all of us who want to take advantage of it. It's been an extremely valuable aid to me, as well as a great forum for meeting phenomenal musicians. You created some great mental pictures with the head-stomping and guitar-bashing; however, one organization cannot be everything to everyone. I like playing my guitar, not breaking it. "...Calling out Sklar and Conlon" was an absolutely pointless and self-indulgent excercise that benefitted no one. Speaking of benefit, would any reader know one single thing about Operation Kindness after reading your article? Nope. But, they sure would get an awesome history lesson about a comedienne that sort of sounds like Madalyn. Melineh Kurdian playing 10-20-07 @ Los Angeles GoGirls Music Fest... Rock out.

  • Lisa 10/14/2007 9:54:00 PM

    This turned out to be a really NICE event, full of NICE people having a great time for a very worthy cause. Nice is the new sinister. Deal with it.

  • Alexa Weber Morales 10/14/2007 5:49:00 PM

    Congrats to the writer--you are the Ann Coulter/Clarence Thomas/Phyllis Schlafly of music journalism. I sincerely hope Madalyn took this hit so the rest of us don't have to--I would be devastated to read a shallow, pointless review like this about myself.

  • Lani Ford 10/14/2007 1:58:00 PM

    As a woman, a native Texan, and a rocker chick who eats boys for breakfast, I am totally appalled, embarrassed and horrified by your terrible article that wasn't in any way cool, funny, or informative. I had many of my friends and family come to the GoGirls show last night and can't wait to take part in GoGirlsFest, NYC November 11! I'd like to see this "writer" come up here and get knocked down a few pegs. Kudos to Tony Meeks for nailing it on the head! Lani Ford/STARK

  • Celeste Starchild 10/14/2007 5:10:00 AM

    I'm not sure GoGirls has anything to do with shitty boy behavior. Many industries have women's professional groups - Women's Council of Realtors is an example. Many industries also have professional coaches. The way I see it is that GoGirls is just another example of a professional network. If you think musical success is about dying in vomit and smashing people with guitars, you might actually learn something if you looked deeper into GoGirls - it offers a wealth of information and support to independent artists, albeit female ones. One question - Why are you so bitter? Was it your mother? A trauma from childhood? I know a good coach who might be able to help you with that (whistle optional). ~ Celeste

  • Mary Hestand 10/14/2007 2:45:00 AM

    One negative article seems to have brought on a firestorm of positive comments (91 at last count) from the GoGirls network and the public at large. Obviously, GoGirls is a stong and supportive group of NICE women. I'm proud to be a part of it - see you at the show! Mary Hestand, lead singer Merry & the Mood Swings & GoGirls Member

  • Julia Schloss 10/13/2007 8:54:00 PM

    Okay, I am calling you cynical. But I also know the Dallas music scene is sadly over run by insecure boyz who haven't found their Mommy Replacement Kit yet. And isn't it sad that we want to be treated negatively? That we expect some level of abuse from our entertainment or we don't feel as if we have really lived? Seems that is the too common pattern of Life for the majority these days. If you are not in some cycle of drama trauma you just ain't livin large. So get dressed up in your best black everything, put on your mascara so it will run sooner than later, make sure your boobs will not budge inside your too tight t shirt and that your jeans ride way too low and push up that little roll around the top called a muffin and pay astronomical cover charges to dirty nasty clubs that stink like full ashtrays and beer carpet and prepare to get lucky! Some boy band is going to play hard for you and sound like crap cuz their ego's are in control of their sound equipment, but yer gonna love em cuz .... well, just cuz. They look like yer sposta and they sound like all the rest and they ignore you just right from your spot next to the stage that has rat turds on it by the stained torn curtain. Mmmm...yeah, Dallas music. But you go ahead and gripe about how these tremendously talented, hard workin, constantly booked, powerful, legitimate musician, female performers didn't quite cut yer mustard. If it makes ya feel better there's a boy band down in Deep Ellum tonight. I'm sure they'd love to ignore you just right. It was amazingly nice how you made such a grande' mention regarding The Reason for the event. Operation Kindness Animal Rescue. Hey y'all go check out OperationKindnessDallas.org when yer done venting at this woman who is prolly hiding an acoustic in the closet she has yEt to go pull out to do Anything with, let alone write an intense song. Support Your Local Musicians, even if they are gross boys, and not cruel enough girls.

  • Cathe Jones 10/13/2007 8:21:00 PM

    What fourth grade classroom did this writer come from, and what bet did the paper lose to hire her? Seriously. There isn't any information. This isn't an article about an event, it's a catty, snippy, obnoxious, ILL-informed, and certainly uneducated commentary from someone who hasn't done her homework. Point by point, this exercise is a waste of space in the Observer-- and certainly NOT observant. Mentioning the obscure doesn't make you a historian. It means you've read a wikipedia entry. That's it. Some of us actually have been to the Lillith events, and by the way, KNOW the comedian that was mentioned. The comments were out of context, and misstated. Secondly,Madalyn Sklar has done more for women in independent music than MTV, Lillith Fair, and SXSW put together, so this first comment about a phone call? Childish and chiding at best. The music she's put on stages in Dallas not only has brought your city to the forefront of the indie music scene in recent years, but has certainly raised the bar for performers EVERYWHERE across the United States. There are people who seek Sklar's vision, clarity, her insight, and her mentorship throughout their careers. There is nothing this woman hasn't done for the betterment of live music, including the music event that the cretin author of the article couldn't, apparently, comprehend. Perhaps a little bit of education, maybe in Boston, Seattle, Austin, Los Angeles, and even New Orleans will wake up Ms Widner, and show her that indeed, Sklar's work at the fest was far greater than "a tame housecat"- in fact, this lioness has roared, and even those of us from Las Vegas have taken note. It's too bad that someone who is apparently still using the large crayon box can't figure that out yet. Maybe when she graduates sixth grade, and enters into a more advanced education, she'll figure out that the world is a bigger place than it is in Dr. Seuss's Whoville or wherever it is she lives. Cathe Jones, a musician who absolutely admires the GOGOGirls Festival, and Madalyn Sklar

  • Raymond Steiner 10/13/2007 6:12:00 PM

    Journalism at its worst. It is truly pitiful from the writer to the editor to the publisher.

  • Annette Conlon 10/13/2007 5:33:00 PM

    I should add that I had a lovely dinner last night with the Bandmates and Leeloo. They couldn't be MORE supportive. Kimberly donated an additional piece of art work for the auction. I've posted the press release because it occured to me that everyone reading this should get all of the details on the actual event. After all.. Madalyn will be there and the MASSIVE amount of support you've shown certainly will not go unnoticed. See you tonight at Opening Bell!!!!

  • Annette Conlon 10/13/2007 5:28:00 PM

    PRESS RELEASE: 8th Annual GoGirlsMusicFest - Dallas, Texas Oct 13th Opening Bell Coffee - Benefits Operation Kindness!! About GoGirlsMusicFest Madalyn Sklar, founder of GoGirlsMusic.com, created GoGirlsMusicFest, a series of annual showcase events across the United States. The festival promotes independent women in music while supporting various charities which have included MusiCares, Rock n Roll Camp for Girls, American Liver Foundation, Nicole Brown Charitable Foundation and more. Since 2000, over 85 all-volunteer run shows have taken place throughout the U.S. About the Dallas Showcase This year the Dallas Showcase will benefit Operation Kindness, the largest no-kill shelter in North Texas. Annette Conlon from NetteRadio/Eden Automatic is the Dallas Coordinator (6 years running!) and adopted her cat Sophia from Operation Kindness! For more information about the Dallas Event email ggmf@netteradio.com About GoGirlsMusic.com GoGirls is about promoting and empowering Indie women in music! Since 1996, GoGirlsMusic.com has dedicated itself to bringing together independent women musicians from around the country through networking and events. More info at www.gogirlsmusic.com About Our Show: Doors open at 5:30pm! Information on Dallas Event: What: Dallas GoGirlsMusicFest 2007 Benefiting Operation Kindness Where: Opening Bell Coffee 1409 S. Lamar Suite #012 Dallas, Texas 75215 South Side on Lamar Free Parking on Belleview Street entrance When: Saturday Oct 13 2007 Cost: $5.00 All proceeds benefit Operation Kindess. The first 100 people through the door receive a FREE 2007 GoGirlsMusic Compilation CD! We will also have a slide show from Operation Kindness and a NOISY AUCTION!! Bring your cash & checkbook!!! Confirmed Auction Items Are: Daisy Rock Guitars - Acoustic/Electric Guitar Couch Vegan Guitar Straps What Is Indie Movie - DVD Vetraceuticals $300 Makeover by Chad Dingham of Anderson, Cox & Company at the Salon at Stanley Korshak Special Care Pet Sitting Framed Keith Haring Dog Poster Portrait Sitting by Lifestyle Portrait $25 Copper Earrings by Austin Jeweler Kathy Sahagian $70 2 pcs Jewelry by Austin Jeweler Zoey March Sacred Heart Cathedral, Sligo, Ireland, Limited edition art photograph Cotton Patch Cafe Dinner Coupons Guitar Center Gift Certificate Subway Restaurant Gift Certificate Merry and the Mood Swings Basket Case and more!!! Thank you to our Sponsors: GoGirlsMusic.com NetteRadio Vetraceuticals Green Paw Disc Makers IndieMusicCoach Sonicbids

  • Raymond Steiner 10/13/2007 3:29:00 PM

    Journalism at its worst. Truly pitiful.

  • Sherri Mullen 10/13/2007 2:43:00 PM

    My name is Sherri Mullen and I am a singer/songwriter and music publisher from Harrisburg, PA. I am a member of GoGirls and they are a fantastic organization. I have had the opportunity to get to know Madalyn, and she is one of the most honest, motivated, and caring people in the industry. The networking that she has established between all of these female musicians across the country is amazing...and has helped many of us move our careers to the next level. To make a mockery of this high quality organization is not only very unprofessional, but obviously the rantings of someone who knows absolutely nothing about the music business. Enough said. I will not lower myself to the same level as the author of the article. I guess it's ture that some journalists will do anything to get noticed.

  • Kimberly 10/13/2007 9:25:00 AM

    I think Madalyn is awesome, and I appreciate what she's doing.

  • susan carson 10/13/2007 7:06:00 AM

    I think I will grab the closest acoustic guitar, or (so sorry Jonann) I mean "ax" and write a song about how I feel about your article. I hope now after you have stirred up the powerful network of female musicians, GoGirls will be stronger and the event at Opening Bell will be a Huge turnout thanks to your article. Conlon and Sklar have put in countless time and effort for this event (and former and future GoGirls shows always benefitting amazing causes so why the sinister remarks?? Oh , I get it it's close to Halloween!! By the way my housecat is not tame and my other housecat was so wild no human could touch her for years!! I'm sure this group of female musicians could stomp around in their underwear, spit, smash guitars.. they just choose not too. (I being one of them) I do encourage the Dallas Observer to be on the look out for writers who think it is actually cool to write a supportive piece of journalism about their own community.

  • kimberly 10/13/2007 6:00:00 AM

    look, THEIR doing it & no one else is. yay for conlon & sklar! what have YOU done for me lately? let music be music & people be people. kick back, enjoy a historic area on a beautiful weekend, support the (ONLY well thought out and planned with passion) girls music fest in dallas that I know of. talanted enough to share magical music for anyone COOL enough to listen. you GO GIRLS!

  • Lynn JULIAN 10/13/2007 3:45:00 AM

    This article truly saddened me. I am PROUD to be a GO GIRLS ELITE MEMBER and found this piece insulting and demeaning, as it ridicules our organization without ever having met ANYONE in it! I am a musician, music promoter AND music consultant/coach. Although the fact that this writer is ignorant to the existence of the latter job does NOT surprise me, I am SHOCKED at the unprofessionalism they display in making fun of it publicly via this article. I am also proud to have had the pleasure of meeting MADALYN SKLAR at the MMC 10 MUSIC CONFERENCE. She was truly the life of the festival everyday, having a constant parade of musicians following her around like little ducks to their mother. She is one of the most talented and generous teachers I've ever known. Yet, NOONE reading this article, meant to feature her work, would remember anything about her... except that she reminds the writer of a dumb, unflattering TV character. HOW VERY SAD FOR WOMEN EVERYWHERE TO READ THIS PIECE. GIRL POWER! JULIAN aKa Cookie Cutter Girl, POP SUPERHERO! PopSuperhero.com VelvetChokers.com PowerofPink.com

  • Diane Wells 10/13/2007 3:43:00 AM

    This article, and the multitude of accompanying comments, is why I gave up on the idea of being a professional arts & entertainment journalist in Canada. The half-dozen or so (positive-thinking) published articles I was paid to write were totally unacknowledged by any of its readers and I've had no luck getting published since. Perhaps those articles were thought to be "lame" because I "neglected" to trash the interviewees. If trashing people for pure spite is the road to fame, you have (regretfully, in my mind) succeeded in your goal. Although I've criticized, on rare occasion, people who sing off-key simply because I don't believe in boosting their hopes of a singing career that will never happen, I always balance that negativity with something positive about the music itself. You admit in your article that you felt like a jerk trashing Madalyn and Annette and the GoGirls organization, but you went ahead and did it anyway. Why? Isn't there someone at the Observer who overlooks and approves/rejects your work? If not, there needs to be, and if so, they should be fired, too. I promote women's music of ALL formats (yes, including Joan Jett, who was my original inspiration) on-air and I've probably bent a few CanCon regs promoting American women whose musical acquaintance I met through GoGirls. I just wish there was a Canadian organization that focused on (or at least INCLUDED) female composers and/or performers in our country. Why is it that, in so many cases, a woman's worst enemy is another woman??? Diane Wells

  • Alisa B. 10/13/2007 2:18:00 AM

    P.S. I like The Gossip a lot, but Beth Ditto is a re-invented Debora Iyall from Romeo Void.

  • Lisa 10/13/2007 1:06:00 AM

    What's really sad is I'm pretty sure Ms. Widener is taking great pride in having the most commented on article this week, again missing the important point - that she's well on her way to being the most despised writer in Observer history. Be sure and write the editor in addition to leaving comments here.

  • Meghann Robinson 10/13/2007 12:46:00 AM

    Poor Form. Talentless. Ridiculous. Not even kind of witty! Apologize. Learn from your mistake and take an interest in the community you are writing about. Support the community, even if it is just because it is your job, or go find a passion and hopefully, when you do, silly reporters won't slam you. Thank you, Meghann Robinson

  • Alisa B. 10/13/2007 12:02:00 AM

    Oh, I didn't realise that Beth Ditto was playing the show. Please forgive my misspelling of your name. Alisa B.

  • Alisa 10/12/2007 11:44:00 PM

    Ms. Widener, you say "Sklar is also a "music business coach." I wasn't aware those existed. So, of course, in my head I made fun of it. It's not the most rock 'n' roll thing I've ever heard, unless one of her coaching tips for band success is, "One of you needs to die in a pool of your own vomit." You obviously have no clue about being a musician. No offense to Kathleen Hanna, not all musicians are like or want to be like Bikini Kill. There are a lot of types of musicians that need support at mant different levels. Some of us are side"men" that need to know how to market ourselves. Some of us are mainstream pop that need management and/or producers and could use some advice in picking our team. All professionals have coaches and mentors. I think you could use one to help you understand that being snide and surly just makes you appear ignorant. I even took into account that you may have benn trying to be funny. You're not. Maybe you could look up your writing teacher for some pointers. Sincerely, Alisa B. GoGirls Elite Member

  • Cara Young 10/12/2007 10:48:00 PM

    Thank you Tony Meeks for making me laugh, laugh, laugh!!!!

  • Tony Meeks 10/12/2007 9:33:00 PM

    When I first read whats-her-name's article, I laughed. She reminded of this zit-faced chick in high school who hated everything and 'downed' everything. She also liked to use a lot of obscure references so she could elevate her self-importance. The funniest part of her little story was the 'pig blood' reference. I happen to like pork. And I eat pork. But I'm not into killing animals who were once pets. Damn nice people and their nice people ways. I am a dude. Yes, I have a dick. And a set to go with it. If you like, I'll give you the website link. I also have a big ass GoGirls tattoo on my right calf. Any guy or dude-chick thinks they're man enough to wipe it off, I'll be happy to give them that website also. I know Ms. Sklar. I happen to like her. Anybody that doesn't is jealous, intimidated or both. Madalyn has a deep voice, because she has a set, too. She has the balls to stand up to a world that tells women 'no' every day. She's made a difference. Therefore, she has a big target on her back. You want to see angst? You want to see rage? You want to see people pissed off - coming over the counter with a Les Paul in their hand to bash some douche's face in? Go back to your trailer park and have your cousin put on a show next to the Doughboy. At this show, I guarantee you will see street smart, focused, intense, well-educated, talented, entertaining, fun and yes, dammit - NICE - women making a positive impact in our world. Madayln rocks harder, works harder and smiles more than most people should be allowed to. But I think that has something to do with her being NICE. I can recommend a great show for whats-her-name that I'm sure she would enjoy. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys throw poo. Can't wait to read your review about that. Oh yes, and I have the balls to leave you my cell phone number - 979-820-7010. Tony Meeks www.3kisses.com www.myspace.com/3kisses

  • Sandy Andina 10/12/2007 9:09:00 PM

    When I heard that the Dallas Observer was going to cover not only a GoGirls show but one with mass appeal as a benefit for an organization only the Grinch would fail to support, I thought, "Way to go!" Now that I've read the article, I am speechless. Widmer missed the point of not only the benefit but of an organization like GoGirls. Founded as a way to empower women musicians in an industry controlled by cliquish, hostile xenophobes, why on earth should it stoop to the level of those it seeks to transcend? Madalyn and Annette recognize that "women's music" is a far bigger umbrella than casual observers of the Lilith Fair scene (like perhaps Widmer?) perceive: GoGirls and "Nette Radio have actively supported women in every genre of popular (and in a few cases, even classical) music; women of all orientations, levels of experience and ages; solos, duos and bands; even open-minded and open-hearted men. Even as Widmer seemingly decries the way women musicians have been treated in a sexist industry, she ironically tries to pigeonhole what a women's music organization ought to be into her own narrow concept. She just doesn't get it--you don't fight jerks by being a jerk. What is it, anyway, with second-or-third-string critics in secondary-market media outlets? Is the only way they can establish their credibility by disdaining everything they cover, thus painting themselves as hipper than their subjects and audiences? Whatever happened to JOURNALISM, anyway? Had Widmer researched the "5 Ws" of the story she'd have learned of all the heavy lifting Madalyn has done with GoGirls to empower women in music, the true role of a music-industry coach, the many genres in which independent women perform (thus making a coffeehouse a very logical choice of venue), the role of a supportive and eclectic indie DJ like Annette, and the very deserving and widely appealing cause--the no-kill shelter--to which this benefit concert is dedicated. Sorry to burst your bubble of self-important "hipper-than-thou-ness," Ms. Widmer, but there are more effective ways to fight male-dominated sexism than by metaphorically kicking guys in the nuts. Madalyn Sklar and Annette Conlon get that--you obviously DON'T. Sandy Andina Proud GoGirls Elite member President, Folk Alliance Region Midwest (FARM) Solo singer/songwriter/humorist and member of the SASS! Trio and Andina & Rich

  • Sandy Andina 10/12/2007 9:08:00 PM

    When I heard that the Dallas Observer was going to cover not only a GoGirls show but one with mass appeal as a benefit for an organization only the Grinch would fail to support, I thought, "Way to go!" Now that I've read the article, I am speechless. Widmer missed the point of not only the benefit but of an organization like GoGirls. Founded as a way to empower women musicians in an industry controlled by cliquish, hostile xenophobes, why on earth should it stoop to the level of those it seeks to transcend? Madalyn and Annette recognize that "women's music" is a far bigger umbrella than casual observers of the Lilith Fair scene (like perhaps Widmer?) perceive: GoGirls and "Nette Radio have actively supported women in every genre of popular (and in a few cases, even classical) music; women of all orientations, levels of experience and ages; solos, duos and bands; even open-minded and open-hearted men. Even as Widmer seemingly decries the way women musicians have been treated in a sexist industry, she ironically tries to pigeonhole what a women's music organization ought to be into her own narrow concept. She just doesn't get it--you don't fight jerks by being a jerk. What is it, anyway, with second-or-third-string critics in secondary-market media outlets? Is the only way they can establish their credibility by disdaining everything they cover, thus painting themselves as hipper than their subjects and audiences? Whatever happened to JOURNALISM, anyway? Had Widmer researched the "5 Ws" of the story she'd have learned of all the heavy lifting Madalyn has done with GoGirls to empower women in music, the true role of a music-industry coach, the many genres in which independent women perform (thus making a coffeehouse a very logical choice of venue), the role of a supportive and eclectic indie DJ like Annette, and the very deserving and widely appealing cause--the no-kill shelter--to which this benefit concert is dedicated. Sorry to burst your bubble of self-important "hipper-than-thou-ness," Ms. Widmer, but there are more effective ways to fight male-dominated sexism than by metaphorically kicking guys in the nuts. Madalyn Sklar and Annette Conlon get that--you obviously DON'T. Sandy Andina Proud GoGirls Elite member President, Folk Alliance Region Midwest (FARM) Solo singer/songwriter/humorist and member of the SASS! Trio and Andina & Rich

  • Andrea 10/12/2007 7:47:00 PM

    I've debated whether or not writing a response to this would just give more attention to Jonanna Widner. Instead I�ve decided it would support Madelyn Sklar, Annette Conlon and GoGirlsMusic. I don�t know anyone in this organization, (except through a few emails here and there) and as a new member have just recently become more active myself. But, I sincerely appreciate what this organization stands for. It�s actually in the very title of this article. Indie. Women. Unite. Any intelligent individual who has read this �article� (which I would really reconsider calling it a blog posting) will either go find out for themselves what GoGirls is really about or they will read an aggressive attack on a couple of people and an organization and wonder why there�s nothing about the festival (since that�s what the title pertains to). Either way the writer comes off uninformed, malicious � almost anti-woman. I am in Denver, CO so I won�t be at the show and, honestly, Jonanna - you should go � but, well � even �tame� cats growl when they�re whipped

  • Vanessa Van Spall 10/12/2007 7:42:00 PM

    I wish you had someone reporting on music that actually cared about music. Widner seems to be more of an expert on �entertainment� involving violence and vomit � elements frequently NOT found associated with music. I question a publication that ridicules two people who devote their lives to helping others. Please rethink your own contribution to society.

  • Jenn 10/12/2007 7:30:00 PM

    Joanna, I am speechless at the lack of journalistic integrity you showed with this article, and can only be thankful that you will in no way be involved in the Nashville GoGirls benefit. That the Dallas Observer would even see fit to print such drivel lends serious doubt to it's relevance and its support of the local music scene. You have laid bare your own ignorance and prejudices, news of which has spread to Nashville and beyond, by the way. If this is an example of the caliber of music writing at the Observer, I can only hope that the artists I know are not so unfortunate as to receive any attention from you. I have seen many poorly written concert previews from around the country/world during my days as a tour publicist, but this really takes the cake. You and the Observer owe Madalyn, Annette and the artists involved in this benefit show an apology. Shameful.

  • Jule Carey 10/12/2007 7:19:00 PM

    Did this event take place already? Was it tame and boring?...or is it just your opinion that it will be? Woman and their music run the scope and gamut beyond the acts that you sited and wished were performing at this event. Thankfully, the women that are running this event have already gained respect from their peers. What is often needed from the media is coverage of an upcoming event and critique afterwards. One can tell that you are not a female musician trying to make it in a difficult industry.

  • Treva 10/12/2007 7:05:00 PM

    You missed the whole point. You made fun of somebody who is actually trying to provoke change by empowering women musicians. Not only that, but offering to give money away to organizations who try to find homes for abandoned animals. Next time, try listening to the folks you're interviewing instead of playing reruns of SNL in your head. I think you owe Madalyn and all the girls playing this benefit a large apology, and a better picture for the article, too. *Madalyn - keep up the great work!*

  • Robin Dearing 10/12/2007 6:42:00 PM

    The "journalist" who wrote this was obviously high on crack when this was written. Madalyn Sklar is a dynamic and upbeat professional whose organization provides much-needed support and guidance to women trying to make it in the good-ole-boys world of music. Madalyn is nice, but she's also an ass kicker who is professional and dedicated. She is the type of strong female roll model that sets that bar high and then helps you to get over it. This story is unadulterated crap.

  • Tish Meeks 10/12/2007 6:20:00 PM

    I thought about writing a message to whatever-her-name-is who wrote this piece of trash that is as irrelevant as she is. Nah�. What I would like to say is that Madalyn Sklar is honest, motivating, supportive, positive and yes, indeed�she is nice. She has done so very much to help 3 Kisses and we regard her as a dear friend. The sacrifices she has made and continues to make to build an organization as vast and successful as GoGirls are evidence of her commitment to women in music. Madalyn is a highly respected member of the Indie music community and you might be surprised to find a growing number of men joining GoGirls. We�re not a group of men-hating, boy-bashing whiners, we�re simply standing up for our right to create and perform music. Lots of men are standing up with us. Madalyn has a lot to do with that. As for Annette Conlon, she hooked 3 Kisses up with our first gig in Dallas. We had never even met, yet, when I asked for her help, she jumped right in and made it happen. She also plays 3 Kisses frequently on �Nette Radio. Annette epitomizes the spirit of GoGirls. Ignore the haters! Now, go out there play great music and save some animals! Tish Meeks www.3kisses.com www.myspace.com/3kisses

  • Annie Aronson 10/12/2007 5:57:00 PM

    Jonanna, This article seems to be about you. It is not about the gogirls music fest or Madalyn because you seem to have no idea about what the event and organization are really all about. Are you a musician? If not, you may want to try getting onstage and doing all of the things that you feel women musicians ought to be doing for you.

  • Jeanine Guidry 10/12/2007 5:30:00 PM

    Whoa! Just as I thought - Hey, great, an article about gogirls - and then I read this? I am a working musician/singer, and I also am a writer, and this article first of all was a lousy article, and secondly did Madalyn, Annette, and everyone at gogirls no justice at all. I have just recently gotten involved with gogirls and it's a wonderful network and community, and they do not deserve whatever this article is.

  • Adrienne Nightingale 10/12/2007 5:16:00 PM

    Jonanna, please consider me for your next article!!! After reading your article about GoGirls, I am sure you would love to do an article about me as well! Please feel free to call me, really! Just email me for my number. I am just up your alley, maybe the most earnest, positive and inspirational folk artist out there. Oh, and I also have my own music non-profit, educating and empowering communities in developing countries about HIV and female genital mutilation, etc!!! You can see that project at http://www.CEETAproject.org or my personal website is http://www.AdrienneNightingale.com Living vibrantly, Adrienne

  • Meg 10/12/2007 4:40:00 PM

    Wow, what a horrible article. I'm amazed this made it through any editorial oversight. I went to many Lillith Fair concerts and certainly what does not come to mind when I think about them is the comedian you mentioned. I think of empowered, talented women showcasing their art. Your paper and the community would be better served if that instead had been the purpose of your article.

  • Marie Angell 10/12/2007 4:13:00 PM

    I've been a professional musician for 30 years and I would have happily murdered several distant relatives in my sleep for an organization like GoGirlsMusic when I was starting out (about the same time as Joan Jett, btw). At that time, it was tough as hell to be taken seriously as female musician with ideas--I lost count of the times I was essentially told "Here's a tambourine, now just stand there and sing what I tell you!" I'm also a writer and I recognize somebody trying too hard to be clever. No matter how overly earnest you think Madalyn and Annette are, they are doing a wonderful service for the music community in general, women musicians in particular and helping good causes. I have picked up some excellent advice, met wonderful people and actually appreciate Madalyn's update attitude because it's a hard business and it's easy to get discouraged.

  • Allison Wonderland 10/12/2007 4:00:00 PM

    Well, thanks for getting us back on the straight-and-narrow and letting us all know exactly what music by women is supposed to sound like and where it's supposed to be played. Also thanks for reminding us that if you don't like the sound of someone's voice, you should ridicule what they have to say. What a waste of electrons this article is...don't you realize that without folks like Madalyn and Annette behind the scenes, you probably never would see women like Kathleen Hanna, Joan Jett and Beth Ditto doing the things you love so well. How do you think they got where they are? The men of the music industry promoted them? Maybe they do now, but it was women who provided their initial support base while men were putting them down for being too strident. Artists don't just appear out of nowhere with a fanbase intact. Who do you think is laying the groundwork? The ironic thing about the use of the picture of Beth Ditto is that from what I know about her, I bet she'd think this article was a load of crap, too.

  • Marc Richards 10/12/2007 3:34:00 PM

    GOODNESS!! As a former major market news director, in our day, Jonanna Widner's journalistic learner's permit would have been pulled, and the 'training wheels' re-attached to her typewriter. However, in today's high-tech, instant news, computer driven society, Ms. Widner's 'editorial' piece comes across as bitter and 'homo-phobic'. It hardly resembles journalism and shows that the writer was absent from English 101, the day of the 'Five Ws' lecture. (Go Girls-Benefit Concert-Saturday, Oct. 13th, 5:30-11:30 PM-Opening Bell Coffee House-Proceeds support Operation Kindness-the largest No Kill Animal Shelter in North Texas). Not only does this �piece� do dis-service to a long venerated alternative publication, The Observer, it could also alienate a national organization, Go Girls, and local entrepreneurs Operation Kindness, The Opening Bell, as well as the local music scene. These are all potential advertisers and although they might expect a negative comment on occasion, I�m certain they will not appreciate the �bashing�. My �blue pencil� would be worn down to the eraser. Marc Richards, Independent Radio (at large) Cc: Editor, Dallas Observer

  • Jamie Anderson 10/12/2007 3:06:00 PM

    I'm a music writer and I'd never write a piece like yours. You've done a great disservice to a really great organization that's only trying to support women musicians and raise a little dough for a group helping animals. Although, I must commend you for including "vomit" in a piece. That's something I've never achieved.

  • Cedar-N-Sage 10/12/2007 1:21:00 PM

    SNORE....what a bore this article was...I believe you missed the point of the show, but then that's why you write in Dallas and not LA. Go Girls is about supporting female musicians, something I see you are not familiar with, but then I'm sure you had to fuck someone to get this job!!!!

  • Alaria 10/12/2007 1:04:00 PM

    You made your thoughts and feelings the most important part of the article. That's not journalism...that's op-ed. You missed critical information about the event. That's amateur. You attacked someone running a benefit. That's bad form. You admitted that you ridicule things you aren't familiar with. That's ignorant. You currently have a job writing about music in your community. That's unfortunate.

  • Cynthia Bennett 10/12/2007 11:40:00 AM

    You had an opportunity to promote a great concert for a worthy cause, and you blew it bashing GoGirls. As someone with superior insight once said, "There are two kinds of publicity: good publicity and no publicity". Thanks. Your venom validates the need for our organization, and gives us extra incentive to give a great performance. You have my condolences--we members of GoGirls will continue being professional musicians and friends helping each other in the industry, and you'll continue to stagnate in your own bitterness. A warning, too: some of us, including myself, use music as a vehicle for satirizing the absurdities of modern life. You may find yourself described in a song someday. Cynthia Bennett

  • Michelle Holmes 10/12/2007 10:00:00 AM

    I could not believe what I was reading when I saw this article. Shame on you. Shame shame shame. This is the worst piece of, well, I can't call it journalism. Let's call it what it is. Muck. This is the worst piece of muck I've ever read. Ever. About anything. Regardless of the fact that it was meant to promote women's music and animal rescue, which it was and which you should have done and should have helped and respected. The writing is just terrible. You should be fired for your lack of skill alone. Dallas, go see this show and support these talented indie artists and help the animals. Annette and MadAlyn, ignore this article and this woman. Oh, and what was up with that picture? It had nothing to do with GoGirls. Again, a piece of muck. You clearly disdain niceness because you know nothing about it.

  • Thea Hopkins 10/12/2007 7:16:00 AM

    I was absolutely stunned by the level of stupidity and hatred expressed in this article. The Dallas Observer clearly needs to examine it's journalistic standards. If the newspaper was trying to confirm to the greater world that Texas is populated by bigots and hate-mongers, you have more than succeeded. Congratulations.

  • John Fountain 10/12/2007 6:56:00 AM

    I guess in your Neanderthal world this article counts as wit and humor. Let me inform you that it wasn�t funny and hip. It was hateful, ignorant, disgusting, bigoted and slimy. It is shocking to think it was in a �legitimate� newspaper�s music column and not some fanatic, right-wing homophobic rant on an obscure blog. It is often a little too easy for an intelligent and liberal Yankee such as myself to think of Texans as lower forms of human-beings. They certainly seem to be very busy proving to the civilized world that they are thugs, bullies and �patriotic� blowhards. But even an left-wing east-coast elitist like myself would have thought that a professional music journalist in Dallas might have a higher consciousness than your average fag-hating cowboy. Or cowgirl, as the case may be. And by the way, I always wondered about the numbskulls who could tolerate the retard humor Saturday Night Live after about 1985. So, it ends up to be idiots like you! Not only stupid bigot, but a bully, too! I�ve written a lot of music journalism myself over the years, and, like Woody Guthrie once said of a good song, I think good journalism should �afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.� Your ugly column was that adage�s exact opposite. I hope your days at the Observer are soon over.

  • Debbie Hennessey 10/12/2007 6:45:00 AM

    Ms. Widner, It's had to believe you could be this out of touch with the music industry when your paper claims you to be one of their music writers. You missed an unbelievable opportunity to showcase how independent artists work together helping each other and charities that are in need. Instead you chose to perpetuate the media stereotype view of a musician's life. In my many years of being a professional musician neither I nor the any of the talented and hard working musicians I know have ever so much as fallen asleep in a "pool of our own vomit" let alone died in it. Honestly, put away your VHS copy of The Rose and join the real world. We are girls, guys, wives, husbands, moms, dads, daughters, sons, friends, people! Many still work regular jobs while creating music that is just as good and sometimes a whole lot better than what you hear on your radio. Yes, you missed an opportunity to showcase a wonderful organization in GoGirls Music and a truly amazing person and business owner in Madalyn. I sincerely hope that when some young person is looking for path to follow their dreams they look to someone like Madalyn and not someone who appears to have gotten a journalism degree from the National Enquire. Debbie Hennessey Multi-Award Winning Artist and GoGirls Music Elite Member

  • Nancy Adler 10/12/2007 5:48:00 AM

    I am not even a musician or a Go Girl, and I see that this music article totally missed out on some great potential. And, I thought so even before I expanded to see all the comments. As a Rag Mag editor myself, Ms. Widner, I can only hope that you will take down this picture as Annette Warner commented if it is not a depiction of the organization in discussion because it really does do a disservice to your journalism skills. among other things, to not even provide an adequate and attractive choice of photo for your article - associated with the subject. Personally, I think you've gotten way too much advice in these replies, albeit rather flameable. People like you need to disappear in the journalism world - and advice tends to assure your staying around a bit if you follow it. You are too cliche. You are not as funny as you tried to be, and I smelled a tad bit of trying to "fit in" to a world you know nothing about. I just don't get it. You owe this organization an apology, and, we'd like to see it written here. Redeem yourself and explain your angle, please.

  • Lynn King 10/12/2007 5:08:00 AM

    Your article could't be any further from the truth about the meaning behind this charitable event and the GoGirlsMusic community. It is sad that you wrote a article without researching any of the facts. It is shamingly obvious that you know nothing about todays music industry,coaching or consulting by your own lack of research as a journalist. Perhaps you should find a good journalism coach. I find your article in poor taste and an embarrassment to your field.

  • MARGOT 10/12/2007 3:55:00 AM

    WWW.MYSPACE.COM/MARGOTMALIA I don't think you have to be a heartless bitch to be in the music business. It is actually refreshing to meet a balanced, sound person to get her point across effectively. You got more of your vivid, violent expectations of the event then what actually happened. I thought a reporter/interviewer reports what happens. Was this article in the talk soup section? The review seems more like a bratty kid not getting what she wanted. I think you could have dug deeper for content. Positive reinforcement comes from a good person not an unstable a-hole.

  • Trish Lester 10/12/2007 3:10:00 AM

    I was at my local Barnes & Noble store today. Saw they have 2008 calendar on sale there -- "Getting in Touch with Your Inner Bitch." I have a few too-nice friends who could use this gift. You, evidently, have already worked your way through the 2006 and 2007 versions! What garbage. I know, I know, you're building a reputation for being "edgy." Does bad-mouthing honest, big-hearted, talented musicians truly help you build your career? Your attitude does an injustice to our gender. I understand you're a MUSIC EDITOR! Sad that the pool of journalists is so shallow in Dallas, TX. Maybe your management should do some recruiting out here in Los Angeles! To Madalyn and Annette -- Keep up the good work! Trish Lester Singer/Songwriter & GoGirls Elite Member Santa Clarita, California www.TrishLester.com

  • whynospy 10/12/2007 1:29:00 AM

    Bashing those who raise money for a worthwhile charity and promote individual artists is a meritless exercise. Was this done merely for the purpose of maintaining the Observer's 'snarky' attitude?

  • John Matranga 10/12/2007 1:26:00 AM

    I�m a huge proponent of females in music, especially the genre that I�m primarily involved in which is alt-rock. I especially love the female voice over rock music � I think it sounds great and it�s refreshing. I�ve been in and involved with bands that have had female singers for 12+ years because I enjoy it and believe in it. I�ve known Madalyn for 4+ years and have been a member of GoGirls during that time as well. I�ve known Annette through her band Eden Automatic, of which my band OSIRUS played on the same bill as one night and then more recently through her radio program �NetteRadio. The point of giving that background info is to let you know where I�m coming from and also to let you know both of these ladies support what I do and I certainly support what they do. They are proponents of females in music and they�ve put a great deal of effort into that cause. However, your article seems to take a negative bent on them and what they�re trying to do. In other words, your article works AGAINST the cause they and I are proponents of. I feel as though your article hasn�t represented these fine ladies well nor has it given justice to the type of work they do with GoGirls and �NetteRadio. My hope is that you will reconsider your negativity and in the future not unduly stereotype these ladies, or anyone else for that matter, as your article certainly has.

  • Annnette Conlon 10/12/2007 1:16:00 AM

    I�m looking at this as positively as I can. No virtual egg throwing or name calling. While Jonanna bashed my very good friend Madalyn for absolutely no reason and did not cover the GoGirlsMusicFest with any attention to detail I am heartened to know how very many of you are supportive of Madalyn, of GoGirlsMusic and women in music. If you tell two friends, and they tell two friends we will have a hell of a show, raise a ton of money for Operation Kindness and the artists will play for a great, supportive audience. If your friends check out GoGirlsMusic.com and decide to join then they will become stronger and more empowered and learn how to help themselves and other musicians. Tell your friends about NetteRadio and I�ll play their female fronted bands. So in the end we all win. Madalyn was bashed.. That�s not cool. But she knows without a doubt how many people love her. Annette Conlon NetteRadio.com GoGirlsMusicFest Dallas/Los Angeles/Long Beach www.myspace.com/gogirlsmusicfestdallas www.myspace.com/gogirlsmusicfestla www.myspace.com/gogirlsmusicfestlongbeach

  • xanthe a. 10/12/2007 1:13:00 AM

    As a female you should be ashamed of yourself. keep your uneducated views of this defender of women empowerment to yourself. ~Bad Ass Rocker Bitch.

  • Jean Synodinos 10/12/2007 1:09:00 AM

    Nice use of those precious column inches! I'm betting that some of your readership might have actually wanted to know about supporting women's music and animal protection. All they know now is what bugs you personally. Like everyone else, I'm appalled by the rudeness you exhibit on pretty much every level. I understand the role of a reporter (just the facts, ma'am) as opposed to a columnist (opinions, please?), but lord, woman, what kind of columnist do you want to be? It's one thing to be critical of work you've witnessed and about which you might have an informed opinion; it's quite another to be mean, mean, mean. Karma, baby. I think you just opened a can of karmic whupass on yourself. Watch out for feral cats hiding in the dark. Jean Synodinos www.myspace.com/jeansynodinos www.jeansynodinos.com

  • CJ 10/12/2007 12:26:00 AM

    "I feel like a real jerk calling out Sklar and Conlon�their hearts are in the right place, and the show benefits Operation Kindness. Both Sklar and Conlon seem, from my conversations with them, like really nice people. " You should listen to that part of you, it's the part your momma raised right. The rest of you could use some therapy.

  • Lara Ewen 10/11/2007 11:37:00 PM

    I am sure that the Dallas Observer is a respected paper staffed with a number of high caliber reporters. That�s why it�s so unfortunate that Ms. Wider is not held to the same journalistic standards as the other music critics at her paper. Or perhaps Ms. Wider�s story on the upcoming GoGirls event simply slipped through the cracks of a busy newsroom. Or perhaps it was intended to be an unedited opinion piece and not actually a news story at all. In the case of the latter, it should have run in the blog section and not in the music section. I feel for Ms. Wider. I notice that she is one of only two women who regularly write for the paper�s music section. I can only assume that it�s because of her gender that she was assigned to write about GoGirls. I�m sure she would have preferred to write the piece on Joan Jett that also ran in today�s paper, since Jett is far more in keeping with Ms. Wider�s tastes than an acoustic coffeehouse benefit for a no-kill shelter. As a fellow female journalist, I know that women are often given the short end of the stick when assignments are handed out, especially in the male-dominated world of music journalism. However, that being said, her piece is disappointing, in part because she seems to want to force indie female musicians into the same box she herself has been placed. The idea that women must be as loud or louder than men in order to be heard is an old one, and it�s an idea that is hopefully on its way out. There are plenty of soft-spoken women who are nonetheless able to make themselves heard. Madalyn Sklar (not Madelyn) is one of them. Perhaps in the future, Ms. Wider will be taken as seriously as the male critics with whom she works, and she will not have to struggle against the unfortunate stereotypes that run as rampantly through the journalism industry as they do in the music industry. If that day should ever come, it will be in part due to the efforts of Madalyn Sklar, who strives to give a voice to female musicians everywhere, regardless of how loudly they themselves scream. It�s my hope that one day, Ms. Wider will benefit from Sklar�s efforts, even if she derides them now.

  • Jenn Grinels 10/11/2007 11:11:00 PM

    Word of the GoGirl Article has spread as far west as California. It's a travesty that such a well meaning event (on so many levels) would be met by such harsh words in your paper. What you said will not only negatively impact the success of this specific concert, but, thanks to the internet, could hurt future GoGirls events across the country. When dealing with charities and any organization with a positive message, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

  • Lisa 10/11/2007 11:02:00 PM

    HAHA....I feel sorry for you Jonanna, you really had no idea of the wrath you would incite. Nevermind that you, as music editor, shouldn't have had to do interviews about a highly visible music organization that's been around 11 years. You should have already known about it. And that you would use this forum to publicly insult the organization's founder without provocation is borderline libel. Heaven forbid you just do something radical, like simply cover the event.

  • Tommy Galloway 10/11/2007 10:52:00 PM

    Just remember kids...at the Observer they're in the business of selling papers (well, you know what I mean). We all learned from the Zac Crain years that getting a rile out of people is far more intersting...and surely profitable...than just being a decent, honest, interesting journalist. That's just not good business. It's boring. So keep that in mind. She's just sticking to the formula (irony anyone?).

  • Peter Kimmel 10/11/2007 10:52:00 PM

    What a rude article by an seemingly equally rude woman. I thought I was reading the Music section, not the Op/Ed section. Widner's personal problems and biases obviously got in the way of her actually listening and clearly hearing the conversations with those admirable women of GoGirls. Further, her rudimentary stab at journalism was both condescending and inappropriate for an article such as this. Unfortunate.

  • Roxanne 10/11/2007 10:46:00 PM

    You did an awesome job of bringing attention the the benefit....oh yeah, my mistake, you didn't! Ok...so since you are a "journalist" and they wanted to publicize the event to raise money for Operation Kindness, why didn't you do your job of covering that? I'm not sure what your job requirements are, but I would think that you could at LEAST properly cover a benefit. As for: "I feel like a real jerk..." well, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...you know the rest. "- calling out Sklar and Conlon..." gee, that's not what the article was supposed to be about sweet-pea. You completely dropped the ball on this one. Thanks for nothing.

  • Monique 10/11/2007 10:39:00 PM

    Wow. There is nothing that I could write that would express my astonishment at the idiotic, rude article that you wrote. I can't believe that you would bash ANYONE who is voluntarily putting on shows to raise money for charity, especially for defenseless animals! Your article was nonsense, having more to do with name dropping than with the ENTIRE purpose of either the event or GoGirlsMusic.com. What a shame that you chose to present this as your example of an announcement about the fest. You and your newspaper should be embarassed for allowing such immature journalist efforts. Monique Lactose Quervo

  • debbie 10/11/2007 10:30:00 PM

    The saying what goes around comes around always happens. Watch out what and who you bash. Why do you check out what good people do to help others instead of bash.

  • Annie Benjamin 10/11/2007 10:25:00 PM

    "An appropriate reaction to shitty boy behavior like that requires more than grabbing the closest acoustic guitar and writing a real intense song about it." Well--- Joanna- sounds like you needed to get your computer out of the closet and write an intense article... ..clearly you needed to get something out of your system, perhaps now you can back to covering the real point.... like the fact that this event is a benefit for operation kindness, and that the ladies performing are giving up time, energy and paying Saturday night gigs to make the world a better place.... Ms. Skar and Ms Conlon are extremely passionate about and dedicated to helping gals out in an industry that is not always the most respectful toward us .... (fyi.. my hubby's kitty Kayla came from Ooperation Kindness in 1989 and lived to 20!)

  • Daniel Watkins 10/11/2007 10:21:00 PM

    Why was my respectful yet constructive comment just deleted? As a former Journalism major, my constructive criticism was highly relevant. It did not cross any lines, or use any profanity. Why has it and several other well written comments been deleted?

  • Raina Rose 10/11/2007 10:05:00 PM

    I have been an independent touring musician for the last two years. There are a TON of internet sites that say "For $200, you can be a part of this community that will help your career sky rocket!" that have absolutely NO positive effect on anything you do, you don't even get to talk to the person who started it. $200 might not seem that much to a 9-5er, but to an indie musician that's somewhere around 1500-2000 miles. Big deal. When I joined gogirls I didn't put that much energy into it, i was busy getting shows booked. Then at a Folk Alliance i met Madalyn. She knew my name. She was excited to meet me. She made me feel like i was a part of a community that appreciated the work i did. She was a real person out to help other real people form a living from their dreams. The information that she provides, the energy that she puts forth, the amount of work this woman does is amazing and incredibly helpful. DO you really want to bash her and her organization that helps women survive in a boy's club (yes it is still very much a boy's club)? That just makes you seem uninformed, unappreciative, immature and holier-than-thou. There are a lot of people working hard to help others. We should be applauding that as opposed to condemning it and making fun of it. I wish i could be there! But i'm tour right now, making my living as an independent musician thanks to people like Madalyn Sklar. thank you Raina Rose http://www.rainarose.com

  • Michelle 10/11/2007 10:02:00 PM

    wow, i was about to write a comment, but decided to read the others first and it looks like you all took care of this Jonannananana woman already. I echo all your positive comments and will leave it at that. If I wasnt in NY i would definitely come out to support! I am sure it will rock! (and not in a mean, bitter, washed up kinda way, which i think is what this writer would prefer) Peace, Michelle Suesens GoGirls Elite Member co-coordinator of the GoGirls music fest in Brooklyn, NY happening 11/10/07

  • Gigi 10/11/2007 10:02:00 PM

    You obviously don't read your own magazine... Opening Bell Coffee is a fine place for a girl music festival. What is it you don't like? Girls? Music? Festivals? Coffee? Or is it the team spirit by Sklar and Conlon that challenges you? From the small amount of actual detail I�m able to pull from your piece it sounds like these two women have a much firmer position in the music community than you ever will. You should take a lesson from these two and learn to play nice. Best Liquid Assets (2005) Standards and Pours Coffee and Stocks (now known as OPENING BELL COFFEE) 1409 S. Lamar St., Suite 012 214-565-0383 Does anybody remember Grinders Coffee on Lower Greenville years ago? (Erykah Badu probably does; she used to work there.) The homey neighborhood feeling it had is echoed in Standards and Pours on the south side of downtown in the South Side Lofts building. But if you're the white-collar financial type, this could be your second office. The coffee is good, but the options are above and beyond: Wi-Fi access, the Wall Street Journal at your fingertips, a reference library for research and even space for your meetings with a PowerPoint presentation. Not a starched shirt? No problem. Anyone not tied to a PDA can enjoy breakfast or lunch, live music, board games and even karaoke. Take that, Starbucks.

 

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