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Matt Harrison 02/08/2009 8:41:00 AM
Kevin Keane is one of the nicest men I have ever met and I have so much respect for him. He puts his family before anything and deserves no treatment like this. The DPL is sick and each seperate catholic community is just pissed they can't have a supporter like this man. I hope the league gets what they deserve and I hope for the best for the Keanes
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Matt Harrison 02/08/2009 8:40:00 AM
Kevin Keane is one of the nicest men I have ever met and I have so much respect for him. He puts his family before anything and deserves no treatment like this. The DPL is sick and each seperate catholic community is just pissed they can't have a supporter like this man. I hope the league gets what they deserve and I hope for the best for the Keanes
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TR 01/18/2008 3:08:00 AM
Looks like LionMom might be right, Dr. LaBlanc is "resigning". Maybe his replacement will make some changes at St. Mark. Keep your fingers crossed.
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THE Chase Gaddy 12/13/2007 7:01:00 PM
well, your Holiness, two of the four DPL track meets had field events that were cancelled due to rain. The correct, moral, and christian thing to have done would have been to either make up these events another day
(which antes said himself would probably happen) or not count the running points earned on these days. Looiking at the placings in the field events for the 2006 season, there is no doubt that I would have taken first in shot and discus in both of these meets, giving me a total of 40 points, and making me DPL MVP. Does that answer your [rude and bad-mannered] question?
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Strita 8th grader 12/13/2007 12:05:00 AM
I dont really see any problem with coach kevin keane he made a mistake he paid the price he should have been allowed to coach this year. without being jerked around by the dpl, many dont realize but my own coach here at strita was also found cheating at the high school level i think this is much more serious than anything that keane has done. this year was probally my last year of football, thank you dpl for cutting my season short by boycotting my game against mr keane
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Pope Benedict 12/06/2007 8:01:00 PM
So, Chase. Please tell us the story. How exactly did BJ screw you out of the MVP award? Why did BJ have it in for you for no apparent reason?
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Chase Gaddy 12/04/2007 8:38:00 PM
I am a former STA student who has played football all of my life. We played against St. Marks all four years i played, and beat them 2 of the four years. We beat Keane's team my 8th grade year, but barely. STA has a "D1" and "D2" team, but the reason no one has brought attention to it is because our teams don't win. The reason why the teams who have boycotted st. marks won't play them, is simply because they do not want to be defeated. I own a landscaping company based in lake highlands (Gaddy Landscaping-annual and monthly rates available), and Mr. Keane has done nothing but selfless deeds for me. He has advised me on what i need to work on, do better, or offer more to my clients. He willingly sent me copies of all his contracts, which usually would not be seen by someone who is not interested in his work. He continues to offer advice to me, expecting nothing in return. The reason why some people don't like Mr. Keane is because he is a no BS, get down to work kind of guy. He's not going to waste his time whinning over you if you decide not to like hi, because he'll move on and find someone else to talk to. He could care less. Not in spite, but because that is the way he is, and some selfish people who expect to be treated as royalty do not appreciate being blown off. For everyone who criticizes his money, what would you rather him do???? just quit, not have a job, and not try to pay for a big family? Jealousy comes into play here. I know first hand of what the Parents and assosciates of the DPL can do to people, as BJ Antes personally screwed me out of receiving the MVP award in the DPL track season. (I ended up getting runner up). The Parents of Many schools in the DPL (STA first and foremost) are controlling, manipulative parents that hate seeing their children offended in any way. Take it form me, a first hand football player and winner of a catholic bowl, that your child would much rather be part of a team that wins a catholic bowl, than be a player who gets "rotated in" along with the rest of kids who aren't athletic, and be part of a team that wins nothing. Mr. Keane did nothing wrong by playing the 6th grader on a 5th grade team. Everyone was notified who was supposed to be, and BJ Antes and Gary Oliver schematically manipulated it so Mr. Keane would get screwed. Antes should really be considered the "satan" of the parochial league, not Mr. Keane.
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Parker Keane 11/25/2007 5:05:00 AM
Mac, are you really going to say something about me or any of my other siblings in here...seriously? Once again just another person in here trying to start things online because they have nothing better to do and by means of using fake names. Why don't all you people actually get to know my dad personally before you go slandering the name of this "rich man" who unlike most of you has worked his entire life to make a successful life for himself and his family, rather than being a low life who sits around and talks bad about a man who gives so much to so many people, and who has put his heart and soul into the success of your children for many years. you people make me sick. move on with it, get over your selves.
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Parker Keane 11/25/2007 5:01:00 AM
Mac, are you going to say something about me in this...seriously? Once again just another person in here trying to start thinks online and using fake names. Why dont all you people actually get to know my dad personally before you go slandering the name of this "rich man" yeah he has worked to make a successful life for himself and his family unlike you low life's who sit around and talk bad about a man who gives so much to so many people, and who has put his heart and soul into the success of your children for many years. you people make me sick. move on with it, get over your selves.
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figured it out 11/24/2007 7:10:00 AM
Lauren & "Mac".... no wonder you can't be unbiased - your mom and her friend started this whole thing bet your glad your faraway now :)
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figured it out 11/24/2007 7:08:00 AM
Lauren & "Mac".... no wonder you can't be unbiased - your mom and her friend started this whole thing bet your glad your faraway now :)
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Lauren 11/20/2007 10:03:00 PM
Wow. This whole ordeal involving Mr. Keane has been going on way too long. It really is embarassing. I am not directly involved with the situation, but have formed my own opinion by being a bystander. Personally, I like Mr. Keane, I agree he has his faults but everyone does. Being a coach is difficult, you will always be criticized. Mr. Keane is very competitive and focused on winning. Too much so? I would say yes, but that is my personal opinion. I graduated from St. Mark not too long ago, and this type of drama was not there when I was, or it wasn't brought to my attention. The Keane family is a really good family and I can't imagine what this is doing to them. I do not know where Keane's intentions lie, but I do know that the kids like him. My brother was involved in all of this. My brother isn't the best football player, so he didn't get much playing time in the games. That hurt him, and it upset me to see him hurt. My brother was upset that he wasn't getting playing time, but didn't hate Mr. Keane. My parents have their own opinion on Keane, and I agree and disagree with some of their feelings. Regardless, this is what it boils down to: This is junior high football, regardless of their talent or skill, all the kids should get a chance to play. Mr. Keane was too focused on winning. He was punished for it. He handled it poorly. He made mistakes, it doesn't make him a bad person. I do agree however that this article was unnecessary and biased. In my opinion everything was starting to cool off, then this happened.
On a personal note: My parents don't agree with Mr. Keane's decisions. I honeslty haven't really cared, I don't deal with Mr. Keane all that often so my opinion was indifferent. I didn't have anything agaisnt him, but I didn't take a personal liking to him. When my friend Colin died, Mr. Keane was very supportive and comforting, regardless of our families; differences. Maybe that is just human nature to be sympathetic to someone during that time. That is just my personal experiences with him.
No one likes to be wrong, maybe Mr. Keane didn't think what he was doing was wrong, that is not for anyone to judge. I am not defending or supporting Mr. Keane. I just wanted to say that I am personally embarassed because this has tarnished my fond memories of St. Mark and it's community. You are entitled to your own opinion, but I think everyone would agree that this issue is getting out of hand. Everyone needs to stop bashing eachother. I think what everyone wants is for the kids to be happy and for there to be justice. I am a firm believer in karma and so the justice bit will take care of itself. As for the kids, I know for a fact that many of them just want this whole thing to be over and done with.
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Greg P 11/15/2007 7:36:00 PM
Wow. Was told of this article by a good friend, and I can't believe someone with any journalistic integrity couold write something so off base. My kids go (and went) to St. Mark's, and I know all about Mr. Keane. He is your typical rich guy: has to get his way or else, will do anything to win, and can easily influence kids and naive parents with his personality. How and why anyone would want to defend this man is beyong me, but it is obvious that some do. St. Mark's loss of thsi coach is indeed a blessing, and that is a fact. And, I have no axe to grind, since my children were not great athletes and I have never had a son or daughter coached by him. I do, however, trust the opinion of many well-educated folks who know Keane very well. None of them speak highly of him.
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Uil 11/15/2007 4:54:00 AM
UIL vs DPL
Public vs Private
Correct vs Discriminatory
Let's take the personalities out. In the UIL, if you play an inelgible player you forfeit the game. In the religious DPL you get life (if the AD is dating your former adversary)
Camille Patrick offended many at St. Mark and thankfully resigned or was fired in the summer of 2005. Advantage St. Mark. It appears she revenged her departure from St. Mark by utilizing her relationship with Mr. Antes to get back at one of her adversaries.
Simple as that. A woman scorned. NOT.
Mr. Keane refused defeat. He responded like most of us would that were wrongly accused. Did he go over the top? It appears not....If you question Keane's actions, why not petition the Bishop to recind the morality clause from employee contracts.
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Chubby bunny 11/15/2007 4:39:00 AM
Wow, dpl. That was really well written. When you finish 2nd grade, do you plan to give 3rd grade a shot?
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dpl 11/15/2007 3:09:00 AM
everyone in this forum is so ignorant get over yourselves it is DPL youth football you are reacting like this man kill someone. this issue has been blown out of proportion. KEVIN KEANE IS A BAD MAN BECAUSE HE CONSTANTLY DONATES COUNTLESS AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND MONEY TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL. helps people get off the feet and get their business off the ground. AND MOTIVATES KIDS TO PLAY SPORTS? i guess that makes him a terrible person.
u people get your shit straight this is getting old.
you people make me sick
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DB 11/14/2007 2:53:00 PM
Kevin Keane is not worth all this time. He needs to stay at his Wally World estate and coach the Celtics. He is dangerous to young minds, trust me. He encourages young boys to glare at "hot" girls like a buddy of theirs. He calls young boys pussy's who are not tough enough for him. These are characteristics of a healthy coach or role model? Those who support Kevin have personal interest in doing so. Most of them hated him in the past, admit it folks. I don't think they befriend him for intellectual or moral reasons and supporting him so their kids could play hasn't worked out, has it?
BJ on the other hand has been nothing but a gentleman and a man who has wanted to put an end to Keanes manipulative, childish tactics. He has wanted Kevin to own what he has done and follow the rules, that's all. BJ has protected the anonymity of folks who have wanted to see Kevin Keane out of coaching at the cost of his own reputation. Why? Because he promised those parents he would not disclose their identity so that their child would not pay the price. He could have had Kevin gone long ago if those parents would have gone public. He respected their fears. And isn't that what Kevin really preys off of? He intimidates people, children included, and plays victim when he's caught. Maybe some day I will see a different side to this, but I am a pretty good judge of character and there is no comparison to the character of Kevin and BJ. I love my brother too Jo Jo, but I'm not blind to his shortcomings. Time to admit defeat Kevin and move on. How about Houston?
DB
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Terry S 11/14/2007 12:45:00 PM
Actually, SRS and several other school principals decided to stand up to this guy, who broke rules and was not following the rules. These folks told his school's administration that they would not play the school if he was their coach. This was their way to make sure the school, the coach, and those affected by him knew they agreed that what he had done and was doing was wrong. The school then chose to keep him as coach. Yes, kids were affected. But, at some point someone had to stand up to what this "bully" was doing. Please do not glorify Kevin Keane. If even half of what folks have been told/saying is true, he has no shame. And, although I wish the schools had found a better way to punsih him (without penalizing both schools), I don't think there was a better way, and I applaud their willingness to stand up to this man. Hopefully, he learned that rules are there to be followed and, hopefully, he learned that there are consequences to your actions when those actions are not ethical or moral. The person I feel most sorry for is BJ Antes, a good person who was dragged through the mud by a bully who felt like smearing his good name would be a good thing. Classless. And, I feel sorry for the DPL. Losing BJ Antes was a bad thing. But, if the price was also losing "Coach" Keane, then it may have been worth the price.
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Rob V 11/14/2007 12:37:00 PM
Kevin Keane is being made out to be the good guy in this article. trust me, he's not even close. He cheated, got caught, cheated again, and decided to go after some very good folks when they followed the rules and punished him. He went after people in ways that are not ethical, and he ended up weakening a league he was once a part of. He has money, and I think this makes him feel as if he can do whatever he wants, regardless of the effect it has on people. The DPL is better off without him, and I just hope the folks affected by him end up ok. They will, because they are better people than he is. He's classless, and anyone who associates with him is, in my opinion, just as classless. His decision to coach a team that was told it would be penalized if he was their coach was also selfish. The DPL will survive, but it is not thanks to him.
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Kids First 11/14/2007 6:09:00 AM
"Several DPL schools decided that they would take issue with Kevin Keane, his school, and the school's prinicpal by not playing a team coached by him."
You see, Bob W, all ofyou are forgetting one thing.....you affected children!!!! But, I guess they don't matter in all of this. The adults had to make a stance. The funny part is, you state Kevin didn't get his way so he did this, and then he didn't get his way so he did this.... hmmm St Rita and the other schools didn't want him to coach and they boycotted children'ts football. Yep they took the highroad and didn't do a thing when they didn't get their way. Kind of hypocritial don't you think. Shocking!!
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Bob W 11/13/2007 3:08:00 AM
I have stayed out of this whole mess for years now, but I have also spent that time gathering all stories from all sides. here is what I do know: Kevin Keane broke the rules, and he knew he was doing it. The parents of the boy who played down were told it was not against the rules, but they found out after the game Kevin Keane lied. Kevin Keane then broke the rules again. He was punished, but he chose to break the rules again. Then, when he didn't get his way, he went after the person he blamed for his mistakes. And, he went after him in a very negative way. The person he went after quit the DPL because of what Kevin Keane did. Then, after the DPL decided to ban him from coaching, he went over their heads to someone in power who could be influenced. Several DPL schools decided that they would take issue with Kevin Keane, his school, and the school's prinicpal by not playing a team coached by him. Those are all facts. The article is so biased and pro-Keane it is sad. There are too many good people out there who have nothing good to say about Kevin Keane. he's a rich guy who gets his way, one way or another. teh DPL is much better off without him.
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Holy Guacamole 11/12/2007 11:08:00 PM
Follow the money. All your questions will be answered?
Let's all get together in a public forum. My only question is if Mr. Antes built the DPL into the best youth league in the entire country, why did he quit?
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JD 11/12/2007 9:28:00 PM
Dear Bishop Embarrassed - You must be off your meds. You should know by now that is not a good thing. Let's see. You asked, "Keane is bad?" Well, as a matter of fact, yes. You also asked, "BJ Antes is good?" Once again, the answer is yes. Two for two. How about the rest of your oh-so-well thought out post. Hmmm.
Keane gives. YEP. "GIVES" YOUTH COACHING A BAD NAME.
Antes takes. YEP AGAIN. "TAKES" A MORIBUND LEAGUE AND BUILDS IT INTO A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
Keane keeps his marriage vows. YOU KNOW THIS HOW? [PUTTING ASIDE THAT IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, UNLESS YOU ARE MRS. KEANE.]
Antes breaks his marriage vows. YOU KNOW THIS HOW? [PUTTING ASIDE THAT IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, UNLESS YOU ARE THE FORMER MRS. ANTES.]
Learn people. ["LEARN PEOPLE"? DID YOU GO TO THE TARZAN SCHOOL OF WRITING? BISHOP GOOD. TARZAN LIKE BISHOP.] Antes has broken his contract with the Diocese [REALLY? AGAIN, YOU KNOW THIS HOW?] and his wife [ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW THIS HOW AND WHY IS IT YOUR BUSINESS?]. If you think Keane cheated [NOT REALLY "THINK", BIG FELLA OR BIG GAL, IT'S PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED, BUT I'LL PLAY ALONG], wait until you see his replacement [TELL ME. THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. WHO IS IT?]. Let's all close our eyes [OK. IS THIS SOME KIND OF MEDITATION THING OR ARE WE SUPPOSED TO COUNT TO TEN WHILE YOU HIDE?] and let the abuse continue [OOH. WE NEED SOME BACKGROUND MUSIC THAT CONVEYS A PROPER SENSE OF DOOM OR FOREBODING.].
Bishop - You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting.
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jt 11/12/2007 8:22:00 PM
Replacement? What replacement? Unless you are the AD at St. Mark, how do you know who will replace Kevin as coach next year?
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Bishop Embarrassed. 11/12/2007 6:23:00 PM
Let me get this straight.
Keane is bad?
BJ Antes is good?
Keane gives.
Antes takes.
Keane keeps his marriage vows.
Antes breaks his marriage vows.
Learn people. Antes has broken his contract with the Diocese and his wife. If you think Keane cheated, wait until you see his replacement. Let's all close our eyes and let the abuse continue.
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Katherine 11/09/2007 4:49:00 PM
Jo Jo - It is one thing for family to defend family. That is understandable and, in fact, to be expected in most cases. It's what family does. Your insights to your brother and personal observations of his behavior are helpful, although they do not explain or justify conduct that perhaps you have not had the opportunity to witness. Regardless, for anyone to feel ashamed to receive the Blessed Sacrament is beyond comprehension. No matter what you may think of pedophile priests or overzealous grade school parents or any other flawed Catholic for that matter (your brother included, presumably), the essence of the sacrifice Jesus made to die for our sins and His precious gift to us of His true presence in the Eucharist is never diminished by our actions or failings, and should never be the source of shame, unless it is shame at being unworthy to receive such a gift. I truly feel sorry for you.
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jo jo 11/09/2007 3:25:00 AM
My heart is pounding, my breath is coming in short spurts, if you could hear my voice it would have reverted to the Texas twang, I claimed I never had. I am the only member of my family who does not live eat and breathe sports, I am a pacifist and as my family likes to say," a damn liberal". I was brought up in the same Catholic Schools as Kevin Keane, 'cause I'm his sister.
And after reading all these comments I am ashamed to say I received holy communion last Sunday (again). This time it is not because of our priests, it is because families that no doubt sacrifice untold effort to provide their children with the BEST have come up with the worst.
Everytime I visit Dallas (a lot), I get to observe at least one game Kevin coaches and I have done so for the last ten years. I have watched him bring up six children. Though he and I could be no further apart, philisophically or politically, we both agree that children are the most important factor in anyone's life. He has made raising his kids and teaching other kids his mission. And don't be fooled, winning is not the main objective. I used to think that also. The main objective is heartfelt dedication to kids, his and others. And guess what else, that's where he finds his joy.
Why dont all ya'll go and do the same.....a service project to help some of the less fortunate in your community might be a good start. Now that's what a good catholic would do.
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KK 11/07/2007 8:56:00 PM
Hey gang - let's play basketball!
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Insider 11/07/2007 12:20:00 PM
So, Guacamole, you obviously don't have any information to base your made-up claim on.
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Holy Guacamole 11/07/2007 4:06:00 AM
Did anyone say embezzzlement? Audits are performed everyday. Publicly traded companies have audits annually. Look at all the good audits do. They make the public feel safe that a company is performing up to certain standards. Think of an audit like the Sacrament of Reconciliation.....just tell the truth and God will forgive you.
If you have nothing to hide, why not have an audit to show the general public (or in your case the member schools) that the DPL is conducting business per their charter? With all the speculation percolating from this innoccent article, maybe there is something more sinister going on.
Are there checks and balances at the DPL? Is there a separation of duties? Are the meetings open to the public? Are the minutes posted? Who is on the Executive committee? Are they elected? or were they appointed by BJ? The potential for collusion is enhanced if the committee's are appointed. Why did BJ leave? Was there an exit interview? Audits should answer all of these questions.
Sleep better at night (in your own beds).....hire a CPA firm. Enron did.....that worked out well for the attorney's.
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john 11/07/2007 3:39:00 AM
everyone in here that has to say something negative about a man who gives so much, and has been nothing but good to all the kids he has ever coached.you are all idiots and need to get over your selves and find something better to do than send anonymous negative comments to a man that most of you have probably never met in the first place. If your going to say something you should at least man up and state your name rather than drag this mans name in the dirt under BS names.
get lives. this is pathetic
there is more important things in life than youth football.
You should probably concern yourself more with the pedifile priest molesting young children.
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Insider 11/07/2007 2:28:00 AM
C'mon, Mr. Holy Guacamole. What are your sources for the embezzlement claim? You are completely anonymous here. What proof do you have? Is this a rumor you heard? Someone told you this? What is his/her position of knowledge? Have you gone to the authorities with this?
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Holy Guacamole 11/06/2007 11:17:00 PM
Holy guacamole, we're out of values.
All you DPL supporters need to request an audit. See how your dollars are being spent. If the DPL is so great...why did BJ leave? Follow the money.
DPL Supporter (post #66) - you state "many schools have had similar circumstances occur.....the only difference is those schools handled the issue in the spirit and integrity in which this league is meant to be run." The other difference is Principal Bacot and your children attend St. Mark. You are the problem. Your failure to address the real issues is the reason these situations continue to spiral out of control.
Been There (post #85) These issues are not black and white. They are right and wrong. Maybe you can be part of the solution by your actions. Stand up. Take a position. Make a difference. Or continue to cower behind your wife's skirt.
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Lazy Sleuth 11/06/2007 9:15:00 PM
First, to LOL. Interesting stuff. None of it relevant, of course, and most of it likely fiction or selective in its account so as to promote an agenda. Don't know and don't care. The only thing that matters is that Keane cheated, he got caught, was disciplined and then behaved like a 6 year old. Tantrums are to be expected from small children. Adults are another matter.
As for Been There, we feel your pain. The rest of us in the Diocese know that the overwhelming majority of folks at St. Mark's are good people and are nothing like Kevin Keane. One bad apple (or a few bad apples) does not spoil the whole bunch. Hang in there.
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Matthew 11/06/2007 8:44:00 PM
This is insane. To allow a parent to get as far as Mr. Keane was able to get without being restrained is insulting. This goes to show that if you have money, you can buy anything or anyone, including the Superintendent of Catholic Schools. Sad, sad, sad.
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Been There 11/06/2007 8:44:00 PM
LOL - and everyone else. The last time line comment much like the article itself does not delve into the reasons the decisions were made. I was there in the bginning 10 years ago and personnaly witnessed all the events listed. It would take more time than I wish to spend to explain the series of events that led to Kevin not being selected to coach
the 7th grade Bball team. It's safe to say that Camille felt it was best that a non parent coach the team due to numerous issues with the 6th grade team that Kevin coached the year before. As you can see this explanation makes complete sense,unlike the slanted time line of LOL. As I stated before I have personnaly witnessed many positve and negative sides of Kevin. This is obvioulsy not a black & white issue, but very much grey.The school and its many proud parents are being portrayed as non responsive to the issues, when in actuallity in dealing with such a grey area, knowing what is the best decision can be a hard call. At some point, Kevin could have ended this and selected not to. His pride stood in the way, when asked by parents to end the situation. Thus the reputation of a very strong school has been dragged through the mud. Please know that most of the parents at St. Mark have the upmost respect for the DPL and all of the schools associated with it.
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LOL 11/06/2007 6:19:00 PM
Story running out of steam? Maybe you can not see the forest from the trees.
The story line thus far is did Kevin Keane use an inelgible player in a game in September 2005? For the lazy sleuth, that is where the story begins. Why not roll the clock back a little.
Date line - August 2004. The St. Mark football team schedule commences.
October 2004 - the animosity between (Athletic Administrator "AA") Camille Patrick and Kevin Keane begins. It appears to Kevin that Camille is questioning his coaching and accuses him of not following "her" guidelines and philosophies (unwritten). The season appears to be successful on the field for the St. Mark Lions as the DPL gets involved. Seems there may be a misunderstanding regarding videographers, camera operators, etc.
November. Football season concludes and basketball season commences. The animosity between Patrick & Keane escalates. For reason known only to herself, AA Patrick does not select Keane to coach any team. For that matter, none of the 7th grade boys parents are selected to coach. Seven fathers volunteered but, Camille makes the decision to select a non 7th grade parent. This is the only team where available parent/volunteers are not used.
November 11 - Camille sends an email to the 7th Grade Boys Division I team naming the new coach. All others teams are posting within the school.
Novemer 12 - Keane pulls his kids from the basketball team.
November 12 - Keane recinds his decision, the boys would like to play for St. Mark.
November 13 - AA Patrick rejects Keane's request.
Wait....you say, this doesn't make sense? Keane played on the 7th Grade Div I team?
What happened? The St. Mark the Evangelist Parent Student Handbook 2004-2005 clearly states "The Athletic Administrator makes the final decisions concerning athletics and athletic events." The facts get murky here. It appears that the Athletic Committee and Principal Bacot supported AA Patrick to not allow Keane back on the team. It appears that Monsiginor Duffy is the final decision maker here and Parker was placed on the Div I team.
End of November - Early December 2004 - Camille Patrick abrubtly resigns her AA duties. Camille will continue as Assistant Principal. There is no public acknowledgement for the reasons given.
Is this the end?
December 2004 - January 2005. A committee of three replaces former AA Patrick. Turmoil does not adequately describe this period.
Late January - Early February 2005- Camille Patrick is back? It seems that Principal Bacot has not accepted her resignation after all. Questions to Principal Bacot go unanswered. Is St. Mark looking for an athletic director?
March, April, May 2005 - Have things quieted down?
March 2005 - Tension runs high. Seems like there is a renewed interest in the St. Mark Advisory Board meeting. An 8th grade parent and coach addresses the Board concerning matters for improving the athletic policy & procedures. Principal Bacot enters the frey and sits next to an invited attorney / guest.
March - April 2005. Monsignor Duffy leaves St. Mark for medical reasons.
April 2005 - May 2005: Spring is in the air. Romance in flourishing. Is reconciliation far behind? A meeting is held at the school concerning Coach Keane. Camille Patrick is escorted by DPL AD BJ Antes. IT APPEARS that Coach Keane is back. But is he? Again, it appears that Coach Keane will be named Head Coach so long as he signs an agreement prepared by Camille with the knowledge of Mr. Antes. Mr. Keane questions if "all" coaches at St. Mark will sign this document or is this discrimination soley directed at him. Keane signs.
May 2005 - Camille Patrick resigns from St. Mark and accepts a lateral move to St. Monica.
Summer 2005: Rumors commence about the relationship between Camille Patrick and BJ Antes.
September 2005: Coach Keane is suppended from coaching at the request or urging of BJ Antes.
Moral of the story.....do not mess with my girlfriend or you will not coach in the DPL.
Where are they now?
BJ Antes is now divorced. He left the DPL in the Spring of 2007. The DPL record keeping may or may not be under investigation.
The 8th grade parent that addressed the School Advisory Council was not welcome back to St. Mark for the 2005 school year. Seems the pre registration check went uncashed.
Camille Patrick is still employeed by St. Monica as Assistant Principal.
The only questions remining are will Kevin Keane continue to support St. Mark? And when will Principal Suzanne Bacot resign from St. Mark?
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Tired head 11/06/2007 4:53:00 AM
I think it may be time to officially close this blog. Looks like "in the know" has officially lost it - addressing a blog to herself and then asking herself a question. Anybody wanna talk about the Trinity vote tomorrow?
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Completely out of touch 11/06/2007 4:24:00 AM
It seems "in the know" is now having conversations with himself/herself. Not sure if that is weird or just sad.
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d 11/06/2007 3:36:00 AM
Yawn..... this horse has officially been beaten to death.
Suzanne
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JD 11/06/2007 3:31:00 AM
76: Great information, but obviously the people don't want to know the facts, since that would just make them and the DPL look bad. Let them live in their fantasy world of DPL greatness to spread hate, rumors, and lies.
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D 11/06/2007 3:22:00 AM
Get over yourselves people. Everyone of you is entirely too witty and awesome for your own good. Go hug your children and give yourself a pat on the back for being utterly pathetic. The majority of you people probably have no idea about any of this story but you feel the need and an entitlement to spew hate, great examples for your kids. God Bless the Dallas Parochial League and our private schools for failing at instiling Christian values.
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in the know 11/06/2007 2:30:00 AM
Dear In the Know,
Could you possibly be the infamous B.J. Antes? If so, please tell Camille hello for me. Is she still endearing herself to children and parents alike with her sweet and kind disposition, or is it only you she has "charmed the pants off"?!?! Then again, it must not be you because you know that you okayed a list of 6th graders to be placed on the St Mark 5th grade roster at the beginning of the season. HAHAHHAHAHAH - In the Know, you need to be on ESPN, you are such a passionate football fan, and its so much fun to get you going! I guess you and your cronies must be awfully proud of your tactics of blackmailing a bunch of 7th & 8th grade football players and cheerleaders and their volunteer parents. You all need to be voted "Catholics of the Year" for protecting our team from your fictitious version of our football coach at St. Mark. I'll pray for all of you - I don't think God considers self-righteousness and your judgementalism as a virtue.
PS Who's on Monday Night Football tonight? What's the spread? Or maybe you're more into the NHL - New Jersey Devils no doubt.
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Amy 11/05/2007 5:56:00 PM
Comments #69 & 70 are reflective of many emails I've seen in the past from. Caps lock stuck & grammer from 5th grade.
"Also In the Know" has some good points. Regardless of the legitimacy of the 6th grade player who replaced the sick 5th grader, who I find it hard to believe was propped up on the bench to support his team that day, why were the other 5th graders not played? Maybe they could go to BC too, heck, maybe the Patriots even. Now there's a team all too familiar with coach keane's tactics...
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Also in the Know 11/05/2007 3:56:00 PM
In the Know, you might want to quit while you're behind. The 6th grader was on what "roster"? Since you are so obviously "in the know", you almost certainly are aware that the rosters are submitted prior to the start of the season. So, I guess you are telling us that this prodigious 6th grader was on the 5th grade "roster" the entire season. Interesting. Also, in your first entry you indicate that the "DPL AD" approved the participation by the 6th grader. Now, in your second entry, you indicate it was the "AD". Hmmmm. Are you confusing yourself? It certainly wouldn't be surprising that a St. Mark's first year AD would approve just about anything the good Mr. Keane wanted, since it seems Mr. Keane is fairly successful at getting his way around Lion Land. I'll say it again, the DPL AD never approved the participation by the 6th grader. However, I am glad to hear that this talented 6th grader made his way to BC. It obviously did them a lot of good, since they lost to a pretty weak FSU team and are out of the national championship hunt. At least the young man was playing up, which IS permitted, even under DPL rules.
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in the know 11/04/2007 8:01:00 PM
The 6th grader was NOT ineligible - he was on the roster and that was okayed by the AD.
BTW, he is now playing for Boston College because of his middle school "prodigy" years.
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Also in the know 11/04/2007 5:27:00 PM
So, "In the Know", I guess your theory (reading between the lines and allowing for your sarcasm) is that using an ineligible player should not be considered a violation of player participation rules unless the ineligible player actually has a tangible impact on the outcome of the game. Gosh, that would be an easy rule to administer. Go ahead coaches, play all the ineligible players you want, just make sure they don't do too much. Let's all huddle up after each game and see what impact the ineligible players had. Good concept. I'm calling the UIL and the NCAA right now and suggest they adopt that policy also. Ineligible players everywhere will now have their chance to participate (sort of). Brilliant!!!
BTW, the DPL AD never approved the use of the ineligible player as you suggest (even Richie Whitt doesn't make that claim). Further, the opposing school (St. Rita) never approved the use of the ineligible player. Were you "in the know", you would know that.
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in the know 11/04/2007 6:55:00 AM
Re: Coach Keane using his sixth grade center wo win the St. Rita game
It was amazing - the first time in DPL history that a center scored all the points in a football game. He ran, he passed, he snapped the ball and then the q-back handed off to him again for yet another score! St. Rita was baffled - how was this 5th grade center so very talented? No matter, he won the game on his own - no other players needed to be on the field. OOOPPPS - he was a sixth grader who was LEGALLY on the roster per approval of of the DPL AD. What a ringer.
PS... It was the 5th grade center who was sitting on the bench with 101 fever.Coach Keane refused to play him because of his condition. You are all such hypocrites.
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a 11/04/2007 1:59:00 AM
he did do his punishment but still he has to resign because of this bs the kids love him hes a great coach let him do what he does best coach
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AGAINST USING KIDS 11/04/2007 1:26:00 AM
OKay DPL SUpporter so its right to use 7th and 8th grade boys as well as all the cheerleaders as your pawns to get a point across to mr. keane? because you dont approve of him coaching what makes you think you have the right to pick and choose who you play? what does it matter who coaches these boys? mr. keane was cleared to by the dpl to coach this season, he is a role model to these stmark players and is the only coach they want to play for. but none of this matter as long as the strita, stmonicas, and stpats of the leauge get their way right thats all that matter. SUPPORT that....
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Amy 11/04/2007 1:16:00 AM
Kevin Keane had three other choices of 5th grade players to put on the field at the St. Rita's game. He chose to not use his own players, one of which was a center who could replace the sick player. He chose a 6th grader instead so he could win. How did that make the 5th grade boys on the bench feel? Confused and worthless probably, but then again players of that talent level do not matter to Mr. Keane.
Kevin violated his suspension by sending in plays in a variety of ways from the stands, we all witnessed it didn't we folks?
Had he obeyed his suspension he would be coaching.
He digs his own graves and then plays the victim. Time to grow up Kevin, you know the truth buddy~
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Kids First 11/03/2007 7:24:00 PM
"The choice of volunteer coach's for any school is the choice of that school (NOT the DPL Athletic Director or the DPL Exec. Committee)"
EXACTLY!!!! So why do the other schools care? Keane coaches St Mark's children, not St Rita's, not St Monica, etc. The suspension was up. St Mark varsity boys and parents supported Keane. St Mark school supported Keane. Let's move on and everyone take care of their own school. Remember, it's about the kids!!! The players could care less who is on the other side of the field coaching.
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DPL Supporter 11/03/2007 6:58:00 PM
The DPL Exec. Committee voted to uphold the suspension of Keane (not once but TWICE since he violated the terms of the first suspension) that was handed down by the DPL Athletic Director. Upon completion of the second suspension (the 2006-07 school year), the DPL Exec. committee then sent a letter to the St Mark's Administration notifying them of the expiration (end of school term, 2007) of the suspension. There was NO FORMAL REINSTATEMENT OF KEANE by the DPL Exec. Committee or DPL Athletic Director, as Whitt states.
It's a privilege to play in the Dallas Parochial League (not a right). The choice of volunteer coach's for any school is the choice of that school (NOT the DPL Athletic Director or the DPL Exec. Committee). St Mark's chose Keane as a coach and allowed him to continue as a coach (no one else). By the same token, it's also the choice of each school to determine whether they choose to participate against a team/school. In this case many schools (St Rita, SPX, STA, St Monica, St Pat's and others) were prepared to take a stand against the St Mark's administration who refused to handle a rogue coach (Bacot let Cavitt and Park handle it).
St Mark's hosted a mtg. in early October and heard first-hand from Principals and Pastors from these 'boycotting' schools as to why they'd not be playing their school. Less than 48 hours later Keane was no longer coaching for St Mark's.
As stated earlier in the comments, many schools have had similar circumstances occur at their schools, the only difference is those schools handled the issue in the spirit and integrity in which the league is meant to be run. While our league isn't perfect (I don't know one that is), I'd take it over any other league out there.
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BJ, a fitting name 11/03/2007 12:31:00 PM
Blah, Blah, Blah.....
Are we done yet? maybe now Ritchie can write a follow-up article, obviously there is more to this story than the original article covered. Football season is almost over, let's hear about the antics on the basketball court.
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My name is still Dave Carder 11/02/2007 2:59:00 PM
I did not "take a stand either way" for several reasons. I am not going to go onto a public forum and disparage any of the parties involved without doing my own due diligence to verify the facts. I do know Kevin, but not nearly as well as many other people in the St. Mark community. I do not know definitively what the St. Mark administrators, DPL, or any other school administrators did or did not say or do throughout this debacle. I certainly am not going to form my opinion based upon "facts" presented by anonymous posters.
"Drinking the Koolaid" calls me out for not taking a stand while he/she is hiding behind the veil of anonimity? Sorry to disappoint you for not joining the fray and getting down in the mud with the rest of you.
1. State facts.
2. Be prepared to back-up your facts as valid.
3. Form a reasonable conclusion based on ALL the facts, not just the 1 or 2 that seem to suit your predetermined conclusion.
4. Post your name.
This is Journalism 101 stuff. Richie Witt seemed to do this. If you want to challenge any of the facts he presented I am sure he would be more than willing to respond to ou directly on this forum using his REAL NAME as he has already done. If you want to bring other facts to the conversation you feel were omitted, do so, but they must be verifiable. You can not throw out stuff you heard from a friend who heard someone got an email that said X. If you do all of this and you still feel you want to remain anonymous then I guesss I will take 3 out of 4.
#4 is the reason we do not have the kind of accountability with Cathoic leadership at all levels in Dallas. The saying goes generally that people get the government they deserve. Far too many Catholics in Dallas have been anonymous on too many issues for too long. This is just the latest example.
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thirsty for kool aid 11/02/2007 6:43:00 AM
at least "andrew" used his real name, or did he? thanks andrew for your insight.
Mr Carder on the other hand used his real name, but didn't take a stand either way, probably worried if his name is tied to his opinion, someone might hire a PI to dig up dirt on him. be careful.....
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Andrew 11/02/2007 12:41:00 AM
Many of the people that post on this page have never talked to, or even seen Mr. Keane. (besides the picture in this article, or from across the football field)I have played St. Mark football for the last 3 years. Those of you who want to paint Mr. Keane as a man who only cares about winning haven't seen what the players have. At the end of the practices, our coach gathers us together, asks about all our grades, tells us to keep on respecting our teachers, and reminds us if we work our hardest in life we can be successful. In the end, IT WAS MR. ANTES' JOB TO CHECK HIS MESSAGES BEFORE A GAME DAY. IF HE HAD DONE WHAT HE WAS PAID TO DO AND MADE SURE NO TEAMS HAD E-MAILED OR PHONED IN THAT DAY, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS MESS. IF ANYONE SHOULD BE IN TROUBLE SHOULDNT IT BE ANTES FOR NOT DOING WHAT THE DPL PAID HIM TO? also, did you all see the e-mail within the article stating that what coach keane did was within the letter of the law?
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Dave Carder 11/01/2007 7:48:00 PM
I have read the article. I used to have kids at St. Mark. At this point I am not going to comment about the article itself. But I will make a point about this: Richie Witt put his name on the story. He asked the involved parties to comment. Some did, most chose not to. You will find my full name at the bottom of this post just as Richie Witt put his on the article and his post. If you are going to sound off on this at least have the intellectual honesty to state your affiliation(if any) and your name. Those of you who have the strength of your convictions and the position you take should have no problem putting your face to your claim. All others continue to hide anonymously and keep making the rest of the ENTIRE Catholic community look bad. It seems we take after our leadership and are pretty good at this part.
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Dave Carder 11/01/2007 7:47:00 PM
I have read the article. I used to have kids at St. Mark. At this point I am not going to comment about the article itself. But I will make a point about this: Richie Witt put his name on the story. He asked the involved parties to comment. Some did, most chose not to. You will find my full name at the bottom of this post just as Richie Witt put his on the article and his post. If you are going to sound off on this at least have the intellectual honesty to state your affiliation(if any) and your name. Those of you who have the strength of your convictions and the position you take should have no problem putting your face to your claim. All others continue to hide anonymously and keep making the rest of the ENTIRE Catholic community look bad. It seems we take after our leadership and are pretty good at this part.
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bob 11/01/2007 7:18:00 PM
hey Confused Catholic
read the dang article? Are you a moron?
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confused catholic 11/01/2007 7:11:00 PM
this all makes me proud to be a part of DPL and proud to be catholic!
Coach Keane is an big headed parent coach who will do anything including bending the rules for his kids to win at sports? what kind of leader is that?
BJ Antes' wife divorced him because this coach hired a private investigator to dig up dirt on him? what kind of example does this set for our kids
The pricipal of the school, Ms Bacotte, didn't do anything to oversee her school's abuse of league rules? Is that the type of school we want to send our kids to?
Not sure who "Camille" is or what her role was?
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Intelligent by Choice 11/01/2007 4:52:00 PM
Dustin - The name wasn't too tough. Most everybody called my by my initials "IBC". They actually named a root beer after me. Good times.
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Chuck 11/01/2007 9:57:00 AM
Wow, after reading this article, I felt sorry for coach keane, after reading these comments, I feel sorry for all of you? Makes me want to sign up my 3rd grader in a christian based sports program like DPL.
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Augmented Cammy 11/01/2007 12:12:00 AM
I am neither obese nor intelligent, but I may be of assistance.
Why not just change the league name from Dallas Parochial League to Dallas Private League. When you have a league where the truth and religion are dichotomous, just take parochial out of the name and insert private. Simple as that.
To many lies and intentional misinformation to untangle this mess.
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Dustin 10/31/2007 10:40:00 PM
"Instead of hiding behind a pseudonym (that's a fictitious name, in case you were confused), perhaps you can reveal your true identity and we can explore your background."
It must have been tough growing up with a name like "intelligent by choice"
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Intelligent by Choice 10/31/2007 8:05:00 PM
Dear Obese One - Not sure if obesity is a choice, but, in your case, idiocy apparently is (or else its in your genes). A couple of quick points (I'll type slow so you can keep up). First, Camille Patrick was at no time a subordinate of BJ Antes. Check your org chart big fella. The DPL AD does not hire, fire, disclipline or otherwise direct any of the activities of the ADs at the various schools. Those folks are managed at the school level. Second, where do you get off thinking you have the slightest clue as to what precipitated the decision by BJ and his wife to end their marriage and, more importantly, what makes you think it is any of your damn business? Instead of hiding behind a pseudonym (that's a fictitious name, in case you were confused), perhaps you can reveal your true identity and we can explore your background. Mr. Keane can contact his favorite PI and rummage through your trash, etc. He likes that sort of thing. No doubt you will be on the shortlist for consideration for sainthood. Finally, your suggestion that BJ has somehow done harm to students is laughable. I know that facts will likely only confuse you, but perhaps you can take some time to investigate what the DPL looked like back when BJ took over as director and compare it to where the league sits today. The league has expanded so that literally thousands of students in the diocese now participate at all levels, with offerings of sports that were not part of the DPL 6-7 years ago and a dramatic improvement of the quality of the organization and competitive level of most of nthe other sports. The DPL, under BJ's direction, dramatically increased the involvement of the less advantaged schools of our diocese and, in the process, provided opportunities to play sports for hundreds, if not thousands, of kids that otherwise would not have been able to participate in school sports.
Go choose to have a salad and keep your thoughts to yourself unless you actually have something intelligent to say.
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obesity is a choice 10/31/2007 3:27:00 PM
Some may say this is not a DPL issue. I would have to agree.
Anyone with any knowledge of the fact situation would understand that this is a leadership issue. Let's start at the top.
Dallas Diocese - Dr. LeBlanc a leader? Hardly. LeBlanc will speak to the fact that if he likes someone he is more inclined to "help". If you offend Dr. LeBlanc in any way, he will go the extra mile to "inhibit help". BJ Antes violated the morals clause of his contract. Because of his actions his wife saw fit to divorce him. Dr. Leblanc did nothing. BJ Antes is now employeed by Jesuit.
St. Mark School (Plano) - Principal Bacot a leader? If leadership is never admitting fault, then Suzanne may be the leader for you. With 25 years experience as principal at the school, Suzanne is more concerned with her paycheck than the welfare of her students. Suzanne is a believer of the past of least resistence. Why hire the best, when you can hire your daughter or your daughters roommate. Yes, Camiile Patrick may or may not have been qualified, but she sure had connections to get her job. Principal Bacot role model? or roll model? The healing begins at St. Mark after she resigns because Dr. LeBlanc will not intercede.
The DPL and member Athletic Directors. BJ Antes talked the talk. Just like Suzanne Bacot, they can make quite an impression on an audience. Walk the walk, is another story. Sleeping with a subordinate (yes Camille was a subordinate when she was Athletic Director at St. Mark). I find it quite ironic that in a Catholic environment that you judge Kevin Keane in comtempt, and support BJ Antes and the St. Mark Administration. Your actions or inactions just harm the children involved. Just like Bacot and LeBlanc.
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J 10/31/2007 4:59:00 AM
As a reader who's has read most every sports-related dispute in this town from Jason Kidd-Jim Jackson to Jimmy Johnson-Jerry Jones, I have but one response to your one sided and fact less article obviously written to cause controversy: Wow. You should be ashamed. Mr. Whitt, you are not a journalist, you are a fiction writer. Don�t feel too bad though, Mr. Keene has also duped and used many other people before you.
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TT 10/31/2007 3:43:00 AM
Oh Richie... I'm disappointed. No tacky euphemisms in your response.
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Richie Whitt 10/31/2007 3:31:00 AM
As a reporter who's covered most every sports-related dispute in this town from Jason Kidd-Jim Jackson to Jimmy Johnson-Jerry Jones, I have but one response to all this immature and insidious back-stabbing and in-fighting: Wow. You all should be ashamed.
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R 10/31/2007 3:20:00 AM
M -
Please know that many of the people making "horrible" comments in reference to Mr. Keane know him well - IN FACT VERY WELL. (all caps - just for Kevin!)
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Rita Dad 10/31/2007 2:29:00 AM
Hey A - I like Rita moms. Like Lion moms, too, for that matter. Climb back in your hole, A.
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J 10/31/2007 2:14:00 AM
If there is one good thing to come from all of this nonsense, it is that the Catholic communities at St. Rita, SPX, St. Monica, St. Thomas, CKS, St. Pat's, Bishop Dunne, POP, St. Bernard's, etc., etc., etc., are united and now closer than perhaps they have ever been. All thanks to one knucklehead. God does have a plan for us and it is good.
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Scooter 10/31/2007 2:06:00 AM
M - We all understand your confusion, but the issue is not Mr. Keane's decision to violate a rule several years ago. I think we all can probably agree that it was a relatively minor incident. Rather, the issue is the way he chose to react to the decision of the DPL to impose a consequence for his decision. I suspect your parents have taught you that choices have consequences. Mr. Keane did not feel he should be accountable for what he did, that his actions should not have consequences. So, he unleashed nothing less than a reign of terror on some very good people to try to intimidate them. That is what is of the greatest concern. Had he acted in a mature way, like you likely would have, he would be coaching his kids today. Perhaps if anything good can come from this, it is that young people such as yourself can learn how not to behave when faced with being held accountable for the decisions you make.
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M 10/31/2007 1:10:00 AM
How can all of you people against Coach Keane even say such horrible things and judge him, if you don't even know him?! Christ says to love your neighbor as yourself. Coach Keane made one small mistake, which wasn't even a real mistake, in putting in an extra boy on the 5th grade football team however many years ago, and shouldn't two years punishment be enough? Christ also says to forgive your neighbor not seven times, not seventy times, but seventy times seven times. I'm pretty sure that Coach Keane should be forgiven now, especially since he commited such a small "crime". I'm only a teenager, but I have a strong faith and I know what's right and wrong. This whole thing is wrong.
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THIRSTY FOR KOOL AID 10/30/2007 11:13:00 PM
Listen, maybe it needs to be spelled out that a lot of the comments that seem to be coming from St. Rita, etc. are actually from within the "abode of Satan." Many of us like St. Rita's Kool Aid just fine! Nobody in this forum has all the facts and neither did the author of the article. So it makes it hard to know exactly what has happened. The issue that keeps popping up though is not really about the suspension and the lifting of it from the DPL board (which was probably not a good idea) because we get that he served his time but not well...., the issue that everyone seems to like to talk about is that some people are just simply not good ROLE MODELS for children, (good coach or not). Sounds if BJ gave a damn about Kevin anymore and I'm glad he's moved on, he could shed some interesting light on the character of a man who'd spend money to dig up dirt on him and falsely slander his name. See, nobody even needs to spend any money to dig up dirt on the Devil who wears snappy sandals.
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Gabby 10/30/2007 9:51:00 PM
Hey Mr. A? Why is it Coach Keane's suspension is a personal issue, but hiring a PI to drag up "dirt" on the DPL administrators is the "public's right to know"???? This is double standard at its best!
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A 10/30/2007 9:45:00 PM
Dear Lion Mom:
You have been drinking too much of the DPL Kool Aid. Maybe you should change your title to St. Rita Mom.
A
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LionMom 10/30/2007 9:12:00 PM
Keane was handed the lengthy suspension because he violated the terms of his initial suspension for playing the ineligible player. He is a documented repeat offender of DPL rules. Did he take his suspension like a man, own up to his guilt, and show an ounce or remorse? No, he hired a private investigator to dig up dirt on BJ in an effort to discredit him or get him fired. Why? Revenge. Why did Keane take his story to the Observer? Revenge.
The sad part of this story is not the looney coach with the over sized opinion of himself. There will always be those types, and administrators will have to deal with them appropriately. The sad part of this is that our principal, Suzanne Bacot, and Dr Leblanc consorted with Keane in the blackmail plan to oust the DPL executive director and these two still have their jobs.
Camille, not everyone in the St Mark community thinks that a witch hunt to eradicate the diocese of illicit heterosexual behavior in the privacy of ones own home is such a top priority.
�A�, thanks for the warning to �keep looking over your shoulder�. No telling what Keane will do next for revenge.
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A 10/30/2007 8:56:00 PM
This argument is so way off point that the real issue is missed. Coach Keane was suspended for 2 years whether it was justified or not. Coach Keane did not coach for 2 years. His suspension was lifted by the DLP committee and he was reinstated as Varsity Football Coach for the 2007 season. The DPL committee and/or the administration of a number of schools decided that they knew what was best for the DPL and St. Mark's football program. They instigated the boycott of St. Mark's Varsity football games if Mr. Keane was coach.
We did not like the 2 year suspension of Coach Keane but bottom line, he did not coach for 2 years. What gives St. Rita, et. al. the right to assume what is in the best interest of the DPL and St. Mark's football program? It was a personal issue, plain and simple. I wonder if these "Moral High Ground" schools would have forfeited playoff spots if Coach Keane had taken the field. Bet not!
A.
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LionMom 10/30/2007 7:52:00 PM
Hey, Mr. WWJD. Don't be a bonehead. Keane claims in the article that the other schools came after him personally because he turned the St Marks football program into such a juggernaut. "After that (first successful season)," Keane says, "they were out to get me."
Willie said that the results on the FIELD were irrelevant, not the kids. To answer your own question, YES, you did misread it.
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confused 10/30/2007 6:54:00 PM
is this about cheating in a football game or not following rules in life? What example are we setting for our kids?
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DP 10/30/2007 6:50:00 PM
I've seen Kevin Keane bring the best out of an athlete and have also seen him completely detroy the self confidence of less experienced players. But this isn't a forum of whether Kevin Keane is a good coach or not, but more about the morals and ethics of Kevin (the team representative) and his inability to abide by rules and structure. He is above the law, and we should all support the ruling of the league officials without letting personal character play with our emotions.
Plain and simple, Coach Keane bent the rules to his advantage, truely believes he did nothing wrong, the DPL saw things differently and Keane should pay the penalty and move on.
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Tonya 10/30/2007 1:26:00 PM
My kids LOVE coach Keane! He is a wonderful, generous man that gives more to charity than anyone knows. He is always upbeat and refreshing to be around, even with DPL constantly tearing him down. I hope everyone can move beyond this and let Coach Keane do what he knows best - coach our kids!
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KK 10/30/2007 1:16:00 PM
I know you are, but what am I?
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STM 10/30/2007 12:38:00 PM
In Keane's mind, he did not do anything wrong, he does not believe he played an illegal player, he does not understand he was suspended for cause, he does not realize how he builds up some kids and tears down the confidence of classmates stading next to them.
The problem is Keane lives in his own world where it is o.k. to do what ever you need to serve your own needs! Anything from bending rule to cutting in line in order to self serve his own goals.
In his mind "no rules were broken", so how could a man with this better-than-the-rest-of-you attitude accept a consequence? Move on Mr. Keane!
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John 10/30/2007 5:19:00 AM
I have read the story and the comments by your readers. There is one important fact that is missing from the story and the comments. There is precident for the punishment that was handed out to Mr. Keane. In years past, a coach at St. Monica was suspended for the remainder of the school year for playing an illegal player in a basketball game. Like Mr. Keane, this coach appealed his suspension to the Athletic Committee of the DPL. Like Mr. Keane this coach's appeal was denied and the suspension was upheld. Unlike Mr. Keane, this coach sat out his year long suspension and was reinstated the next year by the DPL to coach 1 sport for each of his children as the head coach and then as the assistant for any other sport they played that year. What is the difference between these two cases?? Maybe the fact that one coach realized that every action has a consequence. I am sure it was a bitter pill for him to swallow but he played an illegal player in his basketball game and had to suffer the consequence. Mr. Keane did the same thing and should have been given the same punishment. Afterall, no one person is above the rules regardless of their so called good intentions. All he had to do was sit out the year and he would be back coaching today. Some would have liked it and some wouldn't. But boycotting Mr. Keane and St. Mark's would not have been an issue because he would have honored his suspension and moved on. Enough said...let's move on and watch the kids play and have fun....
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Rachel 10/30/2007 4:45:00 AM
I can't wait for the Keanes to move to Love Joy schools......
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Bill 10/30/2007 2:38:00 AM
"Following DPL protocol, Keane notified first-year St. Mark AD Frederick Cavitt of his intentions before the game. Cavitt approved, and a call was made and an e-mail sent to DPL AD B.J. Antes at 9:43 a.m., hours before the 1 p.m. kickoff. Antes, now a fund-raiser and swim coach at Jesuit who last week refused comment, either somehow failed to get the notifications or inexplicably ignored them."
-It seems if anyone did anything wrong is was this Cavitt person or perhaps the person who chooses to ignore and/or pretend to have not received an email. Forgiveness must not be taught in Dallas Parochial schools these days, although after reading the article i cant seem to find anything this Coach did that even warranted an apology. This excessive hypocrisy and pretentiousness is why i chose to remove my children from Catholic school.
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WWJD 10/30/2007 2:16:00 AM
As a football fan and dallas observer reader i must say, If the DPL were a league of rules then there would never have been a problem in the first place. After reading the article and out of curiosity reading the DPL handbook, i find it interesting that NO RULES WERE EVER BROKEN BY ST. MARKS. The only broken rules seem to be by several of the other schools by ignoring "committee decisions." Did i read the article wrong or was this Coach reinstated by committee prior to the season? It seems other schools in the league played games without incident against St. Marks??? Did i misread that??? But more importantly, Did you actually just belittle the children of St. Marks by calling them "virtually irrelevant." Holy sh$@% my friend, what kind of godless "christian" would say something like that, this article is about the hypocrisy in youth sports, remember the purpose of youth sports is to teach life lessons like GOOD sportsmanship, cooperation, and teamwork. It seems from the article and the comments that this is precisely what their coach was teaching them. But its okay, at least you can wake up in the morning and be loved because your youth program is "relevant" on the field. GIVE ME A BREAK. Come on, the DPL is a joke, all of the programs are irrelevant. Aren't you people supposed to ask WWJD???? In addition, i just went to the DPL site and noticed a something interesting, a pattern of routes and blow-out victories, is this something that is encourage by the DPL??? Apparently so, i guess those relevant powerhouse teams can do no wrong. Touchdown Jesus would not be impressed by the actions of the DPL.
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g 10/30/2007 2:05:00 AM
1. BJ is a scumbbag
2. the DPL is a joke compared to other leagues in the nation
3. where does someone go off talking about this mans personal life and his business where do those facts come from?
please explain.
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Willie 10/29/2007 8:37:00 PM
After reading this rather silly piece of "journalism" courtesy of Richie Witt, it's easy to see why his byline no longers appears in the Star Telegram, but rather such a fine publication as the Observer. Apparently journalistic integrity was not the objective of this article. The issue is actually rather simple. Kevin Keane was disciplined because he knowingly violated DPL rules. Problem is, Kevin Keane didn't want to play by the rules, unless they were his rules. You see, Kevin is special. So, his response was to threaten, bully, coerce, hire a private investigator and otherwise engage in behavior noone would confuse with being Christian. His complete disregard for rules and procedures and the endorsement of his behavior by his AD and principal (Can anyone say "puppets"? I thought you could.) are the reasons virtually every other school in the diocese took exception. Schools did not rise up against Keane and his cronies at St. Mark's because of any on-the-field success he might have had. St. Mark's has failed to even qualify for the playoffs at the varsity level in football 6 of the last 7 years, much less threaten any of the so-called traditional powerhouses. They are virtually irrelevant on the field. Rather, schools rose up against Keane and St. Mark's because the DPL is a league of rules. The DPL has become one of the most succesful youth sports leagues in the nation (mostly under the leadership of BJ Antes and Theresa Mossmeyer) precisely because the rules were uniformly and fairly enforced, regardless of what school or individual might be affected. A rogue coach and school who felt themselves above the law prompted schools to unite to isolate them. The good news is that Keane is finally out of the league. The DPL is better off and, almost certainly, St. Mark's is better off. Keane can buy all the puff pieces from hack "journalists" that he wants, but, at the end of the day, he is now nothing more than a former coach, and that is all that he should ever be.
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Lucas 10/29/2007 7:53:00 PM
Kevin Keene has made a habit of bending and ignoring rules for anything he is involved with (i.e. work and play). He has regularly employed illegal aliens and neglected to pay them. The man is a liar and thief. Too bad the Dallas Observer has allowed themselves to get involved in his vendetta against the DPL. The Dallas Observer shold have spoken with some of the parents of the other team, to get both sides of the story.
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A 10/29/2007 6:38:00 PM
Now that the season is over for the St. Mark varsity, it is time to move on. Move on with the understanding that there is no one in a position of authority in the DPL that is willing to do the right thing by the kids. We at St. Mark should also move on with the knowledge that our own school administration does not have the courage to stand up for one of the volunteer parents that donates time and money to the school and particularly to the children of the school against the whiney, self serving, holier than thou parents and administrators from St. Rita, St. Patrick, SPX, St. Monica, Christ the King and any of the others that participated in this farse of a season. Our administrators were eager to jump at the chance to accept Coach Keane's resignation to apease the other schools and avoid any further confrontation. I am sad for our school under such leadership.
As for the other schools, I am sure that you are smug in your victory. You all deserve each other. Live happily ever after, but keep looking over your shoulder!
A.
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D 10/29/2007 1:47:00 PM
15 minutes are up! Move on. 8th grade football-Good, Adults-bad
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EH 10/28/2007 6:29:00 PM
How many schools threatened to boycott?.......the srticle mentions 2........Why not let the 2, (we're taking our ball and going home) schools, take their forfeits/losses and play out the schedule....What makes these 2 schools different than the others schools that put theirs kids interest in front of their own and decided to play the schedule as printed and to respect DPL's decision to reinstate Kevin as a coach?...Why did these 2 schools decide that the DPL imposed sanctions wer're harsh enough and then decide that they were going to stick it to Kevin on their own?
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Proud Lion 10/28/2007 6:28:00 PM
For those of you not from St. Mark, I ask that as you read this forum where a few recalcitrant people are expressing their frustration, to understand, that in my informed opinion and despite the deriding that subsequent posts might deliver, the vocal minority is not speaking for and should not claim to be speaking for the greater St. Mark community.
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g 10/28/2007 5:53:00 PM
im am sure there is a 5th grade league and a 6th grade league so whoever thinks coach keane is making kids feel bad over splitting them in to differnt teams good and not good needs to get there facts straight
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Pat 10/28/2007 5:45:00 PM
Would have liked to have seen comments from St. Mark administrators on why they chose not to lift a finger in defense of one of their parent coaches. An arguably hard punishment was served, yet when faced with threats of "we'll take our ball and go home" from a majority of the leagues schools, Mr. Keane was hung out to dry by his own school's administrators.
As Mr. Keane admits, he's certainly not a saint and many times comes off as brash or cocky, but he served the imposed penalty and yet that wasn't good enough for the opposing schools. As someone who has had children playing in the DPL for a number of years, being brash or cocky is obviously not a crime, because I've seen it on display quite often on the benches of most all of the schools mentioned in the article, no matter what the sport. In the end, Kevin Keane was the only person in this ridiculously petty chain of events that put his own ego to the side and put the needs of the kids first. Not one of the "boycotting" schools coaches or administrators can say that. What a shame for a body of supposedly "Christian" schools to have individuals in positions of power that set such poor examples of Christian leadership.
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bob 10/28/2007 5:34:00 PM
bj thats a fitting name