White Rock Lake Neighbors Want to Know Whose Bright Idea It Was to Install Lights

After moving into his new contemporary home on a bluff overlooking White Rock Lake, Chip Northrup was riding his bicycle when he noticed 20-foot-tall light poles sprouting on the west side of the park.

The closely planted poles triggered alarm bells in his head.

As a former member of the White Rock Task Force, which in 2005 considered installing security lights around the lake's 9.5-mile perimeter, Northrup thought the idea had been dropped.

In addition to 46 lights now being installed on the west-side parking lots, 90-100 will be planted around the lake in the next two years.

"This is a nature preserve," says Northrup, who lives in the Peninsula neighborhood. "The police were not asking for it. The park board didn't have the budget to pay for the electricity to run the damn things. I thought it was a dead issue. When I left [the task force], there would be some lights on critical areas only, such as parking lots."

The project was spearheaded by the White Rock Lake Foundation; board member Susan Falvo says the impetus was safety.

"The lake is very safe," Falvo says. "This is strictly something to make sure we are proactive on security before there is a problem."

Northrup calls the project pointless and says the proposed "security lights" will cause light pollution and won't increase safety.

"There's no statistical evidence there's a lot of crime committed on the lake," he says. "Show me the body count from the lake last year. I think it's zero. The only argument for security and safety is on the lots."

Northrup was surprised to discover that without any polling of the public or meetings with neighborhood associations, an expanded lighting project went into the park department's master plan for White Rock Lake.

Richard Stauffer, parks department project manager, says that 46 lights are now being installed at five parking lots off West Lawther Drive and down by the old pump house. The 150-watt lights are specially designed for White Rock Lake, with spun-concrete poles and acorn-shaped fixtures. Each costs $6,120. Where they will be placed is still being decided.

"It's dependent on location and getting service to them," Stauffer says. "We have to extend service with TXU to get power to the location."

The first phase includes money for repairs to the spillway, at a cost of about $400,000 from the 2003 and 2006 city bond issues. The next phase will put 90-100 lights in east-side lots and dark areas on the trail; these security lights will be paid for by about $400,000 in funds from the November 2009 bond program.

"They are intended for portions of the trail that need security lights on the east side where the trails go through the woods and security might be a concern," says Willis Winters, assistant director of the parks and recreation department. "The park staff has walked the trail with the Dallas Police Department as to where the lights should be placed. I don't know if 100 lights will address the needs at White Rock Lake. There are still a lot of parking lots on the east side."

The lights shed a "golden white color that renders in the earth-tone colors" matching the native stone and landscaping, Stauffer says.

Northrup calls their "dirty orange glow" ugly.

"These are the standard orange crime lights used in many secondary street fixtures," Northrup says. "They cost less to buy, last longer and use less current. The lake is going to look like a maximum security prison at night. This will effectively ruin night views on both sides of the lake."

Northrup says that during task force meetings the project was pushed by a sales consultant for Hossley Lighting, not Dallas police.

"He was at every meeting with slide presentations and all," Northrup says. "If someone had an objection, he'd stand up and defend it. So this is not a comprehensive plan so much as a good sales job."

Realtor Janice Parsons, who also lives in Peninsula, fears that the lights will attract more visitors to the park after nightfall by "insinuating" safety.

"Is that really what we want to do?" Parsons says. "So far, the park has been a pretty safe place. What will people do at the park at night?"

Midnight jogging, anyone?

Most crime at the lake involves daytime burglary of motor vehicles, Winters says. The lake is also known as a gay hangout. "We're just trying to keep illicit activity out of the parking lots. Most of the parking lots throughout the [parks] system harbor illicit activities."

Falvo says that the parks department and police asked the White Rock Lake Foundation, a nonprofit group, to look at the lighting issue.

But in a 2005 story in The Advocate, a neighborhood monthly, Falvo said that no money existed in the park budget for lighting and the group was coming up with a strategy to "add light fixtures to trails, at the dock and pier, and parking lots."

She pledged that the group would "privately" raise up to $1 million for the lights.

Instead, the project was written into the park master plan, with a few making decisions for the many.

"There are a lot of people who didn't want lights," says a longtime lake advocate, who asked not to be named. "They never went to the public. The task force is a small group of people from various neighborhoods [set up] to give opinions. But people don't make all the meetings. It's a casual thing. The foundation just did it."

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  • Chip Northrup 02/26/2009 4:34:00 AM

    UPDATE - Lighting Task Force voted to reject trail lights around the lake as obtrusive to the park's ambience and a potential liability - since trails would not be patrolled at night. Details here = http://www.ladycdesign.com/WRL

  • Chip Northrup 02/26/2009 4:34:00 AM

    UPDATE - Lighting Task Force voted to reject trail lights around the lake as obtrusive to the park's ambience and a potential liability - since trails would not be patrolled at night. Details here = http://www.ladycdesign.com/WRL

  • chip northrup 05/27/2008 7:01:00 PM

    Follow the blogs on this - and sign up for Sheffie Kadane's committee http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2008/05/bad_lights_at_white_rock.php http://www.dallas.org/node/423 http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/may/06/providing-context-white-rock-lake-crime-lights-pro/

  • chip northrup 05/24/2008 2:40:00 PM

    Last comment expresses a concern of most people at the meeting There was clearly considerable sentiment for not turning the lake into a "theme park" Meaning don't overdue the paving, the lights, the statuary, etc. Keep it simple, keep it accessible, safe and natural. Parks needs to start showing what ad hoc "features" is is planning for the park - like the "Spillway Light Show", etc. Before another snafu like the light show on W Lawther

  • Catherine Holt 05/23/2008 5:31:00 PM

    I first want to say that the meeting went well and did address the issues of the environmental and light pollution impact on White Rock Lake. I truly feel that the parks department as well as the engineers did not go any further in thought than what was drawn on their plans. There has not been any environmental studies done and the city does not do such studies as of this point when making such decisions. The Spillway project has been planned the same way without any thought on the environmental impact on White Rock Lake. Kadane did agree that the amount of lights were to many and will form a Steering Committee to address both issues. Perhaps with this in place there might be a combined plan that will satisfy all parties without having any negative impact the fragile balance of White Rock Lake. Just a quick note: The White Rock Master Plan has a bond amount of 70 million dollars. That does make one wonder what will the finished Bond Project will look like with the already careless decisions the city has made thus far.

  • Catherine Holt 05/23/2008 5:20:00 PM

    I first want to say that the meeting went well and did address the issues of the environmental and light pollution impact on White Rock Lake. I truly feel that the parks department as well as the engineers did not go any further in thought than what was drawn on their plans. There has not been any environmental studies done and the city does not do such studies as of this point when making such decisions. The Spillway project has been planned the same way without any thought on the environmental impact on White Rock Lake. Kadane did agree that the amount of lights were to many and will form a Steering Committee to address both issues. Perhaps with this in place there might be a combined plan that will satisfy all parties without having any negative impact the fragile balance of White Rock Lake. Just a quick note: The White Rock Master Plan has a bond amount of 70 million dollars. That does make one wonder what will the finished Bond Project will look like with the already careless decisions the city has made thus far.

  • chip northrup 05/23/2008 5:07:00 PM

    Of the 100 that were at the meeting, overwhelming opposition to what was transparently a good sales job by a lighting vendor All TV stations, most press The DPD could not justify the lights based on "security" In fact they said it would not make the lake more secure. See the blog on this http://www.dallas.org/node/423 Studies presented that indicated lights don't reduce crime - http://amper.ped.muni.cz/light/crime/lp040_1h.html Parks admitted there is no "ordinance" that requires these lights Demo of lights at Fisher Road load clearly showed they glare across the lake - like a motel parking lot Because the fixtures are not "down lights", they are the wrong color, so they pollute - big time. If you want to get involved in the "revised plan" - to use the lights somewhere else - contact Sheffie Kadane sheffield.kadane@dallascityhall.com - and tell a friend

  • Dale Greer 05/23/2008 5:36:00 AM

    I live a couple of miles from the lake, and enjoy visiting it often. One thing that's beautiful about it is the absence of lighting. There's nothing quite as beautiful and quiet as a mild, dark night on the lake. In fact, there's plenty of light from the houses rimming the lake, more than enough to see anything you'd want to see there. City folks need a place to go to get away from lighting at night. If you don't appreciate the darkness, there are plenty of places to go in Dallas that have obnoxious lighting at night. One thing I really hate about the current plan is the old-timey style chosen. These are the absolute worst kind of lights for any natural setting because they project so much light up into the clouds, and the ugliest that you could possibly choose for any setting because most of the light from them is glare, which serves to shut down the iris of the eye so it's harder to see in the shadows. At least the lights on the foot/bike bridge near Mockingbird are sky friendly. If there's an organization formed to resist excessive lighting at White Rock Lake, I'd like to join that.

  • chip northrup 05/21/2008 8:02:00 PM

    No one that comes to the lake wants it to look like a string of motel parking lots at night. No walker, no stroller, no biker, no jogger. So Park Dept is going to rethink the plan And have an alternative by Thursday night.

  • WiseUp 05/20/2008 3:45:00 PM

    Waaah, spoiled rich people cry like little babies when they don't get "their way". It's a PUBLIC place, and if you don't want lights there, don't live near PUBLIC PLACES IDIOTS.

  • Jason 05/19/2008 7:28:00 PM

    I run, bike, and live at White Rock Lake, and especially as the days get shorter, run at night. While it is not an inviting proposition for most to run in the dark by themselves, I enjoy it and appreciate running by moonlight and acknowledging the other runners venturing in the dark. Adding light is unlikely to eliminate the threats and will detract from the lake's aesthetic.

  • chip Northrup 05/17/2008 8:18:00 PM

    Anyone can use the park now at night - up until park curfew at midnight Plenty of ambient light already. Some parts of the park are over-lit at night = T&P Hill , Bath House, etc. Bicyclists are required by state law to carry lights. Pedestrians and jogger can do the same Carrying a light equals zero light pollution - at no cost to the taxpayers. Fixtures proposed by Parks are "acorn" style - intended for urban street corners = to light up the street They put all their light out horizontally = not down So exactly the wrong fixture for a lakeside parking lot. Not 150+ crime lights left on all night - past curfew - for nothing. Park curfew is at midnight, so a complete waste after that - and Parks does not turn off the existing light.

  • Greg Shelton 05/16/2008 10:11:00 PM

    Fact is this park is paid for by all the citizens of Dallas and some of us only have time at night and weekends to use the park. It is not fair to ask us to pay for a major Dallas park and then have our ability to use it curtailed by a minority of people who live near by and can easily use it any time they choose. Agree no one wants light pollution put up appropriate lighting but light our trail so we can use it.

  • CHip Northrup 05/06/2008 4:45:00 AM

    Planning at White Rock Lake Park might be described as "feudal" - meaning each interest group has their own "fiefdom" - and they often feud. So they tend to go off on tangents of their own - loosely within the context of an antiquated "master plan". The White Rock Lake Task Force was established to oversee such proposals and make recommendations to the Park Board. Some years ago, White Rock Lake Foundation (WRLF) proposed putting lights around the lakefront to the Task Force. Obviously the park requires some unobtrusive lighting - at the entrance to parking lots, etc. - as anticipated in the "master plan". The City did not want to pay for it - neither the light poles nor the cost of the utilities. Members of the Task Force panned the proposal - based on the aesthetics and the lack of evidence that it would reduce crime. So WRLF took it upon themselves to raise the money and do it themselves - as quoted in the Advocate, February 2005 = http://www.advocatemag.com/uploads/pdf/ED_02_05.pdf?PHPSESSID=4ca1bc9ba447bbbdea7ee86fb05761b6 WRLF was unable to raise funds for its pet project = http://www.whiterocklakefoundation.org/lighting.html (Their website shows a rendering of light poles during the day . . . which is not the issue ) So WRLF got Parks to find money in the spillway repair project and got an earmark in a bond issue. Hossley Lighting Associates was brought in as a "consultant" by WRLF and Parks - to design the plan http://www.hlalighting.com/ And the final plan was done by Hossley, WRLF, Parks (Willis Winters), and a DPD patrol officer. Only Hossley knows anything about lighting - the WRLF are laymen, Willis Winters is an architect, and the DPD officer was a beat cop. Parks and WRLF rubber stamped the final plan - with no input from the neighbors or neighborhoods. And the contractor started putting in the light poles - until the neighbors started to notice. The cover story on this escapade is "security". From a security standpoint, the need this much lakeside lighting has never been demonstrated. What we have instead are anecdotal comments - that this is a "proactive preventative measure" Most crime in the park is burglary of motor vehicles - during the day Lighting lake front lots won't prevent that. They will just enable burglars to see into parked cars - and burglarize them at night. Lakeside lighting will attract more people to the park after the midnight curfew - to loiter and commit crimes. So on balance, over-lighting the lake shore could make crime go up in the park - not down. Security cameras would be a better deterrent - they work day and night. And won't make the lakeside look like a string of motels at night.

  • Eleanor E. Crockett 05/05/2008 10:23:00 PM

    I recently returned to north texas after forty years in the hill country, and I want to share my fantasy/memory of White Rock Lake from the days of my childhood when I visited my grandparents in Dallas. The place to go for ice cream was Ashburn's, and it was the only place I could always get raspberry sherbet. White Rock Lake was a small park with golf course and dance pavilion where nearby residents could dance with their sweethearts after sunset. There were about 50 incandescent household lightbulbs to light up the pavilion, and space for about 50 cars to park. It had the atmosphere of a country club, and was a very pleasant place to be in the summertime. What is the problem with urban developers who all seem to believe that all public facilities must accommodate the entire population of a city? That makes everything megahuge, and not particularly inviting to any. White Rock Lake and many other neighborhood places should be scaled down, not up. They have been overbuilt already. Dallasites should start thinking of their parks again as 'country clubs' for nearby residents, and stop worrying about crime, and stop criminalizing the environment.

  • Paul Woodfield 05/03/2008 11:42:00 PM

    I wonder if the City has done an enviromental impact study on who it will effect migratory bird habitat, night herons (which hunt at night), etc.

  • Keith Nichols 05/03/2008 6:23:00 PM

    Is White Rock Lake turning into a 24-hours-a-day running facility? Do the planners believe that the lake will be safer at night if we can eliminate the dark and thereby attract enough people to run the track at night? Several years ago, gates were installed on the parking lots. The gates were supposed to be closed and padlocked between about 7 p.m. and 7 a.m. every day to discourage use of the park after dark. The gates were seldom closed, so we don't know how effective they would have been. Certainly, the number of newly dropped beer bottles to be found every morning didn't seem to diminish. Then automobile barriers were scattered along the road on the east side of the lake to discourage weekend traffic through there, especially at night. That seems to have worked. But now the philosophy seems to have changed. This wide, hardtop runway is being laid down all along the west side, and apparently a streetlight is to illuminate the surface every 100 feet or so. If the job of city parks is to provide escape from the city's overdevelopment, perhaps all the paving and lighting need to be rethought a little bit.

  • wick olson 05/01/2008 2:41:00 AM

    A story about light poles? At least Julie Lyons had the good sense to go out to the pasture on her own. Time to send the other Gray Mare out. Bring back Grimes. Bring back Grimes. Bring back Grimes.

 

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