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Gary 07/31/2009 5:17:00 PM
What we are dealing with here is not a question of taste or tact but simply a violation of these peoples rights to have sex with other in the privacy of their own home. You may not agree with their actions and thats your right but what we have here is a witch hunt because the town officials don't agree with their actions. I support his right to engauge in acts within the privacy of his own home. Without diversity, our culture will decay. Political perspectives from the left and right must both be expressed, if we really want voters to make rational decisions. This is not popular thought among the polarized people who think there is only one way to think. Fortunately, where I live anyway, I am free to question those who won't tolerate any perspective but their own. So good luck to theswingers in Tx
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Jess 12/10/2008 6:23:00 AM
There�s a really funny chapter in Harmon Leon�s new book on swingers. The book is called, The American Dream. In the book he sets out to live the American Dream by walking in many different subculture�s shoes, such as pot farmers, carnies, bible-bangers, arms dealers. But the best chapter is the one on swingers. I�d highly recommend reading the book.
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Jeff 12/04/2008 8:25:00 AM
What a waste of people's tax money and time...Who cares what a bunch of people do in the privacy of their own home? They are trying to make examples, but they are being ignorant of the fact that swinging goes on in EVERY major city, and closing down a small house-party does nothing but draw attention to the matter (even bad publicity is good publicity) and waste a bunch of money...
Shame on you City of Duncanville...grow up. Not everyone eats from the same dish.
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ShanghaiJohnnyP 10/26/2008 1:22:00 AM
Oh For Pete's Sake!!First,A Woman In Burleson Is arrested For Having a Sex Toy Party In Her Residence,Then A Bunch Of"Swingers"in Burleson Are arrested!!
For The Love of Money,Don't People in The Exurbs in The DFW Area Have More Important Things To Worry About Than What Consenting Adults Do Behind Closed Doors???!
Granted,The Cherry Pit Isn't a Place I Care To Visit!!From What I've Seen on TV,It Looks Like a Cross Between a VD Clinic and a Flophouse Hotel!!!
You Know,It's Kinda Funny How The Same Folks Who Holler About How"We Want The Government Out Of Our Lives!!"are The Same Ones Who Are"Shocked!!Simply Shocked!!"To Find Out That People Are Having Sex Outside of Marriage!!!
Then,It's Katy Bar The Door!!!How Dare They Commit Adultery!!
Now,Don't Get Me Wrong,I've Never Been Too Crazy About Having Sex With Someone Else's Wife/Girlfriend/Significant Other!!
And,Without Sounding To Sound Like A Bible Thumper,I Do Beleive In Being Faithful and Loyal To The One You Love!!
But The Big Difference Is That I Don't Beleive In Beating People Over The Head Over It!!!
Basically,I'm Pretty Much a Live and Live Kinda Guy!!
And Catbird,Yes,I Kinda Find It Hard to Beleive That Our WWII Pilots "Serviced Each Other"!!I Would Imagine That Depending Upon Where They Were Stationed,They Probably Visited The "Local Establishments"If You Know What I Mean!!!
However,Isn't It Kinda Funny How You Condemn The Swinger's Lifestyle and Want To Publicly Stone Them,.You Sure Are Quick To Offer Forgiveness To such"Paragons of Virtue"as Senator Larry Craig(Tried To Hit Up On an Undercover Cop In An Airport Men's Room!!);Congressman Mark Foley(Tried To Hit Up Young Gay Men Online);Reverend Ted Haggard(Had an Affair With a Gay Man and Did Drugs With Him!!)and Reverend Jimmy Swaggart(Caught With Hookers in a Motel Room!!)Among Others!!!
Could It Be That There's a Double Standard That Says It's Alright For Lawmakers and Clergy To Commit Adultery While Average People Aren't Supposed To???
Naw,There Ain't!!If You Really Want To Control Other's Lives,Might I Suggest Iran or North Korea??
In Iran,It's Legal(According to the Quoran)To Behead or Stone Adulterers While In North Korea Fearless Leader Kim Jong Il Controls Media Access!!
Why Don't I Buy You a One Way Ticket There???
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noname 09/22/2008 3:22:00 PM
What do you think would happen if all other 'swingers' events would appear in the media just as the Cherry Pits have? Are they such a close group of people that they would petition for their rights? This is just the one of many in the DFW and surrounding areas. Not to mention, has anyone been into a dance club lately and observe the behavior and fornication that goes on in there as well!?!?!? I think Dunanville is hard up for revenue and to scared to go after real criminals, which are plenty in the city!
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Free 09/21/2008 9:23:00 AM
Cities all over North Texas happily allow consenting unmarried adults, even those happily committing adultery, to pay, to rent a Hotel or motel room, to have their "immoral" sex. But if this should go on on someone's private property.... then it just becomes "too" immoral for North Texas cities....
Start banning unmarried adult couples from sharing the same hotel and motel rooms.... (which they would NEVER do....)and this special harrasment of the Cherry Pit would start to make sense.
Duncanville will sleep better knowing all the group fornication will now only be done at "respected" hotels and motels....
What a farce ! And airs of respectibility !!!
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Lori 09/21/2008 2:27:00 AM
I am a former regular of the Cherry Pit and the city never gave any trouble till lately makes you wonder what stirred up their hives! I would still go but now live out of state and all the charges are bullshit!
Hope someone uncovers the skeltons in the city's closet soon!
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kevin 09/20/2008 8:36:00 PM
Great story, I had no idea all that was going on!@!!!
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kevin 09/20/2008 8:36:00 PM
Great story, I had no idea all that was going on!@!!!
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dbcooper 09/20/2008 6:40:00 PM
This controversy should be about operating a business in a residential neighborhood, not whether consenting adults want to engage in the lifestyle. The Cherry Pit is a business and whether the owner admits it or not he is profiting from the donations in one way or another. Holding parties of this magnitude every weekend infringes on the rights of the neighbors, 50 to 100 couples showing up on weekends, with all those cars parked in the neighborhood, who would not be annoyed if that was happening in their neighborhood. There are plenty of empty buildings for rent in the metroplex that are more than 1000 feet from a neighborhood, church or school. Take it somewhere else.
Lastly, shame on Mr Trulock for bringing such a negative light to the lifestyle and shame on Mr Cagle for trying to assert his moral values on the people he serves. That�s what ministers are for.
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Kissel and Pico 09/20/2008 3:57:00 PM
I have to admit, "the lifestyle" is intriguing. But after seeing the pics of the Cherry Pit, that is not that place I would want to go to live out my fantasies.
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Jay 09/20/2008 3:51:00 AM
As I work for datedisplay.com (singles and couples dating), I see more and more couples seeking other couples for friendship and more.
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Neysa 09/20/2008 1:16:00 AM
Mike Fisher, you made yourself look stupid. I can get business cards at Kinko's for $5.00. That doesn't make me a business. The city of Duncanville is acting ridiculous. Government cannot and should not legislate morality. And the people shouldn't stand for it, lest the government starts saying something you do in your private life is "immoral."
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joss 09/20/2008 12:03:00 AM
girl, they always after my lucky swingles
get it on at filthyrichmond.com til tha break of dawn
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LeonRenee 09/19/2008 11:51:00 PM
Hey, How do we get in!? The hypocritical authorities go to far. People need release. We are Sexual Animals!! It's important for people to practice "Safe-Sex" because STD's are rampant. Enjoy Sex with Caution!:)
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Jennifer White 09/19/2008 11:11:00 PM
Oh for peets sake leave the folks alone.
Jiff
www.FireMe.to/udi
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Kelly j. Fisher 09/19/2008 6:07:00 PM
Fantasic writting. Bravo to the author!
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Jennifer | AskDanAndJennifer.c 09/19/2008 2:47:00 PM
I also posted this in our forums if you want to talk about it there... We have a very positive and supportive audience, so no haters please! Let's keep it about the issues.
http://www.askdanandjennifer.com/forums/swingers-threesomes/
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Jennifer | AskDanAndJennifer.c 09/19/2008 2:37:00 PM
While Dan and I are big proponents of protecting our freedoms and living the life we choose to live in the privacy of our own homes, I can't help but feel that this is not an issue about swingers, but an issue about running a club in a residential neighborhood.
It may have started out all in good fun, but when it gets this big, it's time to find a better venue. I have no issue with my neighbors throwing a swinger party, even every weekend, but 100 people? Stop and think about that for a minute... That's somewhere between 25 and 50 cars (minimum) lining the street in your neighborhood.
Regardless of the City of Duncanville's moral and ethical arguments, this is just too much traffic for a residential area.
Trying to make this into an issue about "Swinging" is missing the point.
My suggestion is to limit your house parties to 20 people or less!
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Juliet 09/19/2008 6:24:00 AM
Swinging, sometimes referred to as the swinging lifestyle, is "non-monogamous sexual activity, treated much like any other social activity, that can be experienced as a couple. Swinging may be seen as part of the sexual revolution of recent decades, which occurred after the upsurge in sexual activity made possible by safe sex practices. Swinging has been called wife swapping in the past. If you look in history you will find that Swinging has been around for quite some time.
The term "club" may refer to a group that organizes lifestyle-related events in a particular area, it can also refer to a physical location or building. In this latter context, clubs are typically divided into on-premises clubs, where sexual activity may occur at the club itself, and off-premises clubs, where sexual activity is not allowed at the club, but may be arranged at a nearby location.
Cherry Pit is a on-premise club. I, being a swinger, can be found at Off-premise clubs. (I personally, do not like to be at an on-premise club. In my opinion, it is not a healthy environment.)
Many swingers report that their relationships are strengthened through swinging, and say their sex lives are more intimate and satisfying. Jealousy can occur, but Proponents of swinging assert that jealousy is mainly couples whose relationships were already unstable. Finally, some swingers advocate that swinging is about sex, the physical aspect� and relationship (marriage) is about love, the emotional aspect. For example: To swing, the couple needs to differentiate between love and sex, and keep emotions out of swinging. Those who swing advocate that emotional feelings of love or excessive need for the third is a signal that the relationship with the third needs to end.
As to those who object to swinging on the basis of faith, many swingers feel their activities in their own homes or private clubs are not for others to judge. Others believe that as long as they consider their relationships sacred, playing does not contradict the sanctity, and is consistent with spiritual values.
In short, Swinging means different things to different people, and it brings to them what they seek as a couple.
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M.R. Turnage 09/19/2008 3:40:00 AM
I absolutely love the way the Jim Trulock conducts his life is represented by a photo of scantily clad models embracing. I see the quiet dignity you are trying to give him by liking what he does to something as poetic and subtle as a frilly short pink skirt and shiny breasts.
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Eathan 09/18/2008 9:06:00 PM
I feel bad for the Cherry Pit owners because they are fighting a uphill battle. They didn't have everything in order. It's evident that the City Of Duncanville is using everything they can to harrass them. At some point the City needs to allow the legal system to take its course and not pursue some of the petty charges.
With that being said, there are plenty of wealthy Dallas people who engage in these types of activities for years. This is a bright light on a their little secret. Personally I don't have a problem with people living out their sexual fantasy with consenting adults. No matter what their job is.
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Becky 09/18/2008 8:39:00 PM
Wow a article that finally grabbed my attention. Way to go Observer, for some of us ladies we like to see things in a different light. This was a interesting story and seems to be the talk in our kitchen here at work, actually a fun discussion here at lunch for us girls.
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Warren 09/18/2008 8:30:00 PM
Wow. I applaud the Observer for having the balls to even write this story. I also applaud the author for treating it fairly. No one else in this conservatism town would have the balls to even mention swinging exists. Thank you.
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Carl J. 09/18/2008 5:45:00 PM
The article mentions that a district attorney participates in swinging activities. Could that unnamed D.A. be our very own Craig Watkins?
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Catbird 09/18/2008 4:24:00 PM
I�ve seen the self-serving the claim by proponents of �the lifestyle� that American combat pilots �serviced� each other�s wives to keep them �faithful� during World War II and find it doubtful as well as abhorrent.
Human beings are not animals bound by the universal impulse to life but people created in the image of God with minds, souls and the moral good sense to sublimiate their sexual impulse in order to create families, children, homes and civilizations.
Public display of the perverse and destructive �lifestyle� shouldn�t be tolerated in a civilized culture whether in Duncanville or any other city anywhere in the country.
If the owners of the "Cherry Pit" had kept themselves below the radar no one would know or care what debauchery occured in their �home� but since they advertise their �parties� on the internet, it becomes the business of the community to either condone or condemn.
Kudos to the City of Duncanville for standing against this moral outrage.
And the city manager is correct: it� just plain nasty.
