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Mike 08/06/2009 11:17:00 PM
Does anyone have an email contact for Leslie. If so can you forward my email
justineboner@yahoo.com
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Roger 08/05/2009 11:49:00 PM
I would assume the same goes for institutions that sponsor other Presdential libraries? Does your liberal comment just apply to Republican Presidents? Will you say the same when they build the alter to Obama?
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Donna Turman 08/05/2009 12:19:00 AM
This library is the end of SMU as an institution of higher learning. Once it's completed and operating, SMU will join the ranks of Liberty Baptist College and Bob Jones University. They've embraced ideology over higher learning and they deserve their fate.
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Sharon 07/28/2009 10:07:00 PM
It is over. Time to move on.
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Mike 07/14/2009 9:21:00 PM
I know Leslie, but have not seen her for a long time. I know she is passionate on this subject as I would have been if my mother had been in the same situation. I am just sorry they had to go through this. Stressful situations can cause disease, as this no doubt was.
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Scotty 07/11/2009 10:37:00 AM
Based on the new disclosed info about Alberto and of the cabal in the past admin, should we try to send polite, but possibly evil mesgs that will be picked up by the NSA taps? I contend that the Bush Library is incompatible to the Bridwell. Is this going to be filtered and flagged, and then cause my Austin based e-mail to be scanned?
Friend of discourse,
Scott Boutwell
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Heath 07/08/2009 7:01:00 PM
As an SMU student and someone who lives in UP, I am not surprised at SMU. They will stop at nothing to get what the trustees want. This place stopped being an institution of higher education as soon at Turner took the helm, it is now a money-making venture. SMU will do anything to cover up any wrong doing, have we not learned our history lesson from the late 80's?
SMU does not need, deserve, or have the capacity for a presidential library. SMU is not an R1 research institution, it will never be. Univeristy Park cannot handle this Walmart sized building- yes it will be the size of a Walmart- plus Mockingbird and SMU Blvd are not going to get any wider, so the array of white trash can camp their campers and conversion vans in the parking lot of the library. I hope this goes to court and SMU is the laughing stock of the nation, lord knows I already have a worthless degree since I will be leaving Dallas upon graduation.
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walter 07/07/2009 7:36:00 PM
Very fitting; just like everything else the man did. Arrogant, selfish, high handed with total disregard for the rights of others.
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rickahight 07/07/2009 6:21:00 PM
Another anti-Bush article written by anti-Bush authors (I refuse to call them journalists) quoting anti-Bush sources.
Every Presidental library had distractors. SMU has the unusual distinction of being supported by conservatives yet has a liberal professor majority.
Get over it. The library is here to stay.
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Scott 07/07/2009 5:29:00 PM
Ann, Suck it. You probably have no life and can't stand the fact that you are insignificant in life. Go protest outside the school will ya. Wear your Birkenstocks along with your hairy armpits and hope you get attention from someone. Your clueless and I'm willing to bet any amount you are a liberal skank who is overweight and unattractive and feel like everyone owes you. Loser....
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Ann hates non-readers 07/07/2009 2:06:00 AM
Boo freaking Hoo for the condo owners
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Scott, can you even read???? Did you read the article??? I don't think you did, you retarded dipwad!!!! Please, go back to school and learn to read comprehensively, not like the way retard modern schools have taught you. When you have actually READ the aticle, then you may make a comment, asshat!!!
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Ann 07/07/2009 1:58:00 AM
The only shame in this situation is Dallasites will have to drive by a temple to Bush every day to and from Downtown.
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Gah!!! Could you be more of a douchebag, John????? You total, racist! Get out of your Narcissistic world already!
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Matt 07/07/2009 12:07:00 AM
My favorite part of this whole story:
"In fact, in the latest U.S. News and World Report ranking of the country's best universities, SMU came in 66th, two spots behind Texas A&M. SMU simply isn't that selective in its application process."
LMFAO!!!!!!!
Thanks for that. Now we all know that even Aggies are more educated than the snotty, Daddy's Mercedes driving, bottom-feeders from SMU.
I'm sure having a Bush Library will only add to that wonderful "legacy".
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Scott 07/06/2009 10:52:00 PM
Two comments. Boo freaking Hoo for the condo owners. The condo are and were trash and don't give me the excuse my poor pitiful mother has to move somewhere else and she feels like this is home with her pictures of the kids on the wall.. For god's sake in reality it is a apartment off Central Expressway. I would hope to place my mother somewhere where it is more like a home and less like campus housing, which is what it was intended for in the first place. Secondly the atty's see a opportunity to go after money and Bush because they have a axe to grind with the university and him politically. Get a life losers.....
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James 07/06/2009 9:14:00 AM
I was a graduate student at SMU in the late 80s and early 90s. Once SMU decided to go after the Bush library, I withdrew all support for the school. They will never receive another penny from me, and I can no longer recommend them to students.
- James
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Burnin Books 07/03/2009 1:34:00 AM
Snotty Materialistic Undertakings... SMU in a nutshell.
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07/02/2009 10:45:00 PM
What SMU did was definitely despicable. But I have a hard time having much sympathy for people who sold to their original lowball offers. What does it matter if they were going to use the plot for the Bush Library vs. a new science building vs. a putting green? They were buying it to use it. Colleges rarely buy off campus property to provide residental housing.
Even if you are a feeble elderly woman, how hard is it to get a lawyer if you think you are being taken advantage of? People who gave up and threw in the towel because they were naive, or didn't like their neighbors, or thought the fight was too costly, got low prices. People who stuck it out to get what they felt the property was worth to them got substantially more. How is that different to normal life?
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John 07/02/2009 8:47:00 PM
Mr. Davenport,
For them to be up front about wanting to buy the condos to put class buildings, dorms, football field, presidential library, or anything else would have been complete suicide. The condo owners would have tried to prevent SMU from buying them up (like they tried to do anyway) and would have demanded huge sums of money to buy them each out.
How well condo owners maintained their properties has little to do with the major costs of renovating the condo. Like I stated before, the owners would have had to invest millions in infrastructure to update it - how well the tenants maintained their own condos has nothing to do with those costs.
Face it, those condos were about as non-park cities as you could get, and are more akin to the condos across 75 over by the village. For what SMU was offering the condo owners per sqft is a little under what it would cost to get a similar quality condo in that area.
The only shame in this situation is Dallasites will have to drive by a temple to Bush every day to and from Downtown.
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Houston Roy 07/02/2009 5:26:00 PM
Get on with life. Attorneys know that professional whining clients that pursue civil litigation for years for principle are quite insane. Money is the alpha and omega of civil litigation - period. If you are not in it for that, get out or prepare to get your butt carved off. This pursuit gives demented minds a false sense of purpose and importance. " I'm not doing it for me, I'm doing it for the principle/for all those people that will come after me". Thanks a lot, but I may not share your principles and I can take care of my self. Money that could do something of value (support a library?) is diverted to attorneys. University Gardens was a nest for more than 20 years. The people that bought there bought cheap and got what they deserved. A library there (even celebrating Pres. Bush) will be a vast improvement to the wasteland of Central Expressway from downtown to north Plano.
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Bryan Davenport 07/02/2009 3:47:00 PM
Regarding the condition of the property, yes this was an aging property but it was in very nice condition and the owners for the most part took pride in keeping their units nice. There are dozens of properties in the metro area that were built around the same time and are still successfully operating today -- Bordeaux Village, Wilshire Village, several of the complexes on University Boulevard just to name a few. There are apartment complexes that are quite a bit newer that are in far worse shape that University Gardens was.
No, it is not surprising that SMU would want that property for expansion purposes and nobody blames them for wanting to do so. The problem is the way that they went about aquiring it. They could have offered the residents a much more fair price than they did and not implemented scare tactics to get their way. They should have been upfront and honest with the true reason that they wanted that land.
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Let it go 07/02/2009 1:02:00 PM
Yes, fighting a losing battle your entire life over run-down buildings can be tough.
But I do not see the slightest semblence of actual journalism in this article. Who is paying the author???
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John 07/02/2009 8:37:00 AM
I'm sure SMU was plotting to remove the complex, but this article is pretty slanted.
SMU is completely land-locked and built out judging from Google Earth. Is it surprising that they would buy up the last bit of land between the campus and 75? The article says the complex was 40 years old. I work in the construction industry with apartment complexes and find very few of that age that are in decent condition. Condos would be very similar.
How about an interview with the engineers who published the report showing millions in upgrades required to the complex? Students damage walls and entry gates. That doesn't account for that kind of repair costs. Most likely the complex needed new HVAC, sewer systems, electrical systems, etc. Satanic masses on balconies don't affect those systems. Would the poor old residents be able to afford that? There isn't much engineering judgment in something like this either - every firm out there would come up with a similar number. I stopped getting second opinions on engineering condition assessment on apartment complexes years ago because they call come out the same.
Looks to me like SMU took advantage of the rules to snatch up the cheapest land around campus to expand into, and then happened to get the shrubya coloring book library. The library plans that have been released show sports fields on a bunch of the land anyway.
I don't see how SMU could possibly lose in court just based on the engineers report anyway.
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Bryan Davenport 07/02/2009 7:59:00 AM
As the son of Pat Davenport and brother of Leslie, I am thrilled to see this article published. Of course I am extremely doubtful that anyone at SMU will ever admit to their devilish doings regarding the University Gardens land grab, I do hope that at least privately some of them feel at least some sense of shame as they read this story. My mother and sister spent so much time over so many years trying to fight for the value of my mother's property in the complex that they hardly had time to focus on anything else. It was truly an all-consuming effort, very reminiscent of David fighting Goliath -- only in this case Goliath and his oh-so-deep pockets won the battle.
I saw the toll that trying to save her home took on my mother. I can't count the times that I called or visited her and found her in tears worrying about how things would end up. Like my sister, I too believe that the resulting stress and worry over several years was a major contributing factor to my mother's contracting cancer and her inability to survive the disease. While nothing can bring her back to the family and friends that loved her, I do hope that SMU will ultimately pay some price for their evil deeds. This story sheds a lot of light on the truth that a lot of people may not know about, and I love that SMU's precious pride and reputation will be tarnished by it. I urge everyone who reads this story and is moved, angered or outraged by it to take a moment to let SMU know how you feel -- pick up a phone, fire off an email or send them a letter. Further, I enthusiastically cheer on Gary Vodicka and Robert Tafel in their ongoing litigation. SMU has exhibited enormous greed and avarice in the way that they cheated the mostly elderly property owners out of what they should have been able to get for their property. (Even if they had wanted to be uprooted from their stable homes, there is nowhere in the Park Cities that they could have relocated to with the paltry amount of money that they were forced to sell for.) The ultimate slap in SMU's face would be for then to have to loosen up their purse strings and give some of that money back.
Thank you Matt Pulle for writing this!