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Oak Cliff Mexican 09/14/2010 6:41:00 PM
In regards to this article, I can see why it would come across as offensive to some readers. It implies that theses folks are the average people in OC, and they are portrayed as rescuers of the city. I've lived in Oak Cliff long enough to remember when the only brown things on my block were the trees. As a child, my family and I opened the doors to the white flight, and hell yeah gentrification is bad thing; however community transformation is a beautiful thing. There are many, many great people in Oak Cliff, and they're NOT all white folks living in the Bishop, Kessler, Winnetka Heights, or Stevens Park area, but they're still 75208 & 75211 community transforming residents. Let’s face the facts here, Hispanics have been living here, investing here, and changing Oak Cliff for many years. Some people, many of them white, jumped in at the cheap land and housing, choosing to be near downtown with a price break. But that’s not all bad. These recent Cliff Dwellers seem to genuinely love the community, want the good of the city, and desire to be a part of the OC cultural fabric. My only concern is that these "pioneers" would be just as eager to reach out and open the doors for others as they have been for their own newly formed "white" pockets in Oak Cliff. If this Great New Oak Cliff means transformation, where we all work together for the good of the city, and not only for the good of “some” then it’s something worth doing. However, if this is gentrification, not white flight, but a white kick in the ass to lesser socio-economic families, with a philosophy of arrogance that says, “Be like me, earn like me, and live like me, then you’ll fit in” then this will just end up being another black eye for the residents of this great, first suburb of Dallas.
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Beezer 09/03/2010 5:32:00 PM
Oak Cliff is about people pursuing their passions. Oak Cliff has been receiving a lot of attention because its an intersting place, with interesting people, doing interesting things.
People who move to Oak Cliff are the antithesis of the $30k Millionaires the Observer has chronicled in the past. To move to Oak Cliff, you have to lose your pretension. Once you have rejected the concern about your status and what others think about your worth (or net worth), you can free yourself to be yourself.
This is a story about people who are free. They have unleashed their creativity. They envision a community with spirit. They are pursuers of passion. And, in Dallas, they are uncommon.
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Goofy White Hipster Libtard Do 08/27/2010 10:39:00 PM
Most white liberal hipsters I have encountered usually were quite careful to steer clear of non-whites, except under controlled conditions. Safe, middle class nonwhites are of course preferred, usually in a majority white setting. To be avoided are representatives of the vast majority of the non-whites, about 90% of them. The libs have usually found the money to isolate themselves in housing, schools for their children, areas of travel, etc. Watch what they do, not what they say. White liberals are all about “Hey everybody, look at me, look at what a do-gooder I am, look at how enlightened and tolerant I am, acknowledge my moral superiority!” They want lots of praise and publicity for being white liberals in a majority non-white area. Just look at the recent Dallas Observer cover story for proof.
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IRENE 08/25/2010 3:42:00 PM
I love what they are doing! I sold my house in Oak Cliff 12years ago to move back to West Dallas where I was raised and never regret the moved. I have the best of both worlds. I can look across my neighbor's yard to see their horses running free and all families are caring as well as concerned about each other. I have no sidewalks and the mailman will not deliver mail if mailbox isn't sitting by the narrow black top street in front of my house. Thanks for letting everyone know they too can bring the country to the city. Irene
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anonymous Cliffdweller 08/24/2010 6:29:00 PM
Hi. I'm from the Dallas Observer. I "discovered" how cool Oak Cliff is (I even invented a term for the inhabitants!) and now I'm so self-satisfied that I'm going to write about my discovery until others are so fed up that they can't take reading any more about them.
I know many of the people in this article. I like what they're trying to accomplish in North Oak Cliff. But let's be honest - they definitely have an above average amount of free time, expendable income, resources at their disposal, or some combination thereof. The things they have done just can't be accomplished any other way. The negativity they seem to generate in some outsiders is probably just a symptom of the overexposure that they have received - while I find some of it justified, it has been disproportionate to the effect that they have on the area. That's probably where the resentment comes in, because if you talked to anyone featured in this article, I don't think you'd find them objectionable in the slightest. (ok, some people in North Oak Cliff object to ANYONE with money trying to move into the area, but I'd say that's not most)
The problem is really that the bulk of the people making an impact in NOC aren't creating newsworthy sound-bites. They're investing their money in renovating 90 year old homes rather than letting them decay to be ultimately torn down. They are trying to improve public schools in the area. And above all they are trying to minimize crime, graffiti, etc so that the area is attractive for basic services that are not available in the area right now. These things have been going on for 30 years in the area, but all of a sudden we've got goats, and dumpster pools, and street fairs - now there's something to feature on the front page!
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Amy Cowan 08/24/2010 6:02:00 PM
I swore off these comments (because they hurt my feelings- not going to lie), but I can't focus, so here I am!
Absolutely, my kids are going to DISD. It's a paid-for education. If you figure private school costs $10,000 per kid, and figure how many hours it would take me to make an extra $20,000 per year (I have 2 little monkeys), I can dedicate 1/4 as much time to helping their school and probably come out way ahead! Why not work to fix what we have rather than just scrapping it and starting over all the time?
I think THAT mantra is why we all- not just in this article, but multiple stories now- keep getting so much attention. We are totally different from typical Dallas, where every building is disposable, money is no issue, and you have to rely on legislation to determine your every move. And, frankly, that is newsworthy today. Will it be tomorrow? Of course not.
So is the problem the writing? I don't know. But I do know that being snippity in comments (especially annonymous ones) on articles isn't the way to build a cohesive community. I think the beauty of Oak Cliff is that even if you don't want to do all of these things, you can still live here and have an awesome life. We are such a diverse community, both economically, racially, lifestyle, etc., that there is undoubtedly a like-minded person somewhere in the OC to be your friend. I told Andrea Grimes this when she was interviewing us- if you want your day to revolve around your kids, being the best parent ever, and so on- there's a group for you! And if you're an artist- there's a group for you! And if you're interested in gardening- there are multiple groups for you! And if you're just a weird, mid-thirties mom with ADD (like me), there's a group for you, too!
Whatever it is, don't be a "hater" because someone made the paper and you didn't (just ask Eric- he was asked 3,000 questions, and he's not in the article once!),or because you don't want to raise chickens, or because you don't care for riding bikes. Just roll your eyes and keep plugging away at what inspires you!
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Jason Roberts 08/24/2010 5:51:00 PM
We have a lot of heroes in Oak Cliff, and many that never get recognized at all. Barbara Barbee & OC Parks, Michael Amonett and the OC Conservation League, Luis and Sylvia Salcedo, Edna Pemberton, the Promise House, TexansCan, the Jefferson Beautification Project, along with a host of others literally deserve statues for their amazing volunteerism. These groups are all my mentors and friends and help make Oak Cliff a better place for all.
I would like to address the idea that promoting bicycling is done in exclusivity. That's never been my intent, as I personally head to elementary schools and work with seniors to get them to ride as well. Our group rides are open to all and free...my 9 year old is at the front of the line with me on all of these as well, so it's far from being a "hipster" only group. We all try to make a point of being inclusive with this goal. The snobbish article posted by the DO was a joke which Schutze referenced in the comments. Heck, the guy who he said stated it (Michael Hubbard in East Dallas) is a close personal friend...which is why I knew from the get go it wasn't serious.
Also, our kids both go to DISD so it's very personal for me to have our community's kids be healthy and mindful of the environment. Regardless of when you arrived, we've all had to be pioneers to a degree. A shootout in front of my sons bedroom when he was 3 months old is what started my personal civic activism. Pulling those 9mm slugs out of the grass was about as real as it got for me.
What I think of as Oak Cliff's lasting legacy is our (as a community) spirit of getting things done on our own and I think that's what the article was portraying. With the school as an example, when we realized there was no bike racks, we simply called friends and built one as opposed to waiting for someone at the city to make it happen. This same thing occurs time and again throughout the community. The bicycling element gets picked up on quickly though because it's an extremely foreign thing in a city that rejected multi-modalism in the 1950's and focused only on cars to the detriment of our historic structures and lower income families.
Though my wife and I have lived here for 10 years, our family has been here for 60 and I've seen time and again obstacles put up by the city that make it difficult for our community to lock arms and work together (whether it be widening roads, restrictive ordainances, costly fees for starting community gardens, et cetera). There are a lot of problems, but conversely, there are a lot of opportunities, and our approach to fixing the problems is where Oak Cliff really shines.
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Michael 08/24/2010 3:50:00 PM
I think the problem is the article and the way it was written, not the people in the article. Although I don't know any of them...I just have a hard time believing that they are anything like the way they are portrayed in the article. Some sort of hipster-doofus super-progressive elites. I was left with the impression that the only reason they are "progressive" is because they can afford to be. And I just don't believe that to be the case. (And even if it was, I'd rather them be "well-off and progressive" than "well-off" and living inside super-fortress homes and resenting anything outside their four walls.)
Still, I think that the subjects of the article come off in a bad way, and I think that is very unfair. It's written in such a way that makes them easy to dislike.
I like what they are doing there, but the fawning coverage from the Observer isn't doing them any favors, IMO.
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Cicada 08/24/2010 12:21:00 PM
This sounds like it could be a wonderful oasis of sanity in Dallas. Let's hope it isn't destroyed by the planners and developers eager to drive everyone out who doesn't make $150,000 by "gentrifying" the whole area.
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Garden Guy 08/24/2010 6:26:00 AM
Instead of so much concentration on swimming pools, goat farms and chickens, why not do an article on some other folks in Oak Cliff that are making a huge difference, such as the Friends of Oak Cliff Park. Barbara Barbee and her group are leading the charge to put the beauty back in the OC parks. Their efforts need to receive some recognition and sincere appreciation.
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biko schmiko 08/24/2010 5:38:00 AM
Oak Cliff doesn't need redefinition. It needs cohesion. And less use of the word "biko."
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InTheKnow 08/24/2010 1:30:00 AM
Thank you Erica. Our sentiments exactly.
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Erica 08/24/2010 12:07:00 AM
As someone who has, except for college and law school and a weird 2-year period living in a condo in Oak Lawn, lived in Oak Cliff since I was 7, I admit to having mixed emotions about the new "hipness" surrounding Oak Cliff. Of course we need new businesses, and people with a lot of energy to devote to civic interests. And raising goats and growing your own vegetables--that's nothing new for the OC. Knock yourselves out. But, I guess it's just the earnestness of it all that makes me tired. Let's ride our bikes everywhere! And throw street parties all of the time! And talk about how much we're making OC better (well, let's be real, here--NORTH Oak Cliff better)! Great. Awesome. We're glad you're here and that you have lots of energy. Perhaps it's because we work full time and have a 3-year old, and I'm pregnant with twins, but my husband (a true OC convert if ever there was one) and I can't seem to muster the same level of excitement the people described in this article have. We'll take care of our house, be nice to our neighbors, and frequent OC businesses, but I'll leave the "urban pioneer" status to others.
What I really want to know is: are these people going to follow through on their convictions and send their kids to DISD schools? Because as a DISD product myself, THAT'S some earnest behavior I could get behind--and a tried and true way to support your neighborhood, to boot. But, it would mean having your white child be a minority at the school. Are you all ready for that level of urban living?
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Mariana 08/23/2010 9:40:00 PM
Though I should truly not become involved in this conversation...I just wanted some people to understand that the intention was not ever to label myself as a liberal, or conservative, or any other politically motivated term. I was just commenting on the fact that I am Mexican (never mind that biologically speaking we are all the same Human Race). I comment on this because so often the perception of someone as being from one group or the other stifles any possibility of camaraderie.
That said, with the Salmonella scare and everything, I am picking up more chickens (actually rescuing them from an overcrowded feed store). I don't think this whole thing is about me, or Scott, or bikos, or the country club, its about not having to think about Salmonella in my eggs. If you have room in your yard, we can help you build a coop, probably with recycled materials from bulk trash. In those 3-4 hours today, I worked on my fence building skills, so let me know if you want some rescue chickens.
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Really? 08/23/2010 5:37:00 PM
How is anyone cramming anything down your throat? Don't want to farm? Okay, don't. Don't want to ride a bike? You're in luck- Ford will make you a deal on a car today. Hate running into people you know at street parties? Stay home. No one cares! There are millions of people in the world who do great things that don't ever make the cover of the Dallas Observer. I don't think that means you can hate the people who do make the cover... Maybe just hate the reporters.
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Sandy 08/23/2010 4:20:00 PM
Did I already send to you....enjoy
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Sandy 08/23/2010 4:16:00 PM
Did I already send to you....enjoy
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InTheKnow 08/23/2010 1:21:00 AM
Rubber-- I think we agree on about 90 percent. Like you I am glad this area is getting more attention from developers etc however I really don't think it is the bikeos and goat owners who are responsible for that. Much of the area was bought up 5-8 years ago, long before Bike Friendly Oak Cliff got started or the goat guy even moved over here. I'm thinking there are many others in Oak Cliff who have worked much harder, and are far more deserving of credit for "redefining the community", than these people, that's all.
And I must beg to differ. I have heard from many many friends on both sides of the river about how arrogant and condescending many (not all but many) of the bikeos are and how they really don't want people from Uptown, North Dallas etc to step over here to what they consider "their turf." You may not have encountered it but many people have. Don't believe me? read this:
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2010/07/bike_friendly_well_depends_if.php
Finally, note I am not bashing these people for "not doing what I do". I do not expect these people to live my lifestyle...I and others I know would appreciate it if they'd stop trying to shove their lifestyle down all of our throats and change Oak Cliff into a place where only a certain type of person (someone who lives their lifestyle) should be allowed to live, as I have actually heard a few say in social settings. I like Oak Cliff to be a place where libertarians, radical feminists, evangelicals, gays, Chinese, small people, etc etc. all can live and get along just fine. That's not their mantra. If you ain't like them, hit the road jack.
I think we're basically on the same page. They're happy to do whatever they want. But if they're going to say certain people aren't welcome in Oak Cliff, and set up their own private little "country club" in one of the poorest parts of Dallas, I will disagree vehemently with their view of themselves as liberals (and know I have many many of my neighbors nodding in agreement).
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08/22/2010 11:09:00 PM
In - It is great that there are others in the neighborhood who are doing the things you say. I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't think I am missing the point. I am not at all concerned with anyone being a true "liberal" - where do you stop asking folks to provide their bona fides? Seems a slippery slope to me. I can't help but notice that you indicate your unwillingness to "bash" others for not doing as you do, but in the same breath you bash those featured in the article. That is curious to me. My point is that this neighborhood has an excellent chance at coming back into its own after several decades of being completely ignored by the city. The reason this is happening, at least to my way of thinking, is because of people like you, me, many others in the area and those in the article. I have run into these folks a number of times and I have never felt that they were condescending. You might be reading too much into what they are trying to do. I, for one, am glad that they (and you and the others you mentioned) are using their energy to cause change that is going in the right direction.
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InTheKnow 08/22/2010 6:44:00 PM
Rubbercow: Sorry but you're missing the point. These people are posing themselves off as "liberals" who are "getting back to the land" in a way that "redefines their community". When in fact, many of the people who were featured in this article have stockade fences a la Richardson around their homes, drive expensive cars, either do now or have taught at private schools and are more than happy to announce they don't want ANYBODY from the other side of the river to set foot on what they consider "their turf".
I agree with pretty much everything you say. All I am saying is there are LOTS of people in Oak Cliff who represent a far more authentic and less "hip" definition of progressive -- quietly puttin up solar panels in their home, driving smart cars, etc without feeling the need to either bash those who don't ... or have an article glorifying them in the media.
Those are the people truly redefining Oak Cliff, not the condescending bikeos or those threatening a lawsuit everytime something doesn't go their way.
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08/22/2010 5:20:00 PM
It is sad that there are so many people out there who are,apparently, fueled solely by hatred and jealousy. My wife and I have lived in Oak Cliff (not even a fancy part) for three and half years and have been mightily impressed with the diversity of the neighborhood and the willingness of people of all colors, sexual and political orientations to work together to come together to accomplish something for the neighborhood and, therefore, themselves. What is so wrong with that?
Change can be a good thing. It is easy for nay-sayers to cry about "gentrification" or whatever, but what would they like to see as an alternative? Do they think that just because some folks are poor means that those folks would prefer to be surrounded by poverty and have no chance of doing better (see - the American Dream). Nobody is telling longtime residents (which, by the way, includes many elderly white people who have been here for longer than anyone else) that they have to move or that "their" lifestyle is bad. Like I said above, this is a diverse neighborhood and everyone gets along pretty well.
All of you who love to jump on the folks featured in this article for being "well-to-do" or somehow aristocratic; it is pretty easy to see what your problem is - these folks have already accomplished more in their 20's and 30's than you ever will.
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JUST A THOUGHT 08/22/2010 4:06:00 PM
This would be a bit of a non-story had " white flight " never happened in the 60s and 70s. What will this movement be called, " return to the nest " ? A little advice, please don't let your neighbors create an HOA.
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Pre Poser 08/22/2010 2:04:00 AM
Life here in Oak Cliff was so hard pre 2005. All the Mexican food, having to drive everywhere you went with air-conditioning in the blistering heat and only 2 or 3 events a year instead of 872... I don't even know how we survived. Thank God for these pioneers, I feel safe now.
Which one of these Superfriends of Oak Cliff picked the super power of stray kittens? Biko boy... but no kitty man?
Where is the diversity in this description of Utopia? Give me some gays and lesbians moving to Oak Cliff in the 80's or 90's dodging gunfire and fixing up houses and I'll show you some pioneers. Rushing in in the 2000's took no great forethought. Advocating big buildings built on top of where all the poor people live is the kind of liberalism that Tom Delay would be proud of. But hey, like Bush said after 9/11 .. go shopping. The second dip of our recession will demonstrate how that has worked so well.
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regsted sex offender at cliff 08/21/2010 10:58:00 PM
Here is a video that shows the bishop arts area after neumann allows dha to dump all the homeless deadbeats in oak cliff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlBtlDj-ARE
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can turkyilmaz 08/21/2010 7:57:00 AM
Will and desire used for the goodness off all concerned. Thank you for bringing life out on to the streets. There is a lot of work to do.
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Country Boy 08/21/2010 6:35:00 AM
Fifteen years ago the city pressured my father into getting rid of his farm animals he was raising on an acre of land. Instead of selling them he moved to the country. Now raising animals in the city is hip, go figure.
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Goatherder 08/21/2010 5:30:00 AM
No, Mariana, you are not a "libtard" as much as you like to think yourself one. If you were truly liberal like the 1000s of those who came before you, you'd be raising money to help the flood victims in Pakistan, working to bring relief to the 1000s of fellow Americans whose lives have been shattered by the BP oil spill etc. You know, the sort of things hundreds of other REAL liberals are doing right this very minute.
Instead, you spend "3-4 hours" a day working at the farm on your private property, a gift from you 6-figure lawyer husband who is happy to beat up on code violators in Oak Cliff while his wife bats her eyelashes coquettishly and tells the reporter, "oh is this illegal -- tee- hee -hee." Or, partying in the dumpster pool at your "country club."
Oh, and that $20 bike of yours? Not local, sorry. Made in China, for sure. Really.
Not that mastering the details of being a real liberal matters to you. It's the appearance that counts, right?
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Robert Heinlein 08/21/2010 12:26:00 AM
A "critic" is a man who creates nothing and thereby feels qualified to judge the work of creative men. There is logic in this; he is unbiased — he hates all creative people equally.
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Bob from 1893 08/20/2010 11:31:00 PM
Oh Yeah! Well I've lived in Oak Cliff since 1893, and I rode around on a high wheeled bike and wore underwear made of brillo pads and broken glass. You buncha hipsters don't know nothing until you hit a pothole at 30mph while perched 8 feet in the air on top of a giant wooden wheel. And you think urban farming so radical...we in my day goats were used for business AND pleasure! Stick that in your skinny jeans and smoke it!
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North OC Dweller.... 08/20/2010 11:30:00 PM
Gotta love this enery and creativity - i live by the Belmont and look forward to this area of North Oak Cliff and west dallas continuing to become cool and hip with a laid back vibe
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Dave 08/20/2010 8:23:00 PM
I wonder what Sarah Palin would say about the spin on the word 'liberal' that is being used by some of the individuals commenting on this article.
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Max Edison 08/20/2010 7:38:00 PM
There are conservatives and liberals in Oak Cliff, and too bad if that gives you a harelip Mr. Barf and pals. If all you are interested in is putting people into a box that allows you to continue your narrative of conflict, then you are a sad person. All of us here want a better way of life, and nobody has a monopoly on that. I don't know all the answers, but being a player-hater will not solve anything. Don't bring your narrow-minded hypocrisy onto this side of the river, and we'll show you what happens to punks in Oak Cliff.
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Frank Ocean 08/20/2010 5:29:00 PM
My wife and I moved to Oak cliff three years so we could get in on the ground floor of the Great Oak Cliff Experiment. We love it here and plan on staying for the long-haul. It kills me when I hear people talk about gentrification like it's such a bad thing. Last I checked, this is America, and people have the right to live wherever they want, and no one is going to make me feel guilty about choosing to live in Oak Cliff. I mean, is it so horrible that people with a little can-do attitude and DIY know-how want to make something better out of the place they call home? Consider the alternative: blighted neighborhoods, population decline, lack of services, unemployment, poverty, and an increase in crime.
So, for some of you, gentrification may be a dirty word, but for me, the flip-side is far worse.
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Not too far away from libtarde 08/20/2010 5:23:00 PM
Celebrate Divershitty!
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/082010dnmetshootout.2ed70ec.html
Teen killed, three men injured in shootout, collision in Oak Cliff
07:43 AM CDT on Friday, August 20, 2010
By RICHARD ABSHIRE / The Dallas Morning News
rabshire@dallasnews.com
A Dallas teenager was killed and three men were injured in a shootout and head-on crash between the occupants of two cars Thursday night.
A deadly shooting sparked a short chase and game of "chicken" on a west Oak Cliff street.
Authorities said Jacob Guerra, 16, was shot and killed in the possibly gang-related gunbattle, which started about 6:15 p.m. in the 3300 block of Thibet Street, near Cockrell Hill.
After the initial shooting, the groups parted ways, but their paths crossed again a few minutes later four blocks away on Grafton Avenue.
Police and fire reports say the two groups, one in a Cadillac and the other in a Nissan Maxima, faced each other in the 3300 block of Grafton. They sped toward each other and crashed head-on.
The ones in the Cadillac escaped on foot and remained at large. Four men in the Maxima remained at the scene, some pinned in their car and all of them hurt.
Ambulances took two of them, ages 20 and 25, to Methodist Dallas Medical Center in stable condition with crash injuries. A third man, 28, went to Methodist with multiple gunshot wounds. His condition was uncertain.
Guerra, the fourth occupant of the Maxima, went to Parkland Memorial Hospital with gunshot wounds and crash-related injuries. He died at the hospital.
None of the other victims had been identified. The incident was believed to be gang-related, said Sgt. Warren Mitchell, a police spokesman.
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Dave 08/20/2010 4:55:00 PM
I'm the kind of person who has an opinion on everything, especially things that I don't understand. I wish I had a pulpit from which I could air my grievances but no one wants to listen to the rantings of a rageaholic. So I read articles online and leave uneducated responses in the comments section where I insult those that I don't understand for not being a rageaholic like me. Please pay attention to me, my life is meaningless unless I can make you pay attention to me!!!
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Wegl88 08/20/2010 4:23:00 PM
I've been in the Cliff before it was hip. I just love the helmetless organ-donor hipsters riding carefree of traffic law and convention on their over-priced, boat-anchor fixies. They act like they invented the bike. I've been riding the Cliff for 15 years at about 4000 miles per year and I am tired of them making biking look bad.
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Stephanie 08/20/2010 4:03:00 PM
When did this become an Us vs. Them debate? What the hell is wrong with a little community activism? We here in Oak Cliff use our own FREE time and money to get things done. Since we can't rely on property taxes and government funding, we do it ourselves. You can't get more American than that. Crack open a history book and you'll see what I mean. Getting back to basics, people.
@Chris Bates: Decades ago, dogs used to be considered farm animals. And if I'm not mistaken, they carry all sorts of "health hazards" like fleas, ticks, etc. You ready to put your domestics on the chopping block for the sake of your community's health?
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Timothy Covington 08/20/2010 3:51:00 PM
As a conservative, I applaud the urban farming movement. These people are increasing their independence by growing their own food. This shows both personal and fiscal responsibility. I wish more people would at least attempt to do the same thing.
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Chris Bates 08/20/2010 7:47:00 AM
I can't believe that the Observer is advocating such practice. This type of eye sore has been a problem in Dallas for years. Goats, chickens, and pigs etc are farm animals and should be raised on a farm. Besides the health hazard there are a whole slew of other problems that comes frm this. Here we ar the fourth largest city in America and we are encourging rubes to raise farm animals in the inner city. No wonder the world thinks the way they do about Texas. Until we have a city council that actually has a spine this problem will continue to grow.
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SMUCollegeRebuplicanPresident 08/20/2010 6:31:00 AM
Hipsters get out of Dallas now. You do not belong in Oak Cliff you are all evil genrifiers. Leave now or else
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Downtown Dave 08/20/2010 6:04:00 AM
Randall, why are you so angry? Get over yourself. You chose West Dallas. We chose Oak Cliff. You'll get your turn one day.
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Anonymous 08/20/2010 5:47:00 AM
Randall, give us a break.
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Jim 08/20/2010 12:01:00 AM
Obvious troll is obvious. Go back to 4chan, Barf. I'm a former Marine and own way too many guns. I love riding with them during their group rides. I also think moving to Oak Cliff would be a great thing now that I've seen what they've been doing. Most of what the BFOCers do is on their own, without government assistance (or even despite government intervention). The times they push the government for action is dealing with vehicular infrastructure, something I actually think the government SHOULD be involved in. No so liberal, more libertarian.
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Mugtoe 08/19/2010 6:10:00 PM
why do people always say, "Well, growth is inevitable..."? It fucking ISN'T, until you say that.
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Nova 08/19/2010 5:55:00 PM
Good things come from honest action. This activist involvement will genuinely benefit many folks, throughout the melanin spectrum. Complain all you like about "libtards" (I'm pretty sure there are repubtards helping out too)...but they are getting stuff done, and with a smile.
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Amy Cowan 08/19/2010 7:53:00 AM
I think we should start a "Top 100 things I love about Oak Cliff" list, just to really piss off the rest of the Barfs out there.
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Robert 08/19/2010 6:40:00 AM
This is normal life for many Oregonians from Eugene and Inner SE Portland.
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Rob 08/19/2010 12:24:00 AM
That's funny... according to the census Richardson is 75% white with a median household income of $90,000. But what's the point of arguing about who is more 'diverse'?
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Mariana 08/18/2010 11:42:00 PM
Barf, I'm a Mexican "libtard". We do give out hugs for free, though. And you can always borrow the fanciest bike I have, a $20 Schwinn.
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Scott 08/18/2010 11:28:00 PM
Awww, Barf. C'mon over here and get a hug. It sure sounds like you could use it!
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Barf 08/18/2010 10:13:00 PM
Oops typo. Should read "with enough" instead of "win enough".
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Barf 08/18/2010 10:11:00 PM
Oh look. Earnest white liberal gentrifiers win enough excess time and money that they can waste it playing "farmer" and riding expensive hipster bicycles. Barf. Hey libtards, Richardson is far more "diverse" than Oak Cliff so shut the fuck up win your snobby fake libtard feel-good platitudes.
