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Hunny 02/13/2011 5:01:00 PM
I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water just because white southern Baptists are hypocritical and judgmental, racist and hateful. They are modern-day Pharisees. You can know the truth and unconditional love of God without them.
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God 01/02/2011 8:49:00 PM
Robert Jeggres isn't the one full of shit, is he, shithead?
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Clay Henderson 10/01/2010 7:11:00 PM
"It is an evil religion," Jeffress said of Islam. "It is an oppressive religion. It is a violent religion." And it's leading its followers straight to hell.
Speaking as a gay pagan in North Texas, Jeffress' comments are more relevant when put into context of his own Southern Baptist religion. Along with deities and ancestors of my faith, I frequently find myself praying to Jesus on a regular basis... BUT, in my case... I pray that Jesus (and the rest of the gang) protect me FROM Jeffress and his pathetically, pathologically herd following big haired, big SUV'd, big rooflined, big debt, bigoted flock ... "Bless [their] hearts!"
In the name of Jesus, "save the fetuses, but stone the queers!"
And ya'll wonder why Paganism is the fastest growing religious practice in America. Idiots...
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Tawny 09/28/2010 10:32:00 PM
First Baptist Church shut their doors on the children in their school? Are you sure?
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Steve Farrah 09/26/2010 9:07:00 PM
Muhhamed was a pedophile and a terrorist. This is public record. End of story.
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George Willis 09/16/2010 7:24:00 PM
This guy is a hoot! I feel sorry for his parishioners.
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Adam 09/10/2010 12:57:00 AM
The truth hurts. Islam is a religion of Evil. I have taken courses on Islam. Do not let them fool you. It is Satanic. Anything other than the teachings of Christ is doctrines of devils.
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just me 09/08/2010 4:29:00 PM
I was called for jury duty. One of the men in the jury pool was a man of middle Eastern discent. The trial involved a junior high school teacher who was accused of having a sex with a 14 year old student. The man said he would have trouble being on the jury since his ethic and religious background saw no problem with an adult man having sex with a teenager. I do think this reflects the pastor is correct about his claims that Islam promotes pedophilia
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o 09/08/2010 3:48:00 PM
agnosticism is a nice way of calling youself ignorant.
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Fuck Mohammed With Ham 09/08/2010 3:37:00 PM
Fuck Mohammed up his butt with a ham hock.
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Abdul Wahid Pulao 09/08/2010 1:41:00 AM
I am quoting the pastor's words verbatim:
"The New Testament does not teach hate and violence but instructs: 'For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.' First Baptist Dallas welcomes all people to follow Christ. We believe as the Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is the only path to a relationship with God."
Pastor you are clearly violating what the New Testament says. You said and zi quote," The NEw Testament does not teach hate and violence....". By slandering Islam by your own words,
"It is an evil religion," Jeffress said of Islam.
"It is an oppressive religion. It is a violent religion."
And it's leading its followers straight to hell.
Oh, and Islam promotes pedophilia.
You are teaching exactly opposite to the New Testament i.e. TEACHING HATE AND VIOLENCE. You know pastor, I am sure that if any ONE Muslim is going to HELL, he will only go after all the liers, hypocrites and hate mongers like you are stuffed in it. Huh! but then there will be no room for any Muslim to be sent to hell because here are a lot like you Pastor.
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Larry Terry 09/07/2010 11:55:00 PM
I always thought that a movie of the type of violence in the Old Testament would make an excellent horror movie.
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Put down the pot pipe, libtard 09/07/2010 9:43:00 PM
I really don't get why the naive white libtards at the Dallas Observer want to kiss Muslim ass so much. Most Muslims don't even look at your degenerate alcohol-and-prostitute-promoting rag. Muslims aren't supporting your advertisers in any significant amount, whatsoever! Muslims don't go to your fancy-pants white yuppie hipster artsy-fart places in "North Oak Cliff". The fact that you pretend that Muslims really don't promote pedophilia and incest, and the fact that you expect everyone else to also pretend that your naive ill-informed, flat-out factually incorrect Pollyanna Kumbaya dumbass hippie worldview takes the cake. Quit smoking pot, you will see and understand the unpleasant facts of reality much better.
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Louise Marshall 09/07/2010 9:07:00 PM
I'm astonished that you can look at Islam's treatment of women and then disagree that it is an oppressive, violent religion. Moreover, you can find plenty of mainstream reporting on the general acceptance of the sexual abuse of boys in Afgan society. You may not like what Jeffress said or the way he said it, but he's not entirely wrong.
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Dallas Observer Libtarded Cens 09/07/2010 7:54:00 PM
Amazing how you naive white libtard dipshits always delete the articles, from mainstream liberal news sources, that totally disprove your moronic viewpoints. Case in point: The article from the San Francisco Gate proving that Islam does actually in fact promote pedophilia. You also deleted the article from the times-uk that proves that Islam promotes cousin-marriage which is causing an epidemic of retard births in the UK and other countries with tons of Muslims. Thanks for the CENSORSHIP you naive white libtarded douche!
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That's gotta hurt 09/07/2010 7:47:00 PM
http://robert-lindsay.blogspot.com/2009/11/12-year-old-pakistani-boy-beheads-man.html?zx=bad59e4ce526b0f4
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Oh lookie, more facts 09/07/2010 7:45:00 PM
telegraph*co*uk/health/healthnews/7957808/700-children-born-with-genetic-disabilities-due-to-cousin-marriages-every-year*html
700 children born with genetic disabilities due to cousin marriages every year
More than 700 children are born with genetic diseases every year as a result of cousin marriages, an investigation has found.
By Rebecca Lefort
Published: 8:45AM BST 22 Aug 2010
Research shows the number of cousin marriages has risen dramatically in the UK over the last three decades.
The problem is worst among children born in Britain's Pakistani community, where more than half of marriages are between first cousins, and children are 10 times more likely than the general population to suffer genetic disorders.
The medical risks of first cousin marriages include higher rates of infant mortality, birth defects, learning difficulties, blindness, hearing problems and metabolic disorders.
As adults, the children born from first cousin marriages are at increased risk of miscarriage or infertility. A third of children affected die before their fifth birthday.
An investigation by Channel 4's Dispatches programme found that although more than 70 British studies have proved the risks, and 700 British Pakistani children are born with associated genetic diseases every year, many people deny the dangers.
Ann Cryer, the former Labour MP for Keighley, suffered abuse for trying to highlight the problems.
"It's a public health issue and we deal with public health issues by raising awareness, by talking about subjects such as obesity, such as drug addiction, such as alcohol," she said.
"But for some reason we're told that we mustn't talk about cousin marriages because this is a sensitive issue.
"I think it's absurd, we have to talk about it in order to find solutions."
Research shows the number of cousin marriages has risen dramatically in the UK over the last three decades, mainly between British Pakistanis, but also between first cousins in the British Bangladeshi community in which nearly a quarter of people marry their first cousins, and in some Middle Eastern and East African communities.
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Hey look at all those facts! 09/07/2010 7:44:00 PM
sfgate*com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H*DTL
Afghanistan's dirty little secret
Joel Brinkley
San Francisco Chronicle
Sunday, August 29, 2010
Yuri Cortez / AFP/Getty Images
"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."
Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."
All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.
For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.
"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."
Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.
President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.
As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."
He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.
In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."
So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?
Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.
"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."
Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"
That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.
Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.
But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.
"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."
As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."
© 2010 Joel Brinkley
Joel Brinkley is a professor of journalism at Stanford University and is a former Pulitzer Prize-winning foreign correspondent for the New York Times.
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david w stover 09/05/2010 2:51:00 PM
Hey Pat....read the Quran before you "pop off" about something you don't know. Also, it didn't seem to hurt BO when he attended a radicle church.
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The Plumber 09/04/2010 7:43:00 AM
It's a good thing that baptists aren't really full Christians. They're heathen and one of the lost sheep.
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Mikey 09/03/2010 10:03:00 PM
Religion and violence go hand in hand. They are all bad, and in this day and age anyone who believes the nonsense that continues to come from any and all religion is a fool. Religion as well as politics was a plan perfectly constructed since the dawn of man to keep a large body of people divided, because a divided people are a weak people, and a weak people can and will be lead to believe and do anything that a small group of power hungry maniacs tell them to.
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Pagan Perspective 09/03/2010 6:49:00 PM
What he said... what I hear! Life from the gay pagan perspective... "It is an evil religion," [Reverend Goshagyourself] said of [Southern Baptists]. "It is an oppressive religion. It is a violent religion." And it's leading its followers straight to hell.
Oh, and [Southern Baptist religion] promotes pedophilia.
(Statistically, more than 90% of child molesters are heterosexual, likewise more than 90% of Southern Baptists are heterosexual. Ergo, sum.)
[Reverend Goshagyourself] was responding to a parishioner's question about [White Southern Baptist Klansmen's] Christian violence [against African-Americans] during the Crusades versus Islamic jihads. Claims of [White Southern Baptist Klansmen's] Christian violence were overstated, [Reverend Goshagyourself] suggested, and besides, violent Christians [well, at least the ones who need to hide behind hoods and robes to oppress minorities, those who want local liquor stores, or for that matter, anyone else who isn't just like us, or at least put on their best Sunday and Wednesday Tammy Fay-Mary Kay plastic smiles] aren't proper Christians [bless their heaaarrrttts]. On the other hand, "[White Southern Baptists,(are there really any other kind) , when they commit violence, they are acting in accordance with what the [New American Standard Bible, (the Women's Missionary Union edition, pre-approved by the Convention, the pink leather bound one, with the all the pretty pictures of nekked cherubs in it,) that's my personal favorite]" he claimed. There's no call to violence in [our highly edited, Convention approved editions] of the New Testament [sanitized for your delusion... er protection], he said, neglecting to mention the [pesky incident with the money changers in the temple, after all for those of you not already using automatic withdrawal, we do have ATM's at every entrance for your tithing convenience] and the Old Testament, which contains enough Jehovah-endorsed gore to make Quentin Tarantino vomit. [We don't mention the Old Testament... unless we can't find enough oppressive drivel in the New Testament. Besides, the Old Testament is so much harder to produce in our Baptist Youth Ministry edition coloring book... And speaking of Color... PLEASE, don't ask me about Southern Baptist Convention's history of using the afore mentioned New Sanitized Standard edition Bible to condone the practice of slave
ownership in grand ol' Dixie.]
We wondered if Jeffress was being undiplomatic. If a pastor's duty is to gather in the lost sheep [shaggers, homosexuals, Catholics, and other miscellaneous obstacles to the Board of Mission's world domination... er'] to Jesus' fold, taking a whizz on [Judy Garland, the homo's] holy prophet, may not be the most persuasive way to go about it. Vinegar vs. [a nice white zinfandel is bait for the infidel], you know?
We put that question to [Goshagyourself] via e-mail, and received his response via First Baptist's minister of communication, [Reverend Jablowme, (another of those "Witchita" Fallen?}]:
"The New Testament does not teach hate and violence [we have a library full of Criswell's drivel to draw on for that] but instructs: 'For God so loved the world, that He gave His only [illegitimate little bastard... bless his heart] Son, that whoever believes [this fairuytale compellation], should not perish, but have [a very boring, but stylish] life.' First Baptist Dallas welcomes all [wealthy, straight, white]people to follow [Reverend Goshagyourself], [so long as the dress to kill, drive the most earth-raping, gas hogging SUV's on the planet, totally disregard any other St. Paul street driver's right of thoroughfare, and cross state lines before getting druelingly drunk and shop rentboy.com for a "travelling companion, and cruise the locker room of the Wacker Gym, and not the Downtown YMCA, like Criswell used to do."] We believe as the Bible clearly teaches that [building a monsterous, gaudy, temple of "our church is bigger, so we're better Christians than you] is the only path to [erasing any sign of that damn Chriswell guy that everybody keeps trying to compare me to."
Not exactly responsive, but that's fine, and we certainly didn't want to play a game of comparing body counts, [although, we do have the back issues of "Morbidity and Mortality Review" which shows according to CDC data, that religious oppresion certainly played a major role in the spread of HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis B, in the United States, especially in the early years of the Gay rights movement.] One of the nice things about [Paganism] is that it allows one to skip debates over which sauce is best for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, [not to mention all that "pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib rapture" crap.
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bigdandfw2000 09/03/2010 2:16:00 AM
If we,a s Christians, thought of the Old Testament as a group of historical stories and that the New Testament, especially the Gospels, are the parts we, as Christians, are meant to follow, shouldn't there be less anti-homosexuality in Christian churches?
The Greek words in 1st Corinthians and 1st Timothy don't translate specifically into "homosexuality" or even "homosexual behavior" as we know and understand it. And the passage in Romans talking about the results of idolatry certainly don't conform to homosexuality as an inherent trait. It speaks of men who were heterosexual becoming consumed with passion and insatiable lust for one another. The passage really seems to be talking about being against homosexuality as a result of excessive sexual activity, rather than the general behavior that homosexual people tend to engage in.
And the "man shall not lay with another man" stuff that gets trotted out frequently to condemn homosexuality is way back in Leviticus with the "don't cut the sides of your hair" and "don't wear clothes made out of two different kinds of material" stuff.
Personally, even as a committed Baptist (rather than a Baptist who should be committed), I think we tend to believe in the Bible to the extent that it supports our general view. We let the words reinforce what we believe and then discard anything that doesn't conform to our worldview.
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Byron Stuckey 09/02/2010 11:07:00 PM
Well, here is a more complete answer to your question.
Christians believe that the Old Testament must be read and interpreted in the light of the New Testament. Specifically, Christians believe that God's only son, Jesus, came to teach, live an example life, and to die for the sins of mankind. Jesus' teaching included endorsement and enlargement of much of the Old Testament Law - and Christians believed that, based upon those teachings, we are to obey those laws.
However, Jesus also fulfilled much of the requirements of the Law with his death on the cross, and to that extent, the Old Testament is to be understood by Christians as limited as a book of instruction and direction and to be seen as a series of historical stories of God's chosen people through whom Jesus, the Saviour, would be born.
By the way, Muslims are taught to interpret the Quoran in much the same way - that is, the more recent parts, if in conflict with the older writings within the book - are to supersede those older parts. It is in the more recent writings that Mohammed commands Muslims to commit themselves to Jihad and to permeating the world with Sharia Law.
You see, the Bible moves from violence to Love, while the Quoran moves from love to violence.
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David Whitten 09/02/2010 10:55:00 PM
If I were to guess, there have been more individuals killed in the name of Christ when compared with any other religion. Whores of the Gospel, pastors, tend to feed their congregants anything that fills the offering plates. These maggots will tell them that prosperity gospel is an acceptable religious practice. Why? They expect 10 per cent of God's bounty. Oink, oink, oink. Have you ever seen a Christian was not well-fed? Furthermore, you can always tell when you are in the presence of a successful pastor by the gross obesity. Ccongregants are willing to believe: that people can be raised from the dead; that people can defy the laws of physics and walk on water; or people can magically grow food on the spot. Hence, they will believe anything. The only thing that separates man from the animals, reason, is suspended when a leap of faith is chosen. So, slaughtering the sheep would be the best solution in my opinion. I support making any Xian into a martyr. Fuck them.
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Yusuf ibn Dean 09/02/2010 9:54:00 PM
First Ammendment rights. Do not forget the constitution!! I am a Muslim, and I think the Rev comments are consistant with popular opinion. Consider this, there are millions of us here, and this country is operating pretty well. Just be weary of reactionary statements Rev. Remember as Jesus (peace be upon him) "Let your yes be yes and your no be no. Anything more than this is from the devil" (Matthew 5:37) :)
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Bob 09/02/2010 6:32:00 PM
The people at First Baptist shut their doors on the children in their school because of money. What right do they have to spew any nonsense when they act in the name of the almighty dollar.
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Dandy Andy 09/02/2010 4:31:00 PM
Are any Baptists guilty of flying planes into buildings or committing suicide bombings? Are there any Baptists in the Mafia? Were Baptists responsible for the Spanish Inquisition? Any crimes committed by "Baptists" were overwhelmingly committed by individuals, isolated, and conceived by a twisted interpretation of the Bible. This is not so with Muslim terrorists and organized crime. I cannot understand why so many people fail to see the difference.
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Brittnay 09/02/2010 3:04:00 PM
Even the agnostics take offense to people spouting misinformed messages of hate. Have you ever even been to a mosque? I've never heard a hateful message there. Where as, I've been to Christian churches that are trying to teach people to hate non-Christians as well as gays and lesbians. But that's okay, that's not hateful at all. Christians, especially in Texas, seem to have habits of glossing over their not so friendly church histories. The fact is the Crusades were violent and bloody, and just downright terrible, and who were the main targets? Muslims and Jews. Looks like this pastor is going the way of Iran, let's just ignore the facts and makeup our own history!
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Reuben Owens 09/02/2010 2:19:00 PM
"One of the nice things about agnosticism is that it allows one to skip debates..."
... but you're not skipping it... you're inciting it. If you're an agnostic, what do you care what they choose to believe?
And, to be fair (assuming that's your goal), shouldn't you also see what hateful stuff Islamists teach in *their* mosque, too?
Let's compare how each religion is instructed to deal with unbelievers. You can pretty much end *that* conversation with one word: INFIDELS.
ROFLMAO!!!
