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Landfill Problems 10/22/2010 10:23:00 AM
In Kansas City, trash is consistently among the top citizen complaints. Landfill space is shrinking fast. And now the city's trash collection contractor is raising its prices. Kansas City is hoping to elbow its way out of the company's grasp and make some money doing it. Kansas City leaders may have shuttered the brothels and torn down the stockyards that once defined the town and the mobsters may have blown themselves up in disco bombings back in the '70s.
www.greenliving9.com/harmful-effects-of-landfills-solutions-to-landfill-problems.html
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Joshua 09/30/2010 11:06:00 PM
How about opening up the DISD buildings at night and holding adult education classes for the homeless. That way, the kids could see what life holds for them if they drop out without graduation, the jail prisoners could get community service credit for cleaning up the buildings, and they would be able to prepare to go on to college with the HUGE PUSH for NO BUM LEFT BEHIND program, obviously the next on the Bush/Obama agenda.
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Barney Frank 09/30/2010 11:02:00 PM
So sorry that these fine people missed out on a chance to get a no-money down, subprime mortgage new home in sunny California...just think how "home ownership" would have turned their lives around and made them into hard working responsible patriotic Americans.
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RUFUS LEVIN 09/30/2010 10:58:00 PM
Alternate plan. Load them all up on a few c-130s and haul them to Southern Mexico and drop them off there for the Mexican Economy to take care of them....like uh, "illegal homeless aliens.."
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RUFUS LEVIN 09/30/2010 10:55:00 PM
Make them all into DISD high school principals under the new Bush Institute Principal rehab and drying out plan.
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ConZilla 09/29/2010 11:56:00 PM
I read this article thinking it would be funny. It kind of is. However I found that it made me really think about this problem.
Many people choose to be homeless because they don't want to work or have responsiblity. Hell, some days I wish I had the balls to be homeless! Some are mentally ill and need treatment. That would make a lovely article, about the paltry mental health system in our country. Then there are some who are truly down on their luck. Those tend to be the ones seriously looking for a way out.
Perhaps one answer is to work on removing the stigma of homelessness. If you want to be homeless, have at it. If you don't, participate in the many programs that exist to get you headed down the right path.
I think people have the right to be homeless. However they need to be held accountable legally when they panhandle, urinate on property and commit various other crimes.
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Newspaper Lady 09/28/2010 7:01:00 PM
Jim...some years ago we had a number of meetings to discuss the issue of Homelessness... I know you would never propose to actually kill Anyone ! Interesting how many of your readers thought it a good idea...I miss Dallas and my advocacy for the Homeless...Unfortunently people with NO compassion live all over this world ....here in New Orleans too...May God always Bless them so they never have to experience Homelessness..
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Mary Ann Mills Fiero 09/25/2010 7:59:00 PM
As I have read these comments about the homeless I get really very sick at my stomach. It is only by the grace of God that my family is not in the same position. Everyone complains about people holding up signs on street corners, no one really knows the real reason why they are there. We seem to only assume that these people are just to lazy to look for a job. God forbid that you lose your job and be put in their position. Our government send billions yo countries over seas and toompanies here in the US that have caused this surge of homess.Ourgovernment has also seen fit so do away with many of the health care plans that use to take care of people of mental instability and now the only place they have to go is the street and a life of begging for food and aplace to live. The next time you pass one on the street look at the and remember that this could be you someday. Then dig into your pocket for a quater or a dollar and remember that this person may be one of Gods angels.
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Bart Johnson 09/19/2010 3:01:00 PM
Killing isn't the only answer. There's deportation. That appears to have worked for Flower Mound, thank goodness. Not a big homeless problem up here. I saw one once for a few weeks, and then he dissappeared. Don't see a lot in Willow Bend or Highland Park, either.
So don't forget deportation. Or giving them jobs in the field of medical experimentation. And wine tasting. Grapevine, I'm looking at you. Let's keep our options open.
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Jonathan S. 09/16/2010 2:32:00 AM
We have a similar problem where I live. Your proposal, while modest, has merit.
-J. Swift
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Dallas Diner 09/13/2010 4:46:00 PM
Alan & Gloria: I blush. DD
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dave 09/12/2010 10:12:00 AM
How you gonna spend your way out of that mindset? And for goodness sakes would you idiots stop spending other people’s money? You're infuriating all the intelligent people. Someones kid will have to pay for the van and the burgers and the MD-20-20 to clean out your silly creek. How about if you joggers take a work day and clean your own lake, creek and spillway? That is a mess over there and we’re tired of seeing it.
Who can deny someone the ability to work, or work the system? You party with the same people at the same clubs anyway. The longest lasting, most expensive war ever waged, has been the war on poverty. Statistically we have the same percentage of poor.
Is it really so difficult to believe that they simply choose that lifestyle? Should we feel compelled to “fix it”? You can’t fix crafty, manipulative, immature or lazy either. And the .05% mentally ill folks. We need to find their families and not their neighborhood tax base.
As for enabling them or disabling them, the city should discourage it to the best of their ability, while not violating their Constitutional Right to be homeless, wake up at 10:00, get a free meal at the Mission, and chill with the other folks who have casual schedules, or we could shoot them, but I think crossbows would be the more sporting weapon over firearms if we go that route. Overall I give it a “thumbs up”.
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bed and breakfast 09/08/2010 12:34:00 AM
or, we could just give them our guest rooms, feed them, clothe them and provide them a leg up for a fresh start. one at a time of course, but i'm sure that if enough people truly cared, then there would no longer be a problem.
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gloria 09/07/2010 10:36:00 PM
love the nod to swift! hahahaha!!!
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Alan 09/07/2010 10:24:00 PM
And the trophy goes to DallasDiner, the only commenter who recognized the literary and substantive reference to Jonathan Swift's classic satire, "A Modest Proposal." Read it, people!
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Jessie 09/07/2010 9:26:00 PM
WOW, i understand no one likes homeless people, but kill them? If you are in a big city get used to it. I cant believe that Jim Schutze said what he said in this story. I personally dont care for homeless people, they get on my nerves too. If you want to some poor people dead so bad why dont you join to fight in Afganistan.
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Bill 09/07/2010 10:17:00 AM
As a taxpayer here in Oak Cliff I've paid enough. I'm going to sell my home, thereby making myself homeless, quit my job, therefore without funds to support myself, and move into the downtown shelter. I can hangout at the library close by, have free internet, live tax-free, rent free, carefree on everyone else's dime.
Shoot, I've earned it, let the city pay for my keep (you taxpayers), It's alright, there's no incentive to work as much as they take. I'm only taking back what's mine.
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NRICK311 09/06/2010 8:23:00 PM
I'm not sure if this is a viable option, but, we avoid the homeless coming at you for handout, like the Plague!
So, Let's send them down to the US/Mexico Border to deter people trying to sneak across, at least that would deter illegals and show them that things in the 'Land of Opportunity' isn't all it's cracked up to be................What?..No good.
Ok, how about send them down there with shopping carts and build a wall of shopping carts.......wait,wait. Then we would see a mass influx of shopping centers with freshly stocked carts back on their lots.................... Damn, well let the hunting season BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or turn them in to the State Recycling Program, I hear another Stimulus Package brewing.
Turn in a Homeless person and receive $50,000 USD in Tax Energy Credit* and then add another $20,000 USD for Tax Refund (Only for taxpayers, not tax-takee,(what? Offended? Then get off your ass and work for a change. Trust me, You voted for Hope and Change. You just hope you a have enough change in your pockets for menthols)
I got off the tracks there, so Open Season for Homeless.
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Good Essay, Schutze 09/06/2010 5:23:00 PM
Schutze, your proposition is preposterous. Yet, many commenters here feel that committing the homeless to some kind of work camp situation is acceptable. Forced labor? Is that not the gateway drug that eventually leads to concentration camps and extermination?
In short, who is being preposterous here? Perhaps Schutze is pointing out we like features of Fascism but somehow our good, old American Protestant values won't let us call the intermediate drugs for what they are. Face it, fellow Protestants, we fear people who don't appear to own property.
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tater 09/06/2010 12:43:00 AM
1. Quit calling them homeless, they're BUMS.
2. Give a man a fish, he'll keep coming back wanting sushi.
3. Turn the Downtown Lieberry into a Bum House.
4. Outlaw the doogooders feeding the stray bums
5. Wanna eat? Quit trashing downtown and start cleaning up. NOW you get to eat.
6. New city ordinance makes it legal to splat bums with paintballs.
7. One way bus tix to..........the Panhandle.
I got more but I gotta go buy paintballs..........
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cliff manor homeless crack add 09/05/2010 9:47:00 PM
they don't need to kill us, how about giving us cool jobs that mesh with the north oak cliff vibe...
- use homeless people as bike racks
- we can clean dumpsters that can be converted to swimming pools
- we can create urban gardens on highway medians
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tnteyes 09/05/2010 3:57:00 PM
The programs do help the ones who WANT TO improve their situation. We should offer those programs to help the ones who are willing to help themselves (translation: work for a living). The rest should not receive sympathy or money or free anything.
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The Plumber 09/04/2010 8:07:00 AM
Put them to work! I kinda gree with Jennifer. Give them their meals and provide programs to help but make them all work in the meanwhile. The hardworking ones will get back on their feet and the lazy ones will get tired of being rounded up to work and move on to out of Dallas.
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jennifer 09/04/2010 1:45:00 AM
i realize this article was meant to be tounge-in-cheek and sarcastic, even satirical, but it really just came off as offensive. i get your point but i fear that there are those out there who are dense enough to think you are serious.
that being said, i've worked with the homeless for quite some time in toronto, canada (where homelessness is a HUGE issue). i've worked in soup kitchens, etc. it really does help to have programs available. ignoring the issue of homelessness or trying (time and time again) to all but outlaw it will never work. those who succeed in moving on are usually aided by these kinds of programs. without them the problem just grows and multiplies.
and seriously, you'd be out there killing homeless people like... all the freaing time. it would grow tiresome.
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Eric Celeste 09/04/2010 12:04:00 AM
I don't know why Wick Allison always said people don't get sarcasm online.
P.S., may God bathe you in hellfire, Jim Schutze.
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Doug 09/03/2010 9:25:00 PM
Jim,
It's easy...get yourself elected like..oh I don't know...President for Life...than buy a bunch of vans...hire people to drive around picking up the homeless (serious consideration will have to be given as to how to determine that exactly). The drivers promise a free meal and a ride to a place that needs some clean up (they get to keep all the recyclables they find). BUT, what you don't tell them is the exhaust from the van is secretly routed into the back of the van. SECRETLY drive them to the land fill, dump the (dead) load and repeat. Yes, I admit it...I sorta stole this from Adolf...but I'm not looking for a patent.
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Mortgage Guy 09/03/2010 8:45:00 PM
Jim, your friend's experience points out a very real problem - that being residential profiling and the unwarranted targeting (literally) of people who just "look" homeless. It would be a return to the old "shoot first, as for address later" mentality. The law will have to be very strict, in that you can only check someone's residential status if they have been stopped or arrested for some other legitimate cause. Only if further inspection reveals them to be homeless can they be shot.
However, this is all a moot point, in that there is another solution right under our very noses. I happen to know for a fact, bacause I read it in a free weekely with a skanky back page, that there will soon be a large number of sparsely populated neighborhoods in Arizona. I say, after you evict a rent paying (or better yet, property owning) illegal, give his place to a homeless guy. It's win /win! And, by the time the homeless guy falls off his meds and goes back to the street, the illegal will be back. It'll be like a time-share.
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Montemalone 09/03/2010 8:39:00 PM
Soylent Green.
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DB 09/03/2010 7:27:00 AM
Maybe we should swap out some smart, but unfortunately homeless, people for some of the stupid people who have homes and - gasp - Internet access, who apparently barely know how to read, much less how to understand biting sarcasm of, this kind of article and not take it seriously (as if - too much paperwork to kill off all the homeless), and make the stupid ones give the homeless ones their homes as they trade places and become homeless themselves. Don't worry - the sentence structure of that comment was so complex only smart homeless people need to try and understand.
That way, the homeless people would be too stupid to know they were going to be killed off.
Can't fix stupid.
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Ahab 09/03/2010 3:39:00 AM
Killing them outright seems cruel. Maybe we could do it like the SPCA does and bring them to a special facility where they get held for adoption. Now we get to see if all the liberal cry babies can walk the talk. If they don't get adopted after a week, well...
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Dallas Diner 09/03/2010 2:43:00 AM
We could always follow the lead of Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal for Preventing the Children of Ireland From Becoming a Burden to Their Parents" and eat them. Some of them are already pickled.
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09/03/2010 2:12:00 AM
As I have biked down the White Rock Trail, noting the trash in the creek, observing the homeless camps around Skillman and Abrams I have often wondered about the hiring of the homeless to aid in clean up. Since they are down there anyway and seem to have a lot of time on their hands we could entice them to clean up the trash by rewarding them with the choice of their favorite beverage be it a 6 pack of malt liquor, or a bottle of Mad Dog 20 20, or even a bottle of T J Swan’s Mellow Nights.
They would turn in their daily trash allotment and receive a coupon that could be redeemed at the local store for their efforts. Of course I can hear councilman Caraway and Atkins moaning about this already (as they are against the up coming vote on expanding liquor sales in Dallas); but, I would think that both sides could come up a winner! The city gets the areas clean (at a minimal cost) and the homeless get what they really want.
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09/03/2010 1:55:00 AM
As I have biked down the White Rock Trail, noting the trash in the creek, observing the homeless camps around Skillman and Abrams I have often wondered about the hiring of the homeless to aid in clean up. Since they are down there anyway and seem to have a lot of time on their hands we could entice them to clean up the trash by rewarding them with the choice of their favorite beverage be it a 6 pack of malt liquor, or a bottle of Mad Dog 20 20, or even a bottle of T J Swan’s Mellow Nights.
They would turn in their daily trash allotment and receive a coupon that could be redeemed at the local store for their efforts. Of course I can hear councilman Caraway and Atkins moaning about this already (as they are against the up coming vote on expanding liquor sales in Dallas); but, I would think that both sides could come up a winner! The city gets the areas clean (at a minimal cost) and the homeless get what they really want.
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GatoCat 09/03/2010 12:05:00 AM
Frank, you and "Other Jay" are the same person, right? Either that, or you both used the same proofreader.
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Context matters 09/02/2010 11:48:00 PM
Millet is one of those evil Christians that get regularly mocked by the tolerant folks at the Dallas Observer. Why can't he be a groovie Muslim? That's the religion all the hipsters are paying lip service to these days.
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Move them in with you, Jim 09/02/2010 11:43:00 PM
Killing them is a great idea but a better idea is for all the homeless to move to Jim Schutze's house.
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eva woods 09/02/2010 10:14:00 PM
Wow. I just... wow. A modest proposal that I would love to see reprinted in any city with a large homeless population. I would really hope though, that my fellow angelenos might get the joke better than some of the previous commenters:)
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CJ 09/02/2010 9:05:00 PM
This article is disgusting. I regret having spent 5 mins of my life reading it. I sure hope noone reads this and moves forward killing innocent people. If anyone is more vulnerable than most it is the homeless.
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Billy 09/02/2010 8:21:00 PM
A deep, dark depression encircled and finally enveloped me 35 years ago. It was a depression so black that I ended up on the streets and homeless, and there I stayed for 3 1/2 years. I am fortunate because one day the blackness ended and I simply didn't want to be where I was anymore. Today, I am a Paramedic and have been for almost 15 years. There is absolutely no difference between 'them' and 'us'. Sometimes, when a man has lost his wife and child, the coping mechanism just isn't there; and it takes time. Give people a chance and don't condemn so easily.
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JimS 09/02/2010 6:55:00 PM
Are you thinking easy death, like injection or something, or maybe death with some serious pain, like pulling them apart with horses. Just wondered, looking for ideas.
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Tim Covington 09/02/2010 2:59:00 PM
I concur. We should kill the homeless. As a matter of fact, we should have a homeless hunting season. We could advertise Dallas as the place where people could come and hunt the most dangerous game of all, man!
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Milkman Dan 09/02/2010 2:44:00 PM
Would it be considered too "forced-labor campish" to require that those who wish to stay in the Bridge each evening participate in some sort of societal-enhancement project each week? You know, load up a few buses each morning in Downtown and haul the men AND women down to... say... White Rock Creek. I hear there is a SHITLOAD of trash there. Big project. Hell, I bet AT&T would donate equipment/bags/waders/etc. The handicapped could man the water coolers and help with lunch, the able could get some sort of exercise and maybe feel productive, and something useful would be accomplished for the city. I can dream...
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Other Jay 09/02/2010 10:04:00 AM
Ok, Killing them would solve the problem right away. The problem with that is there will always be the people that feel sorry for them that give them a dollar and go about there way, instead of giving them that dollar make them earn that dollar. If they are hungry buy them a burger if they say, clean your car or pick up the trash in the parking lot. What I'm saying is this if they don't want to try to better them selves and get a job or get off the streets then the need to be loaded up and placed in a Building of sorts and given a choice, try to get a maintain a job or dangle from that noose. Your choice. And before those bleeding hear bible thumpers jump in a say your going to hell and all that for being so heartless, try getting mugged by a homeless guy or your car or work getting vandalized by the homeless. They should be given a chance to get better if they need to be put in mental institutions then put them their. If they are just lazy and don't want to work then hang'em and get it over with. Make it illegal to be homeless with the death penalty being if your a repeat offender. Solves problems makes it so that people aren't paying for there care with there tax dollars.
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Frank 09/02/2010 7:40:00 AM
God Dam all you evil assholes. You think just because someone is mentally ill or has been less fortunate that you, their a piece of shit. Thank ol Ronald R for cutting the budget of federal dollars to state hospitals so the rich could get richer, the hospital is where most of them would be. Thanks for reminding us what an idiot Miller was / is.
May God send you all to Hell!, then you will know how their lives are.
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Daniel Hopkins 09/02/2010 7:39:00 AM
Interesting to see where this story shines the spotlight. It isn't on the homeless, it's on the rest of us home people. I think the previous comments have missed the point. How do we deal with a problem that won't ever go away? Perhaps the problem is in us.
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Diana Powe 09/02/2010 7:31:00 AM
Thanks to Jay for a perfect depiction of the fantasy of individualism that befouls and befogs the minds of so many Americans. "If those useless slackers would start being self-empowering LIKE ME then they wouldn't scare me at traffic lights!" The only truly non-enabled in the world are those who live on their own land, raise their own food, draw their own water, make their own clothes, generate their own power and never travel on any publicly-owned way like, say, "Mockingbird Ln and 75".
In the meantime, thank you for your clear-eyed reporting, Jim. I think Jonathan Swift would approve.
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The Plumber 09/02/2010 4:22:00 AM
I say, put them to work. Send the police in their paddywagons each morning and wherever there are panhandlers and homeless, round them up and put them to work washing the police cars, breaking rocks or just getting the sand and gravel mix ready for any winter storm. They'll leave onve they get tired of getting picked up.
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Jay 09/02/2010 3:55:00 AM
Thumbs up! The homeless have been annoying me for years since I moved from the H-E-B suburbs to near downtown Dallas. It's not just annoyance but also a safety factor. You have no idea what the homeless guy on the corner of Mockingbird Ln and 75 is going to do when he walks in between the cars with his/her "God Bless" cardboard sign. My 1st experience was with one that talked to himself while I was in my old Jeep with the top down and doors off. If I was with a girlfriend or wife, I would have been quite anxious. Instead, I watched and paid attention to him while I was gripping my 18" Maglite with my free hand.
Possible illnesses or "worthy" reasons behind their being on the street, the point is they are not contributing to society. In fact, they are more of a detriment because certain funds are being directed to combat/help them.
I liken it to the adult son/daughter that works and "lives on their own." For a few months they have called mom and/or dad asking for money to cover their end-of-month bills. Parents come to find out that the son/daughter has been making quite enough money to support themselves but they have a drug/drinking/gambling/shoe/electronics habit that they've been using their income for instead of their REAL responsibilities. The parents still pay for the child. It's called enabling. That's what we are doing for the homeless. Every time some bleeding heart gives them a dollar or gives them a place to stay for the night encourages the homeless to not try and better themselves or just end their suffering with a leap of faith off the Hi-Five. I know many Krogers in the area that hire just about ANYONE as a sacker (non-PC for courtesy clerk).
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Oak Cliff Taxpayer 09/02/2010 1:16:00 AM
great article. the last point is dead on - the city is disgusing the homeless deadbeats as "home dweller" and sticking them in Cliff Manor.
We know better - these deadbeats don't belong in Cliff Manor any more than they do in Preston Hollow where the DHA board members live. Its all a ploy to clean up downtown before the Super Bowl.