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06/14/2011 11:20:00 PM
hellow butch i had to comment i aggre about lazzy but as an american worker out of work and looking the illegal workers i am talking about make 300-.00 dollars a day cant or wont speak english donot understand industrial safty are a danger to themselves and others i can at any time call between 8 and 15 trained journeyman welders boilermakers ironworkers with tools transportation and desire to work at that wage it might not be enough for you but its damn good money to us american construction workers
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01/23/2011 3:38:00 AM
An aggressive campaign against Immigrant families will be perceived by Hispanics throughout America as being anti Hispanic, anti American. Should that happen, 2012 willl bring out in droves the Latino Hispanic vote. Republicans cannot afford to isolate themselves from still the fastest growing population in America and not all of that growth comes from 'illegal aliens".The hate mongering did not help Tancredo or Angle and it will not help the Republican Party.
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Jack 01/06/2011 2:06:00 AM
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
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Sparky583-mcmonkey 12/30/2010 3:45:00 PM
"If you only knew Berman from his birther bill, you might be surprised by him in person. He does not come across as a Gomer-talking demagogue,"
Simply amazing what pass's as journalism these days
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12/30/2010 3:00:00 PM
My question is how many of those here illegally would conform to any system
that required them to be documented in anyway ?
They piss and moan about any identification as it is.
How many criminals would actually apply for citizenship ?
Very few I would imagine.
http://www.fortworthpd.com/docmgmt/ColdCaseOutstanding.pdf
Should these folk be given amnesty ? Their children , their relatives ?
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Mexican men are cowards 12/29/2010 6:17:00 PM
The mexican men are cowards. They just kidnapped the last officer in guadalupe who is female. Just cowards. Then they come over here unbelievable. COWARDS. The women are stronger than the men. They just want to cut grass.
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k bailey 12/29/2010 6:04:00 PM
Here's some food for thought regarding the ad nauseam perpetuated fallacy that American’s won't do the jobs that illegal immigrants will do.
Liberals trumpet amnesty sooner rather than later, many, if not most must want open borders too, because the natural course and consequence when you extrapolate from their their stated goals leads to yet more amnesties further down the road. They want amnesty now instead of first enacting tough enforcement measures that must prove their effectiveness. It's important to note for my following analysis that liberals are also the ones wanting to raise minimum wage.
The solution starts with supply and demand economics 101.
So what happens when the illegal labor force is greatly diminished? Employers must still produce the goods they've relied on illegals to do correct? Employers only recourse is to raise pay to attract labor. The beauty of free enterprise is that a natural equilibrium is always found based on market forces. It's the micro management through politics (the layering on of dysfunctional policies) combined with not enforcing laws already on the books that lead to the market inefficiencies we have today.
There's plenty of Americans that will do the jobs only illegals are doing now if the market is allowed to work the way it's supposed to. Sure, these are the sorts of things that create inflation, but even that is controlled by market forces as companies compete, their leadership must make cuts through either salaries at the top, or creating other efficiencies that make their respective companies competitive, or go out of business.
The rhetoric that American's won't do the jobs illegals do is bogus and intellectually lazy or flat out dishonest, it ignores tried and true self correcting economic mechanisms that work when they're allowed to.
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Renegade 12/29/2010 5:24:00 PM
I knew this was propoganda the minute I saw you listing Charles Schumer as a moderate...that is pure BS !
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Anna_nim 12/29/2010 4:45:00 PM
I was a mature adult during the first big amnesty and we were promised that under no circumstances would there be another amnesty!! I believe it is easily possible to to cause self deportation, by placing huge fines against those who hire illegals. No one can say what job Americans will or will not do. You only have to look at the coal mines to see real Americans taking filty risky jobs to see what some are willing to do. When I was a child, I saw real Americans on road crews, building homes, laying carpeting, some even in landscaping. I see none of that anymore in Texas. Illegal aliens HAVE taken lots of jobs away from Americans. One apartment complex I lived in (in Dallas, TX) actually rented an apartment to house an entire illegal landscaping crew dormatory style. I forced management to get them out. The men were hanging over the patio balcony cat calling at 11 and 12 year old girls in the swimming pool. This apartment complex had once been very nice.
Over thirty years ago, in El Paso, I witnessed women crossing the border and visiting an obstetrics clinic to have their babies barely this side of the border. I am very angry over all of this, The fat cats who are allowing this don't deal with it at the level some of us do. Our family once had a friend here from Denmark who was on a Nanny visa. She was deported so fast it would make your head swim, when her job didn't pan out. It didn't matter that she tried to get another job, that real Americans were willing to take full responsibility for her. She was an intelligent girl, and very law abiding. She left when she was told.
Years ago, when my ex stopping paying child support and health insurance, I had to take my child to Parkland hospital to get care. I still had to pay, but less and as I could. I stood in line with illegals the entire day long into the night. When they were asked for money, they just said, "No denero."
There is no such thing as illegal immigrants, only illegal aliens. I knew a man who could well afford to pay his landscaping crew a decent salary, but maybe he wouldn't have been able to take the expensive long vacation to Europe every year. How did we ever manage when only one parent worked and people hired other real Americans?? How did we do it when jobs weren't also outsourced overseas?
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Rich8448 12/29/2010 4:03:00 PM
I vote for mass deportation, strict border enforcement
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Carbisunit 12/29/2010 11:30:00 AM
If the workers or immigrants illegally crossing our borders are such good workers and have something to add to betterment of civilization, why don't they stay home and improve their own countries. They can't be too poor if they can afford to pay upwards of $3000 to illegal guides to get them here. No sympathy here. Thank you.
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Wishiwasatthelake 12/29/2010 8:13:00 AM
I worked with illegals at a factory in Texas because they could pay them less, they got fake IDs and even driver liscense for $20 dollars. I worked with one who took off every Tue. to meet with his probtion officer in Dallas. I asked what for and it was assult charge, another had been in the US for 14 yr. still played like he couldn't speak english and supervisors would tell me what to tell him with him beside me and when they walked away I would laugh and say you got that. He was in our court system to paying child suport to a ex-wife in new York I think. But the best is woman working for TSA who's husband had a construction business would hire a group of guys, get the IRS to assign numbers so he could pay taxes on them. When the wife tried to get her husband to turn then in to Immigration he laughed and said he would be breaking the IRS rule of privacy and they know where they are. Any truth to this is a good as I hear stuff.
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12/29/2010 5:50:00 AM
We have an oversupply of labor and criminals NOW,Mass deportation PLUS E-verify,plus very tight border security is the solution
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12/29/2010 4:17:00 AM
You are an idiot.
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Anyone 12/29/2010 2:51:00 AM
I like the e-verification system and think that much like European borders it should be easy to cross with verified documentation. That would have to go hand-in-hand with the repeal of the portion of the 14th amendment giving automatic citizenship to persons born within the borders unless that person is born to parents that are already citizens. It no longer takes 4 months to get here and we no longer have an untamed West to conquer. Some sort of amnesty to those already here must be granted but there must be penalties attached for breaking the existing laws with a longer path to citizenship than those who have come here legally.
That being said I would want the penalty for attempting to cross without documentation to be severe and possibly fatal. Instead of our military being used in Korea, Okinawa, Germany, etc. and of course the hell hole that is Afghanistan, use them to secure our own borders. To attempt to enter the country without documentation and/or circumvent legal crossing areas is simply to be treated as an invasion.
With the e-verification of SIM chip/bar code possible then any employer of undocumented workers would also face severe penalties.Verification systems could be obtained by large employers and offered as a public service by counties for small employers. A public company found in violation would be in jeopardy of their CEO and board being summarily fired without a parachute in addition to fines high enough to make the stock holder's feel it in their pocketbooks. A privately held company or farm would become the property of the state.
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LUCYGALLEGOS82 12/28/2010 10:08:00 PM
TEXAS MESTIZO, YOU SAID IT NO ONE COULD OF SAID IT BETTER. THATS ALL TRUE!!!!
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LUCYGALLEGOS82 12/28/2010 10:04:00 PM
DON ,PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SPELL! ARE YOU AMERICAN?
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LoneStar Son 12/28/2010 9:23:00 PM
For many years I leaned more liberal regarding immigration status for illegal aliens. Today however I'm leaning to the right more and more. Agriculture runs deep in my veins, all of my forefathers were farmers and as such employed illegal aliens to work the crops and harvest. It wasn't the wage they paid it was the work involved that many Americans today will not do, as stated in the article. Construction however hot issue. I know many contractors who have had to turn to illegal aliens only because their competitors have and are cutting their overall costs. During the economic downturn the devestation to the construction industry was incredible. Enforcement is going to be key to opening up those jobs and yes increasing costs of goods to everyone here. Even illegal aliens must spend money here to survive.
The US should follow the lead of other countries where children born to foreign nationals are themselves foreign nationals. Once the parents of children under the age of 21 are granted citizenship then they also may be granted citizenship if they so choose to file for their children. Those over 21 whose parents are granted citizenship would be able to apply and be granted citizenship based on the number of years in residency with their parents. As for the "Dream" legislation, I think its a good pathway for anyone to gain citizenship.
To say that Latin nationals are not coming here to use our social services needs look no farther than our own Parkland Memorial Hospital. They birth more children under one roof than any other hospital in the nation. Dallas isn't the most populace city by a large margin, why is our birthrate so high? Walk the hallways and look at the patients and the children born and see what the majority of new Texas residents look like and yes they do qualify for federal and state aid.
Is it prejudicial to mark all Latinos illegal aliens? Not unless the country can come up with a way to mark all citizens at birth or naturalization. Prejudice exists because of frustration, fear, and ignorance of a given race or ethnic group. Don't point fingers at the Anglos unless you take a close look within you and ask, "am I prejudiced against Anglos?” In Texas the Anglo population is becoming the minority, Hispanic voters are a force to be looked to for the future of this state, however even they must ask themselves who will pay for all of the social services that are a burden on this state now and in the future? It will be they who will be opening their checkbooks and sending those dollars to Austin.
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k bailey 12/28/2010 7:49:00 PM
You don't need mass deportation if a solid E-verify system is put in place, the reason is simple, if illegals can't find jobs they will go back to Mexico on their own, or other country as the case may be. Statistically there's been some decrease in illegals in the country in the last couple years, that likely has little to do with better enforcement, but rather the job situation being so bleak. This serves a good evidence for where a solution can be found, E-verify, make it almost impossible to get jobs and the problem will diminish greatly.
Also, until enforcement is beefed up substantially there's not going to be overwhelming support for any form of amnesty, it just invites the same problem all over agin a few years down the road, so let's stop this phony notion that amnesty is any kind of solution. Perhaps way down the road AFTER the before mentioned steps occur amnesty can be discussed rationally with some context.
Beef up fencing in high traffic corridors will also help, remote areas serve as there own deterrence and easier for ground enforcement to observe.
So let's do some common sense thinking and cut through some of the BS politics
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Don 12/28/2010 5:42:00 PM
Mexican come to America to have babies with American girls that don't know they have lots of kids and wifes in Mexico and they want to get legal and leave the American girls high and dry with half bred kids and they bring there Mexican familys here for the American Gov't to take care of!!
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Cedar Springs 12/28/2010 5:31:00 PM
Debbie Riddle has serious problems. How can she possibly function as a legislator. or does the Republican leadership just roll their eyes when she speaks with them.
This immigration reform bill will turn out to be the Republican's Waterloo.
Hormel Foods will need to cease all operations. Tyson probably the same.
If you think these two heavy hitting republican Fortune 100 companies are going to stand by and let the nutty right wingers put them out of business you are mistaken.
In the upcoming 2012 election look for an all out latino vote shift to the democrats. If ever the republicans wanted to energize the latino vote, they found the worst way to do it.
Oh and as for Riddle and her ilk, this is their Last Hurrah. With 50% of the state being latin, it wouldn't take much of a democratic get out the vote to send Riddle back to the fruit-stand where she belongs. Where her next remarks will be that'll be 5 dollars for the tomatoes and the onions, sir!
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Tdaljohn 12/28/2010 3:08:00 PM
Mexicans come to America have babies free
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Dgano 12/28/2010 1:30:00 PM
If there weren't so many ILLEGAL mexicans they wouldn't be seeking them out!
They are not undocumented workers... they are ILLEGAL workers!
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Jon 12/28/2010 10:31:00 AM
"She also beat other anti-immigrant rights lawmakers to the punch by being first this upcoming session to introduce a bill denying the right to vote to American citizens who fail to produce required photo identification cards."
First, anti-immigrant rights? That is an intentional misrepresentation. This country has citizens wither you came here as an immigrant or were naturally born, you are a citizen and have all the rights and freedoms this country allows. Illegal immigrants however do not since they are not citizens. They are criminals who snuck over here illegally. They should be treated like what they are. Not citizens, criminals.
Second, denying voting rights to american citizens who fail to produce a required photo I.D.
Yeah and what's wrong with that? In my state a photo I.D. is required to vote. This law only prevents ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from voting, not citizens. Citizens already have photo I.D.'s or are allowed to obtain them if not. This law ensures the sanctity of our voting booths. You can't even rent a movie from a store(not online) unless you show some photo I.D. So are you saying renting a movie should require more screening than voting? Their arguments against this are "That only keeps poor people from voting, conservatives hate the poor." First off, photo I.D's aren't that expensive. Secondly, if that was your real concern then why aren't you fighting to lower the costs of those I.D.'s? Because it's not about the cost and you know it, it's about liberals trying get illegals to vote for them and make a sham out of our elections.
So to sum up. If you are a citizen you have all the rights that that entails. If you are not a citizen, you don't have any rights in this country. Showing some proof of legal status should be required to vote in every state.
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Drbenningfield 12/28/2010 8:40:00 AM
THREE PRESIDENTS
No one in either party has the courage to do this.
Three Presidents
What did Presidents Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?
This is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me.
Back during the great depression, Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.
Harry Truman deported over two million illegal aliens after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.
In 1954 Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexicans. The program was called Operation Wetback. It was done so WWII and Korean veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took two years, but they deported them!
Now if they could deport the illegal aliens back then, they could sure do it today. If you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.
Why you might ask can't they do this today? Actually the answer is quite simple. Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower were men of honor, not untrustworthy politicians looking for votes!
Don Benningfield
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12/28/2010 5:08:00 AM
Applicants for naturalization must also be able to read, write, and speak the English language. Persons who are physically unable to comply due to a permanent physical or developmental disability, or permanent mental impairment are exempt from the literacy requirements.
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12/28/2010 5:03:00 AM
That excuse is over.Blacks have become the major moneymakers in sports and music.They have all the benefits of the racist affirmative action.time to move on with this "owed" crap!!
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12/28/2010 5:00:00 AM
A requirement of becoming a US citizen is to learn English.You just wasted two pages.Google it,fool!Oh yeah,y'all don't care about US citizenship,it's all about reconquista!!
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Efflores7 12/28/2010 4:08:00 AM
Eduardo___legal migrant worker since 1950
For Butch, no one is asking an illegal immigrant to learn English just like nobody would force you to learn Spanish if you immigrated to a Latin American country. However, just read our U.S. Constitution to find out the language that our founding forefathers spoke and wrote. Also, check out the textbooks for law school, medical school, nursing school or even to be a licensed auto mechanic. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Yet, I as a legal migrant worker become U.S. citizen and learned English, I am very proud of the Judeo-Christian values that our founding fathers wrote into our Constitution. Our present Congress and president have done much to put America in a moral free fall through some very ill-conceived and politically motivated policies.
I am all for English as the official language of America, but not as the only language that can be spoken at home, at work, at the mall, at a flea market, at church gatherings, etc. Having said that, I believe that a comprehensive immigration policy should not include amnesty or any form of it. Just check out the mess of over 12 million forged documents dumped on the Immigration Department back in 1986 during the Reagan Administration. No database system for checking illegal immigrants at the city, state or federal levels was ever developed. That was a huge fiasco that opened the door to the Congresses that followed to develop no effective policy toward immigration. Jim Schultze, who wrote the article we are commenting on has not done his complete homework. For instance, he rarely speaks of the cost to state budgets for incarcerating a criminal illegal alien, ($50,000 per year in Texas alone), the added burden of American citizens paying for free schooling, free breakfast and free lunch at schools, and medical services at charity hospitals. Also, he has never mentioned the drain in American dollars sent to the illegal immigrant's family in their country of origin. For example, the Tax Foundation reported that in 2007, the second highest profit gain in Mexico's budget was from the 2.4 billion American dollars sent by illegal Mexican immigrants in the United States. Last year, 2009, the Tax Foundation reported that 40% of legal Americans pay for 60% of the American population who are on some type of government entitlements. Many illegal immigrants do not pay income tax, and usually they will ask their employer to pay them in cash in order not to report their income.
Here is what I recommend that Congress and the president include in a comprehensive federal immigration law:
1. Establish a city, state, and federal database centers where illegal immigrants can begin the process toward a worker's visa, permanent residency or even eventual citizenship. Jim Schultze also fails to research and find that most of the current immigrants are really transnationals who come to America to earn enough money to build a house in their country of origin or to send money enough to support their families back home and to build a retirement savings, etc,
2. Allow a minimum of three years to a maximum of seven years for the payment of a reasonable fine for their violation of U.S. immigration law. Deport only those immigrants who have committed heinous crimes.
3. At the intake database centers, allow immigrants a temporary worker's visa while obtaining their legal names, fingerprints, photographs, DNA, etc. for identification and monitoring while they go through the process of getting a permanent worker's visa or any other legal status.
4. The local, state, and federal databases should share the information gathered on each illegal immigrant in order to expedite the process of legal status for the millions of illegals already in our country; and to cut down on possible fraud and other illegal or criminal activities such as forgery, counterfeiting, smuggling, etc.
5. The federal government should provide at the intake centers enough competent personnel to help an illegal immigrant complete short form documents that do not require private lawyers who will charge exorbitant fees to illegal clients who are already full of fear and angst about just being here illegally.
6. Above all, the short form documents need to be written and designed in such a way as to make the legalization process smooth, clear, quick, and cost effective to the federal, state or local government intake centers as well as to the illegal immigrant.
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Texas_mestizo 12/28/2010 2:30:00 AM
First of all, this legislator (from Texas) Riddles is an idiot if she thinks you can walk across the border into downtown Houston.
Baby terrorists? What morons are involved in our legislature now?
"Illegal immigrant" only refers to the mexican people now?
The terrorists have been shown to be "US citizens and Middle Eastern". So why all of a sudden the interest in "hunting down undocumented workers in America (namely Mexican).
Most of the people on welfare are the lazy ones that don't want to work, just take a "free check" from the system. Then they blame the illegals for taking "their jobs". Get off your asses and seek out the jobs.
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12/28/2010 12:14:00 AM
I appreciate your passion but you should remember that as American citizens we are not allowed to stay and work in other countries. It takes a great deal of waiting etc. to become a citizen of most other countries. Why do you believe the U.S. should be so different?
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12/27/2010 11:57:00 PM
Viva La Difference! Not saying I don't want diversity of thought. Only saying that some immigrants seem more interested in importing their ex country's Holidays,Language,customs, etc. than in appreciating a new set. All American children should be taught several languages, including Spanish, and English. But English is the language of the U.S.
If I moved to Spain or Mexico I would make it my business to learn Spanish .
Goes without saying that Latino citizens have added a great deal to this country. We are not discussing Latino citizens or the natural good character traits of the Spanish/Latino person.
My own family helped several immigrants get their citizenship papers in the 1980's.
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Sharon 12/27/2010 10:35:00 PM
piss on you butch
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Loki Laufeyson 12/27/2010 10:05:00 PM
Errr... nothing, except that anyone looking for work MUST speak it even though this country was founded in English, and even though there's a large population of people who speak Asian languages (who also happened to learn and use English, BTW)... or African dialects, or any one of other foreign languages. Funny how large portions of Central and South Central Texas were settled by people of Czech and German descent, yet today they conduct business in English, not expecting everyone who goes there to speak German and Czech. This country's documents are in English-- our Declaration of Independence, or Constitution, our laws and all of our historic writings are in English. English first!
And-- simply speaking Spanish as a 'learned' language isn't enough. One must be a 'native speaker', and who are going to be the native Spanish speakers? Yup, you got it-- it's not likely to be an Anglo person, or an African-American, or an Asian person.
Since you have NO idea of my race or ethnicity, you cannot call me a racist. However, you CAN cal me someone who takes pride in America's borders, language and culture. Anyone who comes here needs to accept it, and add to it in a positive way-- not destroy it. If "change" and reform are what Mexicans are after, they need to start at home, in Mexico-- not in OUR country.
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12/27/2010 8:26:00 PM
One more thought on illegal immigrants. Our first obligation regarding our social service system is to come to the aide of our poorer black population. The neglect during and after Katrina shows our lack of response to this ongoing problem. We brought most black people
to this country and we are obliged to help them with social services and jobs before any illegal immigrant.
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butch 12/27/2010 8:24:00 PM
where does it say you have to speak english to be an american? NOWHERE. would it make some things easier, duh. but trying to force people nazi style, to "act american" is a cruel moronic joke. our differences are our strengths, not a weakness. this is just more liberal POS thinking( they dont think) that is a roundabout way of endorsing racism. i absolutely agree, shore up our borders, BUT theres no reason to act like a POS about it, and thats what opponents of integration are: POS. enforce the current laws but we dont need pro bigot laws, why? anyone who opposes integration needs to go back where they came from.
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12/27/2010 8:21:00 PM
Put money into Mexico. Put political pressure on Mexican government. Mexicans should have a reason to stay home.
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12/27/2010 8:18:00 PM
First, enforce the laws that are on the books. No entry into u.s. without legal status.
Arrest company presidents that hire illegal immigrants.
Stop services to illegal immigrants accept in life and death cases..
The situation is so out of hand that I doubt we will ever be able to correct it.
The argument that this is a country of immigrants... is stretched beyond reason.
All the early immigrants that came to this country learned the language and wanted to be part of this country.
If we really want to cure our border (illegal immigrant problem) we must police our borders and put large sums of money and pressure on Mexico and its government to improve and give the citizens of Mexico reason to stay home.
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Unfrzncvmnloyr 12/27/2010 8:18:00 PM
if becoming legal wasn't such a waste of time(years), people would immigrate legally. why make it so hard to get a work visa? and illegals do the jobs no one wants, they're not taking jobs from americans. what BS. i lived in tucson awhile back and the only lazy bastards i saw begging in the medians, were WHITES. this while the want ads are 10 pages long. only bigots support non integration. some illegals stimulate our economy more than the lazy a$$ americans already here who wont work.
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Tina 12/27/2010 5:42:00 PM
There is a lot that can be learned from our own history. I thought this discussion was about immigration and not annihilation? You are not on the same page! That is a different lesson even though some former lessons need review. There is nothing wrong with wanting those who come to this country to come legally. When you come across our boders without proper documentation, you have broken the law. When you obtain social security numbers or a government ID after crossing our borders without proper documentation, you have broken the law. Forgery is against the law. If our government had the where-with-all to stand up to protect our laws and American Citizens, then maybe people wouldn't have such strong opinions. The facts remain that all of the illegal immigrants have helped to bring down wages, education and morale in this country. The farmers have cried foul every time immigration becomes an issue. They can't survive if they had to pay a decent wage. My first job was working at Mc Donald's. Now those jobs have gone to illegals. Look at all of the jobs that used to be middle class; construction, masonry and manufacturing to name a few. The teachers in our education systems are having to teach in Spanish to help all of the children who are here illegally. They place their students in mixed groups, usually 3 or 4 Mexican children with an American child. What ever grade the American child makes is what the Mexican children are given so they can meet the state's standards. What is wrong with this picture? Yes, the illegals are bringing down the American system that has taken the middle class so long to build. I am not against people coming to this country. I have friends that are from different countries. But the difference is they did come here legally. They went through Ellis Island! Those are the people that are the most upset with this immigration issue. They did the right thing!
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Jasonzbtzl 12/27/2010 5:20:00 PM
David Leopold offers a starker view: "We saw the Germans expel millions and millions of people. I don't mean to be flippant, but it's the same sort of mentality, moving a population from one place to another."
Dude!!! really?.......really???
Come on that is such a ridiculous moral comparison, you should be required to take a history class before being allowed to speak in public again. By "expelled" , the Germans meant exterminate lives. No one is advocating such things and by even drawing such a comparison you cheapen the severity of the Holocaust and bring to light your own ignorance.
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flagholder 12/27/2010 5:17:00 PM
Tina. You have it right... America is big enough for all of us and I think your quote from Teddy Roosevelt say it best... Something needs to be done and building a bigger fence is not going to fix it.... Great job...
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Tina 12/27/2010 3:38:00 PM
Teddy Roosevelt had it right in 1907; "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American . . . There can be no divided allegiances here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag . . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language . . . and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." What happened to these ideals?
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12/27/2010 3:07:00 PM
Throw THEM and all their anchor babies over the fence in Juarez.
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Biggs 400 12/27/2010 2:31:00 PM
What a load of crap!!! Illegal still means Illegal!!! Deport those that are Illegal and begin a program to start letting them back in...legally!
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Natureman601 12/27/2010 12:37:00 PM
we need to do something about this start shooting those who try to sneak into this country.that will give them something to think about before they try to sneak across the border.other countries can do it
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Zigfried Wigfried 12/27/2010 5:49:00 AM
I am an old man retired and worked my entire career in a job no Mexican could PERFORM. I also speak fluent Spanish I have seen my FEDERAL GOVERNMENT Iin decline for 60 years. The form of your letter is lacking, you cannot spell, you can't even copy my name correctly, and you tell me I'm ignorant? What level of schooling did you complete? I have two degrees, am well-read, and hired Mexican illegals by the THOUSANDS in my time in my business. I was raised on the Mexican border and know what I am talking about, FYI. I can only assume with a handle like you have, Big_[dumb] Conan, that you may be a barbarian. You certainly write like one. Take a hike DUMBO, and I will tell you this, YOUR IGNORANCE IS YOUR BLISS. Every person is entitled to his or her opinion. I do not hate any race nor nationality; I just want illegal aliens to go home, make application, get in line, migrate to my nation the way the law allows. My dear old father taught me the line between smart and stupid is a very thin line and you have all the talent to explain to the entire world which side you are on. You ignorant folks never have any inclination to go back to school and get some smarts, since it takes no imagination whatsoever to remain totally ignorant. You know that I know that somewhere in your weak mind. Merry Xmas to you, nevetheless.
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mexicanamerican 12/27/2010 2:26:00 AM
This is all bull-shit. Just give em' the papers and enforce more jail time to the criminals. They just get slapped on the wrist and let go within 72 hours afterwards they come back and do the same thing over and over. Look at the job histories and police recordes, some are here just making the beer companies richer. Do it right and stop sending our jobs over seas. First you all ask for us to stay in school so that we can get higher paying jobs and when we are up to our ears with student loans you all flush our dreams of the perfect job leave us jobless and bankrupt. You all talk about imagrants taking our jobs when the truth is that you are handing it to them and in thier own country.
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12/27/2010 1:23:00 AM
They knew they were taking a big risk when they came here.Some were lucky enough to stay for years hassle free.But now the jobs are gone.The economy is bad,they better sell off their homes and belongings they don't want and go back to their countries while they can.Deportations,or war,is coming!!
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Big_conan 12/26/2010 11:52:00 PM
zigried your nare really one stupid asshole its people like you the reason they work here because you are to danm lazy and they have to do your job, you are probably on welfare or want a job sitting on your ass
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Zigfried Wigfried 12/26/2010 9:50:00 PM
Last time I checked, a one way ticket to Mexico City cost a lousy 77 dollars! Your GOVERNMENT OFFICE OF ACCOUNTING claims it will cost over $15,000 per illegal 'PARTY CRASHER' to deport these NO GOOD wetbacks. THEIR USUAL, INEPTITUDE PREVAILS. WHOLESALE INEPTITUDE RULES THIS NATION. When the hell are we gonna wise up and deport these bastards?? A $100 bounty to any cop from rent-a-cop up the scale to Chief of the FBI is in order, and a free one way trip to Mexico City...just drive these assholes to the nearest airport and send them home. The American people are sick to death of these DO NOTHING legislators we continue to re-elect! I ONLY REGRET WE CAN'T FIRE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ABSOLUTELY USELESS, UNPATRIOTIC BASTARDS ON THE SAME DAY !!!!! I AM FOR THE WHOLESALE DEPORTATION OF ILLEGAL MEXICANS, AND START RGHT NOW!...WHY IS IT EVERYTHING OUR FEDERAL GOV'T DOES, TURNS TO SOLID, STINKING, PURE SHIT ??? I HEARD OBAMA SAY TWO YEARS AGO IN A NATIONWIDE SPEECH, "WE CANT DEPORT 12 MILLION PEOPLE...." I SAY HIS STATEMENT IS BULLSHIT, AND THE NUMBER IS MORE LIKE 30 MILLION WETBACKS. AND I SAY DEPORT THEM NOW, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM...PUT OUR PEOPLE BACK TO WORK !!
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mgic 12/26/2010 9:12:00 PM
guess your an illegal
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Mike 12/26/2010 9:02:00 PM
same thing in CA. with Mexicans are about 50% (in addition to the illegals) of the state's population, it is impossible to get a job if you don't speak Spanish. moreover, there is a huge discrimination in the job market against non-Spanish speakers
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Dangliberal 12/26/2010 8:34:00 PM
Okay--go for it---yes--DO IT! Mass deportation. By the way I guess, since you cannot spot an illegal alien just by looking I guess we all need to tote our identification papers, birth cetrificate, and verification of citizenship with us at all times. To show during those mass sweeps rounding 'them' up. How do you prove that is your birth certificate? I know--let's have the illegals were a designation---how about a yellow star pinned to their clothes---real citizens can wear a red-white-& blue star. Maybe we (us legal folks) could get a government issued tattoo. That would simply matters wouldn't it?
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Jammieishorni 12/26/2010 7:46:00 PM
what does spanish have to do with anything all yoiu people are racists plain and simple!
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guest 12/26/2010 5:57:00 PM
I wonder where the approval statistics came from? I live in the mid west and I can assure you, there would be major support for mass deportation of illegal immigrants with the exception of slave labor contractors who illegally employ them. Otherwise good bye and good ridance--they can go back south to work the jobs that have relocated as well. I find it ironic that the mexicans come north as the jobs go south--which is where we are headed as a country. As the illegals continue to educate their off spring in this country, our educational standards are deteriorating to the point where we can't compete globally. Its sad and we are setting here letting it happen.
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guest 12/26/2010 5:04:00 PM
Why do you not see poll results from people that actually live the closest to the borders? People in Michigan aren't going to be as affected by illegals as those of us living in New Mexico. Try getting a job down here if you DON'T speak Spanish. We do nothing but coddle illegals here. The times are a changing and it's time for a mass deportation.
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No Bull 12/26/2010 4:57:00 PM
Schultz is a Typical Liberal far left Media Idiot. In the article he attempts to villanize our repersentives for voicing the very concerns that over 65% of the Country hold for Illegal Immigration. There is a distinct difference in the message of his article , It is to misinform and
rally support from anyone from the middle who hasn't already decided .
Illegal Mexicans are entering the US in droves. The number of potential gang members and Anti-American Idividuals bringing bad behavior, such as property destruction and a willingness to commit crimes against anyone within thier reach is growing beyond the scope of police and neighborhood patrols .
These are Idividuals whose belief is to demand respect ,warranted or not. Then to deliver punishment to those who reject or dissaprove of thier character.
Few politicians have been willing to speak up about the problem for fear of losing their seats in Office. Then there is Debbie Riddle and Jan Brewer have tremendous amount of courage and
willingness to fight for Our Country, or else allow Liberals and Cowerdess Politicians to bargain away our Sovereignty and Homeland Security. The buck stops with them.
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SDfin 12/26/2010 4:33:00 PM
56% of Mexicans Say Amnesty Would Increase Illegal Immigration
Hispanics on Immigration - Wednesday, October 14, 2009
A clear majority of people in Mexico, 56 percent, thought giving legal status to illegal immigrants in the United States would make it more likely that people they know would go to the United States illegally. Just 17 percent thought it would make Mexicans less likely to go illegally. The rest were unsure or thought it would make no difference.
Zogby International/Center for Immigration Studies
http://cis.org/ZogbyPoll-EffectsOfAmnesty
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King_richard26 12/26/2010 4:21:00 PM
Dont fine the businesses that hire illegals, take the company awauefrom the owners and put the ex-owner in prison! Problem solved!
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SDfin 12/26/2010 4:04:00 PM
I was worried about Napolitano because she seemed to be part of the illegal immigration problem in AZ but ICE has deported more illegals & gone after more employers hiring them since she took over. Bush's administration made it impossible for the agents to do their job w/o risk of being sued or imprisoned. I'm still on the fence about her tho. Waiting & watching.
Sign up for ICE's newsletter for their activities at www.govdelivery.com. Scroll to the bottom & enter your email address.
Sadly, there's a LOT of reports of child porn/child abusers - more so than illegal entry & smuggling. It seems they'd be more effective w/ both if they split them into two factions.
ICE is getting more counties to sign up to work w/ them in reporting illegals who've committed crimes tho & that's refreshing. Less criminals here, the better - esp w/ the insane idea that, just because you've snuck across our border & pop out a baby, you then have access to taxpayer paid social services which you've never paid a dime into. Top that w/ medical & other services many Americans don't have themselves. Plus free education! Maybe even college !! OMG.
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12/26/2010 3:52:00 PM
need to pay att. to other foreighners to
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12/26/2010 3:51:00 PM
if they would fine 10 thousand a head it would stop them
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12/26/2010 3:50:00 PM
when you talk about illegals you need to start with mexicans and then any and all illegals affricans muslems hindos any and all races not just mexicans
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SDfin 12/26/2010 3:25:00 PM
America's Voice is pro-Mexican & pro-illegal. They pay for polls to support what they want & present it as American's opinion. They have photos of Mexicans - not other races - on their site & even put it in Spanish. You won't see that on NumbersUSA & the polls there tell a more honest view of what Americans really think & want in regards to immigration - legal & illegal.
Polls show the majority of Americans of all races don't want illegals here & want them removed by any means possible. They want the borders sealed & they want employers fined heavily for employing them. Judging by the DREAM Act alone, it's clear you, Sharry & "America's Voice" are spewing propaganda in favor of these lawbreakers.
We don't want them here. They're not suppose to be here. And their anchor babies are not suppose to be given legal status. Enough said - our govt just needs to follow the laws on the books & get them out. You, LULAC, La Raza & everyone else in favor of these people continuing to tromp on our immigration laws needs to leave w/ the illegals
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12/25/2010 10:36:00 PM
It will be hard to give jobs back to American born workers because American owned companies run by American business men keep hiring illegal immigrants in this American country that is suffering from mass illegal immigration. Never mind all that lets blame Obama and anyone who who looks like their form Mexico that will solve our problems.
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Weoij 12/25/2010 7:12:00 PM
Merry Christmas Everybody
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SRichard Murrisongmurrison 12/25/2010 3:50:00 PM
Untill our congress gets reseated and the new people come on board, we will not see any change comming out of Washington.Oboma is not the leader we need in Washington or for that matter anywhere else. We need a big change. We need people in congress that will listen to what the american people want .Untill we stop letting layers run our country by writting laws the oppress the american people we will not get any better.
Lets chop down a few trees , drill a little oil where the caribou travel and lets bring back the steel workers and the refineries and give the jobs back to the american born people.
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12/25/2010 2:30:00 PM
16,000 delivered each year from illegals at Parkland and they are citizens. Way to go TX, now feed them, educate them, and continue to leave the borders open. How many new schools do we need for 16,000 new students per year? The Mexicans really do "remember the Alamo!" gringo...
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Kferguson65 12/25/2010 12:58:00 PM
Debbie Riddle is a Patriot with a capital P. Glad to have her in Texas fighting for Texans all the way. Hat's off to you Debbie
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Walter 12/25/2010 10:29:00 AM
It is a serious crime to hire illegal aliens, but our worthless Homeland Security Agency, led by Lazy Janet Napolitano will not enforce the laws.
INA 274A(a)(1)(A).
INA 274A (a)(2).
INA 274B(a)(4).
INA 274A(a)(1)(B)(i).
46 USC 8704, 8 CFR 274a.1(f), (h).
Jenkins v. INS, 108 F.3d 195, (9th Cir.1997).
8 CFR 274a.1(g).
52 Fed. Reg. 16219 (May 1, 1987).
8 CFR 274a.2(b)(1)(iii).
8 CFR 274a.1(l).
8 CFR 274a.1(l)(1).
Seven Star Inc. v. U.S., 933 F. 2d 791 (9th Cir., 1991).
AFSC v. Thornburgh 961 F.2d 1405 (9th Cir. 1992), Intercommunity Center for Peace and Justice v. INS, 910 F.2d 42 (2nd Cir. 1990).
U.S. v. Merkt 794 F.2d 950 (5th Cir. 1986), cert. denied 480 US 946.
INA 275(d).
INA 274(a)(1)(A)(iii).
U.S. v. Lopez, 521 F.2d 437 (2nd Cir 1975), cert. denied 423 US 995.
U.S. v. Kim, F.3d ---, 1999 WL 803256 (2nd Cir. Oct. 8, 1999).
INA 274(a)(3).
INA 274(a)(1)(A)(iv).
U.S. v. Oloyede, 982 F.2d 133 (4th Cir. 1992).
274(a)(1)(B).
Vega-Murillo v. U.S., 247 F.2d 735 (9th Cir. 1957), cert. denied 357 U.S. 910.
U.S. v. Sanga, 967 F.2d 1332 (9th Cir. 1992).
18 USCS 371.
8 CFR 274a.9(b).
INA 274(c).
U.S. v. Ontoniel Vasquez-Alvarez, 176 F.3d 1294 (10th Cir.1999), cert. denied, SC 99-5643 (Oct. 4, 1999).
U.S. v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873, 884-887 (1975).
63 ALR Fed.180.
INA 274(a), (b)(1).
18 USC 1961-1968.
26 USCS 7206.
INA 274B(d).
The only thing that will stop illegal immigration is a national ID card and enforcement of the above laws. It is time for the DHS to stop violating the law by failing to do their jobs.
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Mtntexas 12/25/2010 6:29:00 AM
Go home , beano. You aren't welconme here and eventually you'll be wearing yourv ass for a sombrero.
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Mtntexas 12/25/2010 6:25:00 AM
just in case noone has noticed, several hundred thousand Lubricano illegal aliens have flocked home to Mexico to show off their 2010 anchor babies and items stolen or bought with drug money. Their have also been thousands who've made the trip tro "re-up" on cocaine and heoin for New Years sales back in the States. Wouldn't it be an ideal time to shut down the border bridges and post snipers along the river / wall? Come on Obama, grow some hair!
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Mtntexas 12/25/2010 6:03:00 AM
Why not pay homosexual couples to round up the illegals and escort them to Mexico City where the gays can be married and settle as illegals. Two problems so0lved at once.
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Mtntexas 12/25/2010 6:01:00 AM
I've posted that solution several times but don't recognize youe\r ID.
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Vgrice 12/25/2010 12:03:00 AM
there is to much money on the table for employers like zachry,fluor daniels,contracts to companys that do state projects like roads and bridges to deport them,what pissess me off is when i go to H E B there buying food with foodstamps ! and drive a new car or truck.
ive had to pick up alum cans to buy food and i;m a us citizen !!!!!!!!!!!!
and they have illeagl ss numbers that someone made for them. I HAVE A SCANNER
AND WHEN A MESKN GETS STOPED IT COMES BACK AS WHITE MALE OR FEMALE.
AND THAT is the D.P.S. they issue drivers licence ther aint no brown on licence,just black and white!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mytocentscom 12/24/2010 10:30:00 PM
As long as they get a free pass from the ppl that employ them and as long as the goverment turns a blind eye on this matter nothing will happen. We need action we need stiff fines on the ppl that employ them.
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Greg 12/24/2010 7:10:00 PM
they are braking the law.if i brake the i go to jail. so they sould go to jail for braking the law,and then be deported.no if's ands or buts.
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Tikokatz 12/24/2010 6:59:00 PM
There is no immigration problem. There is an employer problem. Enforce the laws on the books and if they have no jobs they go home on their own. So long as we allow employers to hire illegals with no penalty we will always have a problem. If a baby is born to an illegal parent in this country, that should not be a right to American citizenship. Having said that if a kid is well into their teens, and America is all they know....then we need to take a long hard look at that.
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RAYMOND-HANDY 12/24/2010 5:00:00 PM
ok i live in tulsa and i just wonder why i shoult have to learn to speak spanish to order a doulble chease burger with no onion most of our fast food resteraunts or staffed by illegals or or mexicans that cant speak english wile my son who was born here and graduated high school cant get a job at mcdonalds because the manegment says they want people with fast food expierance BULL****
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Morones13 12/24/2010 4:58:00 PM
we the ones that give then jobs, and they are the same as ur forefathers on the mayflower, so stop crying
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Felix 12/24/2010 4:54:00 PM
That is an old story the Gentile in this country said send all the Italians, Irish back to their country and the American Indians said go back to your country and your ancestor probably came here in a boat!
Ideassoul
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Felix 12/24/2010 4:50:00 PM
The Immigration problem is more politic than reallity, in the Unted States the population was declaining there were fewer American having children and the United States needed fresh blood.
Most of those Immigrants have children born in this country some of them are going to push boxes, clean floors and other go to the Army and be good soldiers other will go College and be productive to this Nation and at end after 40 or 50 years they will be Americans.
The problem that we face today is that there is a lot of demagogues and some not all of
them are racist and they do not want any body that does not looks like them and the sad part of the story is that every body that live here in the United States their ancestor came from some where else!
Ideassoul
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12/24/2010 3:57:00 PM
SCSharpshooter here. You are correct Richardson is loaded up with Illegal Asians also need to be sent packing as well. However, they are NOT the ones who are over-loading our hospitals and schools (for the most part). I don't live in Richardson so I am not sure what they are dealing with. I DO live in an area infested with illegal mexicans. That combined with my job of dealing with them day and night, I feel I have a unique perspective most citizens don't see and I'm telling all who will listen... THESE PEOPLE COST MUCH MUCH MORE to keep here than whatever benefit you get having your yard mowed or your roof done. As others have said on this site it's not US who are saving money with them here, it is the business owners who reap the rewards. I have lived in my house long enough to have the roof replaced twice. The first time 25 years ago the crew were composed of whites and blacks, not one single mexican. It cost 4 thousand dollars to have done. Recently the crews were all illegals (im sure) and the roof cost nearly 7 thousand dollars, even though the roofing contractor was most likely not paying his crew even a fraction of what the first crew made 25 years ago. I saved NO MONEY! the contractor kept it all I'm sure. So... I pay for these illegals births, schooling, 911 calls, ambulance transports, Dallas County taxes for Parkland for all their medical bills, City services for replacing all the light poles they knock down every time they are drunk etc. but receive no benefit. SO..... SHIP THEM ALL BACK !!!!
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Michael T 12/24/2010 11:48:00 AM
I'm among that 25% for thye roudup and deportation. Grab them at work, in class, in church, off the operating table, out of bars, out from behind bars... let Mexico feed and incarcerate them.
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Go45 12/24/2010 7:09:00 AM
LOL enzo, your as stupid as you look. You must not live by any illegals or mexicans huh? thought so
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12/24/2010 6:38:00 AM
Also you know how many illegals Europeans we have here?..have you been to West Plano? Richardson?..do you know how many illegal Asians we have here? got to Arlington by Pioneer to this place called "Hong Kong" market, you can become a "citizen" there, yet all the illegals are Mexicans...hell even Dj Princess Cut is an illegal Alien she is from Japan
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12/24/2010 6:32:00 AM
I agree with you.
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12/24/2010 6:31:00 AM
Well I work for DCCCD and do you know how much "illegals" cost the taxpayers?, I know how much a white cost us or worst yet a black one. As we all know no black one has ever called 911 because she didnt get her mcnuggets or the white cow who couldnt control her daughter called 911 so much that the dispatcher made a joke and he lost his job(remember?), I can tell you that 80% of the whites who apply for the Rising Star Scholarship can afford college yet they get the money, or also that 50% of the black ones are on well fare receive The Rising Star Scholarship and the Penn Program each semester they get $2000.00 and after 2 semesters they quit, then come back to college wanting financial aid again, if they dont receive it the blacks and white will say the same "illegals take our money", news flash to receive any federal help/grant you must be a LEGAL resident or a Citizen(tell me how illegals take money?), if you want to apply for state help you have to declare taxes ergo you have to have a social security number.
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Mam3746 12/24/2010 5:46:00 AM
Several years ago the country was debating the immigration issue. At the same time there was a national debate on how to dispose of and store the high level nuclear waste coming from power plants and research facilities. I knew a man who suggested we could solve both problems at the same time by digging a very long, very broad, very shallow trench along the northern side of the southern border and put the nuclear waste in it. That way the illegals would glow in the dark and could be picked off by low flying aircraft at night and if they did manage to make it into the interior, they'd be sterile so no more anchor babies.
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Jim 12/24/2010 5:04:00 AM
Well. I don't know who will be funding the fence, cause we sure dont have the money for that or for foot soldiers.
What we need is to just not give them free school. Easy.
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Stephenfstahl 12/24/2010 4:44:00 AM
A photo ID in texas can be obtained where you get your drivers license. This is an official ID issued by the State of Texas. As such, it can be used as identification for voting. A legal requirement for a photo ID is therefore, not unusual, or hard to obtain, if you are a citizen. The only people complaining are the die hard Uber Libs. They think that America ought to just let everyone in all the time, and then tax Real Americans into poverty to pay for all the ILLEGALS freebies. The National Socialists (formerly democrats) are out to simply destroy every aspect of States Rights in America, in order to illegally expand the control of the Beloved Fuhrer Ohbummer's National Socialist government. Ohbummer ought to realize that there is point beyond which Americans will NOT be pushed, and it is fast being approached.
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12/24/2010 3:09:00 AM
I can tell all of you what immigration reform will look like in 2011 are you ready.....it will the same as it did 10 years ago and today. Rich business hire them for cheap and they get richer and they pay off congressmen(Republicans) and they put it off until election day when they start talking tuff like they do every year and once elected they do nothing. The same old garbage anyone who does not clearly see it is either blind or retarded.
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12/24/2010 3:02:00 AM
Why don't you cry to your American Greedy businessman who is the cause of why illegals are here your American neighbor hires them and your American greedy businessman is knowingly breaking the law but does he care? When your rich as we all know you can buy a congressman or a immigration official or even a person to murder your wife so that you can have an affair without a nagging wife biting at your feet. You need to put your racism aside for a minute if you can and think intelligently and ask yourself why is an illegal working and an American on the side of the freeway asking for money while that person puffs on a cigarette.
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Doug Dwrepairs 12/24/2010 2:07:00 AM
last time i checked the word illegal ment illegal no amnesty for any body hear illegaly.you break one Law you will break all Laws.thay said 60 persent are mexicans 60 persent whow.no wonder i get dirty looks at me when MEXICANS look at my bumper it says TURN illegals in to I.C.E.cut off all benifits to all illegals including the MEXICANS.GET thefu%^^&& out.Ifor one am tired of feeling like a second class citizen.MEXICANS are the new MEXICOON moochers.
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12/24/2010 1:34:00 AM
I don't know "Guest". I wonder if they would.... Way to be a d00sh.
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NoAmnesty 12/24/2010 12:09:00 AM
sorry unknownspaceman...thought you were talking to me...sorry again, I will look more closely at who it is intended for .
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NoAmnesty 12/24/2010 12:07:00 AM
I did not mention illegals creating high crime rates...tho they do ...as to a country that destroys it's own building and kills it's own people, are you referring to riots or are you headed towards a conspiracy theory ?
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12/24/2010 12:05:00 AM
You talk about illegals creating high crime rates. What about a country that destroys it's own buildings and kills it's own people and assassinates it's own president just to steal another countries resources.
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NoAmnesty 12/24/2010 12:02:00 AM
it is an outward and common act of disrespect that does not imply they are here to become Americans...
