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10/06/2011 8:40:00 PM
I'm over 65+ and I'm also an 8th generation Austinite. I loved Austin back in the 1940s and 1950s before any of you young people were born. Nowadays Austin has been identified with the "Music Scene". What?
For those of us who have called Austin home since 1836 (yes, thats 1836, my ancestors came here when there was literally *nothing*) you writers and hipsters constantly ignore us and belittle us. We're just the Democrat, liberal voting people who smiled and welcomed your parents and grandparents when they moved here in the 1960s and 1970s.
You young people need to stop identifying every city by what effing music the people around you like. Besides, you are only showing that the people you surround yourself with, are not very good reflections of you OR Austin. Have stupid friends? Well, maybe it just might be because YOU chose stupidity. Don't be generalizing to all us Austinites who have already been here for over 150 years, OR to some kind of "music" scene you judge Austin by. That's so childish.
I caught on about this article in the FIRST paragraph, when he actually thinks he's in Austin asking questions about Austin's "soul" so he interviews, who else? Eddie Wilson and people like that? Excuse me? You readers might be interested to know that none of us native Austinites ever walked into any of his joints. Never have. Never will. I have nothing against him or anything, just know that HE is not Austin. His joints are not Austin.
Why is it always that people from other cities insist on thinking of Austin as the Armadillo Headquarters, either before or after, pre- or post.??
Hey why don't you people really be cool, really be hipters and come to a city looking to put something INTO it, instead of coming here only to get something OUT of it? Huh? I'm your grandmother, answer me.
This article was written by: 1) a young person with no sense of history prior to 1960 or 1980; 2) is from someplace else in Texas (sounds like Dallas he's in love with) and 3) is just jealous and really has a mental thing to try to prove that us Austinites are not as great as he thinks we think we are.
Okay I'm going out on a limb and say something really NOT liberal, not progressive. And it's this: If you are coming into Austin looking for music, listen to your precious music, don't criticize the rest of us, and leave. If you insist on living here, please contribute something to life here BESIDES YOUR MUSIC because in our everyday life of hard-work and raising kidsd and grand-kids, guess what? Your music is not squat!
And stop bragging about Houston/Dallas the next time you write a stupid article, cuz you're giving yourself away (red flags all over the place) that you're jealous.
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Aaron 09/26/2011 5:57:00 PM
Yawn. The whole "Austin used to be cooler, dude" old timers rant has been going on since the mid 80's. Austin is still the only place to live in TX and if the old hippies don't get the new scene... Well... That's what happens when you get old.
One thing we can all agree on-- Dallas is the true armpit of TX. Gotta be the worst town for natural beauty in the U.S. Big hair and trashy glitz. Downtown Dallas sux. No one would ever hang out there on a Saturday afternoon. Downtown Austin is vibrant and full of activity anytime of the day or night.
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Liles 09/04/2011 9:48:00 PM
We have the Octopus Project coming to The Kessler in October, Andrew.
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07/12/2011 2:26:00 PM
But do they know this? They spend considerable amount of time pretending to be Portland, of all places. Kind of makes you wonder.
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07/12/2011 2:25:00 PM
What "quant jock" makes in the high 5 figures? Sounds like Austin is full of third-string quants to me.
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07/12/2011 2:21:00 PM
The largest indy bookstore in the country is not in Austin. It's in the city which started the "Keep ____ Weird" which Austin oddly keeps claiming as its own. Posers...
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Goscott 07/05/2011 8:45:00 PM
I have to agree. I am very outgoing and love people and had similiar experiences in Austin and thought it was just me. In the stores, malls, in general, people will refuse to even acknowledge your presence and smile and say hello. Very strange. Dont get me wrong, I have met some very nice friendly people here every now and then but they are in the minority. Not Austin bashing or anything because in many ways it is a great place but is very cliquish (sp?). Kind of has this Melrose Place or Beverly Hillls 90201 vibe to it. Guess that comes with the territory when you have an influx of affluent, yuppies, UT crowd
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Iatehoffa 07/04/2011 7:15:00 AM
Service industry that is. Those people are nice because they have to put up with all the pricks.
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Iatehoffa 07/04/2011 7:14:00 AM
Wow. I lived in Dallas for a year and found everyone rude and self serving, outside of the device industry; whereas I've never struggled to make a friend in Austin. Maybe you're just a douchebag? At least your typing would suggest so. And also, what Dallas music scene? Traveling acts at the Granada are all there are to see. The Toadies can only reunite so many times.
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Iatehoffa 07/04/2011 7:03:00 AM
Lived in Austin for 12 years, and I say most of this is hogwash with peaks of truth
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Goscott 07/03/2011 7:52:00 PM
This article is very accurate. It's what I've been sensing that has been articulated very well in this piece. When I moved to Austin 5 years ago for a career move, I begin to find that there is this elitest vibe I (and many of my friends) have felt from many people here that communicates "I'm really better/cooler/smarter/etc, than you" but I will be civil and be polite and tolerate you (but you're not really on my level). Austin is a great town in many ways (the festivals, music, activities) but also very cliquish which is disappointing. Coming from the east coast I thought it would have that Texas southern hospitality vibe but not really so. I know that I lot of people love it here but I'm soooo happy to be moving out the area next month.
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06/29/2011 2:11:00 PM
Comparing the traffic in Austin to Dallas is ridiculous. Even on the worst days, I'd take driving across Austin in rush hour to trying to get around north Dallas. And now that construction is about to start for the LBJ project, it's going to get far worse. I spent almost 20 years in Austin before moving back to the metroplex, so I've spent plenty of time on the roads in both places. Having also spent time driving around Los Angeles and around the Beltway (DC & Northern Virginia), hearing people in Dallas talk trash about traffic in Austin really makes me laugh.
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06/28/2011 4:17:00 AM
Two things: can we please stop going to Jeff Liles? Isn't there anyone else you guys can talk to?
And for someone over the age of 50 to not get the Octopus Project is not a shock. Sure, it sounds like it could come from anywhere... because it doesn't sound like the Austin of the 70s. The problem is, old people get stuck in this mode of thinking, and if something new comes along, well, it doesn't sound like the old thing, so what's the worth of it? Octopus Project have been making fresh and exciting music for what, 12 years? When they started, they were the only band that did what they did and now there are tons of bands trying (with less successful results in a lot of cases).
Sure, I love Monahans (and I loved Milton Mapes), but they're not somehow more relevant to Austin because they "sound Austin". Explosions In The Sky sound like they could have come from anywhere and they are still very much an Austin band.
Interview someone who actually knows what's going on, shit...
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06/28/2011 3:52:00 AM
Really? I think nowhere now is like it was in the 70s or 80s. Things were cheaper then and we didn't have computers.
As for the Continental being some sort of paragon of down low Austin culture, you guys really should cut that shit out. It's utter nonsense. The definition of a scenester locale... and yet everyone points to it as if it's the be-all end-all. Just make sure you have the right hairdo and tattoos or the rockabilly types might make you feel unwelcome. Talk about a place that has outlived its usefulness and coasts on reputation.
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Beldar Conehead 06/24/2011 4:41:00 AM
San Antoniooooooooooooooo!!!! Keepin' it lame!
http://www.facebook.com/keepsalame
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Berniecejackson 06/24/2011 2:43:00 AM
How pathetic is a town that has to "advertise" how weird it is. Man, that is really weird. Like, weirder than hippies who are millionaires.
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Sames123 06/22/2011 1:09:00 AM
Threadgill's has really bad food and is known in Austin as a tourist trap.
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Tex Tradd 06/21/2011 9:15:00 AM
I love Austin! Not everything about it...but get away from 6th Street or meat-market bars. Hit the coffeehouses (say Thunderbird, Flipnotics, Cherrywood, or Quackenbush) or one of the pubs, set for a bit, and odds are good that you will meet so many interesting or creative or folksy people. I mean, what the article doesn't tell you is that there are really talented, well read, urbane people flocking to Austin who mix quite well with the base of good-natured, gabby, music-loving, sociable natives. You have a party, and the physicist from Eastern Europe ends up jamming with the old hippie/redneck singer lady, and much wine and telling of tales ensues until way too close to dawn. You see them again six months later at a reception for your mutual friend who's film is coming out....
Dallas has some things going for it: DART rail, museums, the job market, a healthy skepticism about PC approaches to politics and culture, the historically influential blues and country music scenes, the friendly eggheads at the University of Dallas, the leading edge science at UT Southwestern....and much besides. And I would like to know about the Dallas music scene nowadays, hook me up someone with the hot new or old bands!
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06/17/2011 11:30:00 PM
Yep, I live in that area, and it's fantastic. I can walk to get just about anything I need, and if I have to drive, it's just a quick hop to the grocery store or pet shop. Our version of a "homeowners association" is a bunch of neighbors who collect the $25 a year in (voluntary) dues, run the CrimeWatch program, send out a quarterly newsletter, and stage pot-luck picnics and children's parades on holidays. Plus, the Arboretum is right down the road. Austin has nothing on us! (And, yes, I used to live in Austin -- 1978-1989.)
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CWidner 06/17/2011 9:41:00 PM
The Austin Chronicle editor offers a mild rebuttal: http://www.austinchronicle.com/columns/2011-06-17/page-two-dont-move-here/. I think the Mavs are your best argument, but he doesn't know who they are.
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napkins 06/17/2011 6:55:00 PM
easily the dumbest article ive seen in the observer in a long time. pete, keep your nose where it belongs, up calhouns ass.
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Donnaschmidt14 06/17/2011 1:38:00 AM
This sounds like a jealous rant of a jilted ex-lover. I've lived in Austin for 22 years. Has it changed? Yeah, but I, and apparently, a hell of a lot of other people still LOVE Austin. To each his own. Yeah - that's right, it's a terrible place. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - stay where you are - more of Austin for those of us who choose to live and love here.
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Peanut 06/16/2011 11:25:00 PM
I live in Austin and it is a terrible place. You guys are lucky to live in Dallas or Houston. Really.
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Guest 06/16/2011 10:10:00 PM
1. You misquoted London Homesick Blues. The line is: "I wanna go home with the armadillo."
2. Threadgill's is a "pocket of freakiness." Really? Have you been to Threadgill's?
3. "Now the city's skyline declares that Austin is really about flipping condos." - Those high rise condos were built in the last 5 years. They aren't only enough to be "flipped."
4. Austinites are in "denial" about traffic. No sir, Austinites know they could go live in Houston or Dallas and presumably have delightfully short commutes to work. It's not worth it. That's a choice, not denial.
"To them, Austin is better, smarter, friendlier and utterly unlike everywhere else in Texas." True.
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Ianreddy 06/16/2011 7:12:00 PM
That's right, Austin is horrible...please tell your Dallas friends!!!
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headhunter 06/16/2011 6:29:00 PM
Wait... I meant, Dallas... yeah, stay in Dallas... or Houston... or whatever.
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headhunter 06/16/2011 6:27:00 PM
I completely agree! Please please please... whatever you do, just stay in Houston and leave us alone - you won't like it here!
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Penny 06/16/2011 2:36:00 AM
Um. The Armadillo closed more than thirty years ago. This is as tired as tired gets. Lazy piece of journalism.
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Dallas? HAHAHAHAHAHA 06/15/2011 10:37:00 PM
this is a prime example of why I try not to read anything from dallas... it's a bunch of crap... i know people in that neighborhood in oak cliff, it's not far from duncanville, it sucks, dallas sucks, i was in the deep ellum scene in the 80s and that sucked too... i just don't like 'scenes' anyhow, so i don't care if austin's isn't what it was, scene wise... the river, the outdoor life, the university, the young people, the liberal/democratic mindset, the alamo drafthouse, bookpeople - the largest indy-bookstore in the country, the closeness to the hill country & the ocean, the bbq, the food trailers, the soccer scene, the fact that the aggies and the republicans hate us, the fact that you can see music or go to a festival or whatever, those are all things i enjoy... barton springs, zilker, and the river are just incomparable...
the author really cherry-picked his demographic facts as well... austin is minority-white now, and the latino population & asian population has surged, but he chose to focus on east austin's gentrification and continued low black population as proof-of-whiteness.... still plenty of minorities in east austin, and almost all the black people... maplewood is like 1/3 white, 1/3 black, 1/3 hispanic... and the violent crime being so much lower is a comfort to anyone who wants to have kids & live here... traffic would suck if you lived in the 'burbs and commuted through it, but living centrally you don't have to... i don't like sixth street anyhow, and it seems like the article is mainly about how sixth street isn't as cool as it was... who cares? i've been on the river at sunset the last two nights, and had it to myself out on the big water over the dam on pleasant valley... houston boasts the world's most polluted waterway and dallas boasts the trinity, a giant sewer...
figure the author had an agenda when he wrote this piece, and it wasn't to make austin look good...
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StillHappyinAustin 06/15/2011 9:56:00 PM
Extra Extra, read all about it, Dallas Journalist takes a poll at area retirement home and discovers that there are NO COOL PLACES LEFT IN AUSTIN
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high expectations 06/15/2011 8:58:00 PM
i remember the first time i went to austin, i was pretty disappointed. i expected it to be weird, edgy and interesting like all of the hoopla, but found that everything was trying too hard. and amen on the whole foods bit.
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06/15/2011 6:58:00 PM
2 Words
Dought & Heat
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06/15/2011 6:57:00 PM
Right law enforcement is total bullshit
1. Speeding is ticketed while any asshole can text and drive and backup lanes and lanes of traffic
2. DWI is very illegal and very expensive, but you can text and drive and swerve all over backup traffic, almost miss your turn, then cut acroos two lanes of traffic and nobody does shit to you because well thats not so easy to prove in a court of law
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06/15/2011 6:53:00 PM
People that think the Granada is a great theather baffel the hell out of me. Nice maybe, sound is way over rated and as in Dallas in general no one will shut the fuck up and listen to the music. Its way more important to catch up with friends than listen to a musician that traveled here to play. Touring acts know that Dallas crowds are chatty!
The fact that you even mention Nokia and Cowboys stadium says a lot about your POV
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cm 06/15/2011 8:16:00 AM
james you have got to be kiddin..........frisco........pardon me while i throw up........
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Sullenmisty 06/14/2011 8:43:00 PM
Eww to Frisco
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Jesse 06/14/2011 7:28:00 PM
I am new to Austin (3 years), and I feel that Austin has a great soul. There are a lot of new faces in this town, and there will be many more. I don't think any of us came here for: cheap rent, smoke weed at the bars, wild fun days of old Austin. (I like the stories)
The Paradigm is/has shifted. This is the most beautiful city in Texas "A true beauty queen", and I think all Austinites and Texans would be very happy to keep/enhance it so.
I definitely don't think Austin should try and catch up to Dallas, San Antontio, and Houston as far as being a large metropolitan. We should exploit our beauty. I would love to see light rail as a common mode of transport here. Yes it would cost an amazing amount of money, but like the article said $$$ is coming to this town. Venture Capital is coming to this town, Technology is here/coming to this town.
Let's make Austin a "world city". As an american I hate to say it, but Austin would thrive to mimic a few European cities (Barcelona, Frankfurt).
Yes we are the largest city in the USA that does not have a pro sports team. You have 8 professional teams NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB within a 3 hr dive max. Again Austin would be fools to try and catch up and compete. We are getting a Formula 1 track, this has me very very excited for the city. For one weekend, people from around the world will look at our beautiful city. I don't see why Austin can't try a bid for a really nice MLS stadium. MLS is not as big/profitable in this country, but I think it will do well, especially a city that prides itself on being "weird/ different". The level of high education and the pride of hosting a world sport (F1), might catch on with a pro soccer team.
Germany and China are leading the way into the 21st century. Austin has the resources to help lead our country on something that it could be proud of.
The other day I saw elec. car refueling stations at Barton Creek, just another reason to be proud of this city. If you bring your A game, you can afford to live downtown. This is not the best answer for those looking for a laid back cheap rent lifestyle, but its those "A" gamers that will transform this city into something that we all can be proud of. A place with a great Soul..
Jesse
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06/14/2011 3:55:00 PM
Ask any touring band? Sorry, I don't buy that. Do bands want exposure at SXSW? Of course? Would they like to be included in the ACL lineup? Understandably so.
But the DFW-Denton music scene is experiencing a Renaissance and is on the ascent, while Austin has been on the decline for a great while now. Our own festivals (35 Conferette and Homegrown DFW, to name two) are not established in the way that SXSW is, but what each of those have done in less than three years is nothing short of incredible. They show unbelievable promise for future growth. Where does SXSW go from here?
With the reinvigoration of Deep Ellum, and with the rise of excellent venues such at the Granada Theater and the Kessler in Dallas and the Modern in FW, bands from the Metroplex just don't see much reason to re-locate to Austin in order to "make it big" anymore. And with our larger venues (Nokia, Gexa, Cowboys Stadium) and others that "fill in the gap" (mainly, the House of Blues), just about any touring act of any size will find both an appropriate venue and a welcoming audience.
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Wja4507 06/14/2011 12:24:00 PM
Really? "Searching for the Soul of Austin? Really? Let's all jump in the way-back machine and ruminate on the never was. Btw, get this right: it was not "Take me home to the Armadillo..." It was "I wanna go home with the armadillo." Did you even bother to check that?
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06/14/2011 6:01:00 AM
It's Dallaspitality! "KEEP DALLAS PRETENTIOUS!" Wooohooooooo! Austin is like Boston and real Texans don't like yankees!
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06/14/2011 5:58:00 AM
You mean, Dallaspitality! Dallitude is made up by the very Austinites who want to spread bullshit about Dallas so that people there won't know that Austin sucks! Austin cannot be compared to a city as large as Dallas, and with Fort Worth having our back...we're even bigger. Austin is a tired old pothead who can't find anymore ganja worth smoking. Most of the people in Austin have become content and bitter and refuse to be open-minded about Dallas major changes. We have sooooooo much more to offer and more places to go. Our rocknroll venues are better too. I hated to see Austin grow up too. But really....Don't kid yourself. Dallas is way more fun...and we have biking trails all over Dallas. If you don't believe me...go to DORBA.ORG. Don't believe the hype about Dallas! Oh yes..."KEEP DALLAS PRETENTIOUS!"
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06/14/2011 5:48:00 AM
waaaa! Your actually comparing Austin to Dallas suburbs? Haven't you gone downtown Dallas to Deep Ellum or Greenville Ave or Knox/Henderson, or Hollywood Heights, or West End, or Main Street Dallas, or Cedar Springs, or Lemmon Ave, or Westwood Village, or Bishop Arts District, or Dallas Arts District off Oak Lawn and 35, or East Dallas to the Garden Cafe ?????? WTF? No wonder your stuck in Austin...(gag~)...come home, my friend...come home...Austin is washed up. Possum Kingdom has what your looking for and is sooooo much closer to home.
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06/14/2011 5:39:00 AM
It has honey! Dallas is very nice and alot more liberal. I moved to Austin from 2006 - 2008. I moved back up here as FAST as I could. People there, I am sad to say, were mean, prejudiced, quick tempered, and were litter bugs. I saw numerous people deposit sacks full of trash like McD's bags of trash right out their window. Made me hate Austin. Crime was really bad too. Of course, Dallas has crime...but I would take Dallas's hospitality over Austin's snobbishness anyday.
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06/14/2011 5:34:00 AM
I moved there for 2 years...my opinions are fact. I experienced rude people, CRIME was blatant during the night (...I was in a gated apartment complex which was new and nice), and the people were prejudiced. NO HOSPITALITY! No "Thank you" when leaving a restaurant. No "May I help you" when you approach a counter or business prospect. People were angry and wouldn't ever look at you in the eyes. Noone smiled. I will have Dallas anytime, any day. I moved back as fast as I could. I guess one becomes calliced to living in Austin and doesn't realize that everything else became better, while Austin sat idle with contentment. I feel sorry for you.
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06/14/2011 5:28:00 AM
BTW...your comment is the definition of the new and old Austin. It's a cheap city. Barbara Bembry is a Judge in Austin whose lets her staff and officers scamm money for the cities budget. Alot of crookedness goes on there. Old Austin? New Austin? Whatever...the people are hot tempered and think Austin is the Fashiznit. Dallas has a very kewl rock-n-roll scene that blows Austin away. I'm so glad I moved back to Dallas. Austin was a nightmare!!!
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Mark Bishop 06/14/2011 3:16:00 AM
The trouble with Austin is the police chief Art Acevedo. There are cops on every corner, spring loaded and ready to arrest anyone who wants to go out and have a good time. Time was, Austin police were ready to give partiers the benefit of the doubt. Now they are cyberclone vampires who want to grab you and force you to submit to a blood test. No wait-that's happening all over the country! Austin is just a microcosm of a national trend of revenune based law enforcement to make up for the shortfalls that are the results of the no tax the wealthy bankster economy!
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JameswMiller 06/13/2011 9:59:00 PM
I used to live near a $25MM apartment complex in Plano. That is when I knew I had made it to the big time. I moved to Frisco by a golf course. That beats the pants off of Austin.
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Wordem 06/13/2011 4:35:00 PM
Hey John!
It's Stephen R. Johnson from high school. I go by "Wordem" now. I spend my days tronning, battling, and EMC. If you want to say hi, stop by teampanic.org and give me a shout!
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Texasbubba2 06/13/2011 4:05:00 AM
...really? So....do you like Austin, or not? LOL! Austin sucks! Dallas has a much better music scene and is a much better choice. Austin is only kewl when there is the Bike Rally or SXSW. Other than that...it's full of snobbish people with bad 'tudes...and unhappy faces. I'm so glad I moved back to Dallas...where people still smile and will actually look at you in the eyes. (oh ya...what was the, "I'm not gonna look at anyone" attitude in Austin???????)
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Texasbubba2 06/13/2011 3:58:00 AM
I moved there for 2 years and HOW Austin is coinced "Laid Back"...is really beyond me. I moved back to Dallas as fast as I could. People were very hot tempered and snobbishly rude as if I couldn't notice it..."ummm, excuse me, but I am from a real city...I can see right through'em".
Dallas may be on it's way to becoming another LA, but at least we are kewl...and the rock venue here is better too. If Austinites would heed there own messages and be more open-minded...they may discover the "new" Dallas.
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Tex Tradd 06/11/2011 9:27:00 PM
This is an interesting essay that gets it about half right.
I have lived in Austin since '94. There is still cheap rent (say, $400/month) on the deep East Side or further south or far up north. All the good or great roots music you would want is happening just about any night. The jazz world here punches under it's weight considering the thousands of highly technical players that are around, and the creative/art end of the scene is underdeveloped, but with some diligence you can tap into high quality performances. And while Lomax has a point that the bigger rock bands of recent years do not sound distinctively Austin (which is to say rootsy) there are dozens of hard-to-categorize interesting, exuberant, distinctive and memorable bands around (off the top of my head: Dan Doyle, Horse + Donkey, Eastern Sea, Reverse X Rays, Soft Healer).
More generally, most of what people who miss the old Austin complain about (high rent, bland chain stores) materialistic strivers, ex-frat boy mass-culture dullards) can be avoided or ameliorated with some effort. You do have to bring your A game if you want to live downtown, but twenty or thirty years ago almost noone did as there were almost no downtown residences. UT is now hard to get into and competitive, but if you don't need a degree, the campus is pretty open and public-friendly, and there is a night school with cheap a-la-carte courses. If you want to make a weirdo sub-scene with art freaks and fringoids, you can still do that in one neighborhood or other.
The old Austin spirit lives on at the Broken Spoke and Hole in the Wall and Continental, but the proportions of people who live here are different nowadays: more UNIX admins and quant jocks making high five figure salaries, fewer houses full of beautiful losers and psychedelic rangers. There are more guitar wizards and science nerds than ever, more Sanskrit scholars and paranoid ultra-libertarians, but less in the way of central city not-quite grad student, not-quite bohemian, take-a- decade-to-figure-it-out types.
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Rick Carney 06/10/2011 10:28:00 PM
Is anything the way it used to be? I moved to Austin in 86 with a hard core band. I played music nationally while keeping my day job at the Texas chili Parlor (can't get any more old austin than that place) and now I run the Austin School of Rock. Since 86, its DOUBLED in population and rent has tripled. It is as good as it used to be? No. Is it still better than most places? Yes. BTW, to compare the Austin music scene to Dallas and Houston is absurd. Ask any touring band, which of the three cities they would rather play.
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06/10/2011 7:22:00 PM
"people were able to smoke weed with impunity there; powerful men like Bob Bullock liked to ogle the coeds in their halter tops and faded cut-off Levi's. And Wilson also shows you a picture of him goosing a youthful Ann Richards."
Oh, YEA, I really "miss" THAT Austin.
Stop whining about what was and try to enjoy what is. There's plenty of old Austin left and the new Austin is great too if you take the time to stop whining about what you don't like and get out there and enjoy it.
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Kindjustice10 06/10/2011 6:46:00 PM
I hate Austin, Texas: racist bigotry and gang stalking are big there.
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06/10/2011 4:47:00 PM
If isss nah the 'ol Austin.. isss CLRAPP!!!!!
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Indigorcush88 06/10/2011 4:46:00 PM
I remember rents of $249 in Central Austin--we could actually afford to live on less than $25,000 a year, but that was over 20 years ago. We left because housing got too expensive, I could make more in Dallas and actually afford a cool, little home. Do I miss Austin? I miss the old Ausitn--the new Austin, you can keep it.
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Gvshort1 06/10/2011 3:32:00 PM
Austin is a really cool place, if you are into a matriarch type culture like that of California.
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06/10/2011 2:04:00 PM
The prices on the menus of these "open air" cafes comes awfully close to the prices of mainstream bricks and mortar establishments if not the four star eateries. But I still like them--you can park your bicycle right next to your picnic table.
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06/10/2011 1:47:00 PM
Articles in the Dallas Morning News that filter down to me here in Austin make me think that Dallas is becoming more "liberal" than Austin, especially now that the TX Lege has sliced and diced Doggett's district in an attempt to water down Austin's status as a liberal bastion of Texas. Isn't there some law against such eggregious gerrymandering?
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06/10/2011 1:42:00 PM
One bright note, the City of Austin now owns the former Armadillo World Headquarters site. The former bank's parking lot is the best alternative place to park to the high dollar garage when attending events at Palmer Auditorium. The crowding at the garage exit at the end of an event can be avoided using this option just a few steps further than the multi-level garage attached to the auditorium.
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06/10/2011 1:14:00 PM
Oh.... Cheap pot, cold beer, and low rent sound like some major urban attributes to me.
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06/10/2011 1:11:00 AM
My opinion has nothing to do with youth and everything to do with knowledge and perspective.
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06/10/2011 12:59:00 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebiphobia
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06/10/2011 12:38:00 AM
I knew Austin in the '60's, '70's, and '80's. Austin is no longer cool, wierd, neat, or anything other than Dallas or Houston lite. It lost any "soul" it had at least 15 to 20 years ago. If you are under 40 or moved to the Austin area after, say, the early '90's, you have no opinion or perspective about what Austin once was and about what it has become and why it has changed because you did not know the city when it really WAS a wonderful, laid back place. To those of us who have known Austin for many decades, your opinions are a sad joke.
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06/09/2011 8:57:00 PM
Corporate ownership.
Oh, the irony.
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06/09/2011 8:57:00 PM
"Nowadays you can't give a party in your own fuckin' home without suddenly realizin' that your house is full of fuckin' Republicans," Wilson grumbles. "Man! It's a disgusting state of affairs."
I think I'm going to print that on a t-shirt, if the author doesn't mind.
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bobbyv 06/09/2011 8:03:00 PM
This article is not necessarily Dallas-centric. It's the lead article in the Houston Press this week too.
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Gus Mitch 06/09/2011 7:30:00 PM
Next thing you know every moment of every life on the planet is tracked and accounted for and everyone thinks that's normal. Even when you go somewhere your too worried about what's going on somewhere else. And you talk to people and know about people you'll probaly never see again in person, And everyone thinks that's normal. Oxymorons like social media are used and everyone thinks that's normal.
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Gus Mitch 06/09/2011 7:25:00 PM
Yea like going out ?
Where?
Dont know, wherever
What are you going to do?
Nothin just hangout
Ok be careful, be home by 1.
Cool neighborhoods were full of kids hanging out
Todays version
Where you going?
To jimmys to play xbox
Ok text me when you get there
Parent proceeds to text jimmys parents to confirm story
Parent process to texting jimmys parents
To confim story
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Gus Mitch 06/09/2011 7:15:00 PM
This is a universal argument that's only going to get worse and no one talks about.
The death of local culture!!!!
Technology unites us all.......bullshit, technology gives us all the same experience nation/world wide. Used to you had to do cool things know cool people to be cool now you just have to read about it.
We've raised several "organized play" generations now that will never know klingon time, looking for stuff to do, hangin out, cruzin etc
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06/09/2011 7:09:00 PM
pretty sure John Nova Lomax is from Houston, dude. that said, he brings up some good points...I've stopped going down to Austin as often as I did because the traffic blows and it's just not as fun as it used to be...the "early adapters" are aging and having families now while the me-too crowd has never been fun. It's great that their bike culture is healthy and growing, but that doesn't mean shit when you have to get from one side of the city to the other in a pinch.
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06/09/2011 6:38:00 PM
First of all "Qua" is an Italian word for "here".
Second of all, I agree with you that Austin has outgrown its britches. As someone that lived there from '92 to '08, 16 years, I loved it to death, and miss it greatly. I consider the Austin I knew to be a million times better than Dallas (another place I lived - a concrete wasteland of money), and Houston, a giant ghetto full of restaurants. But, since then, the traffic has gone insane, Hyde Park has turned into a dbag millionaire's paradise and 6th street is a travesty now. Basically everything I loved about Austin is gone now. It's a real shame.
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Enrique De La Fuente 06/09/2011 5:22:00 PM
No.
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fred 06/09/2011 5:00:00 PM
I also praise Oak Cliff - but East Dallas should be mentioned as a another laid-back alternative to Austin. Junius Heights with its Garden Cafe, wealth of Craftsman Bungalows, proximity to funky shops/pubs/restaurants and eclectic neighbors who hang out together is a good example. East Dallas also has excellent schools.
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Disappointed 06/09/2011 3:29:00 PM
Couldn't agree with this article more and that breaks my heart. When I went to my first SXSW in 1989, i remember parking in front of El Chine on 6th Street. Two years later we sprung for the $20 wrsitbands and loved wandering around downtown Austin. Now SXSW is more of a beating and a seen to be seen fest. And Downtown is now so full of Dbags and fratboys that I think I am in Uptown or Addison and it makes me want to cry. The W is a prime example. My brother and sister in law live south of Austin in an area that i refer to as the Southlake starter kit. There are pockets of old Austin still down there but they are harder and harder to find.
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06/09/2011 3:07:00 PM
I am not from nor do I live in Dallas, so to accuse me of Dallitude is hilarious. I was born in Austin and went to UT (as did the previous three generations of my family on my father's side alone), so I know whereof I speak regarding Austin's cuisine in years gone by.
I did mention the bike culture, but you missed it. I don't know what you mean by the highway rallying cry reference.
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06/09/2011 2:32:00 PM
That's right. I assume you're endorsing me as an expert on the topic, then?
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Enrique De La Fuente 06/09/2011 2:26:00 PM
"This blog has nothing to do with finding Austin's soul. It has everything to do with Dallitude."
This coming from a guy with "ego" in his name. Ok.
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06/09/2011 2:22:00 PM
I admit that I would like to move to the Austin area. But, I could care less about the music and art scenes. I'm interested in the natural beauty of the area, how bike friendly it is and the friends I have in the area. But, I'm also the type of person who does not try to make change a place I move to. I adapt to it. This is something my parents taught me in the years we lived in Germany and Saudi Arabia. It just isn't polite to demand people change the way they live when you are the one who moved there.
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06/09/2011 1:53:00 PM
I love anti-puff blog pieces presented as news. A lot of the very things you hate on are the same things most of the locals hate on. It would have been nice to find a counterpoint to the ancient get-off-my-lawn curmudgeons who refuse to grow up along with the city.
I find it disingenuous to lament the lack of laidback living and then ask for a megacity pro sports team; that seems contrary to me.
The bit about "sausage wraps and brisket and breakfast tacos, nachos and guacamole" is just downright moronic. As for the hipster food trucks, that's mostly due to being cheaper than running a restaurant in a city that's too expensive to live in, which you commented on in your real estate boom mention.
You address the traffic situation but fail to mention Austin's huge bike culture. I don't know where you ripped that rallying cry about highways but I'm going to call bullshit on that.
This blog has nothing to do with finding Austin's soul. It has everything to do with Dallitude.
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Youareatard 06/09/2011 1:37:00 AM
fat hipsters grow beards get tattoos on their calves wear short pants and take their dogs to the keg bbq get togethers on the weekend. How can you afford those tats bro?
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ILikethembutnotTHATmuch 06/09/2011 12:43:00 AM
2300 food trucks? That seems a bit on the excessive side....
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Enrique De La Fuente 06/09/2011 12:04:00 AM
Cos' Austin has so recieved so little good press. I lived there for several years, and hands it is the most beautiful in Texas as nature goes. It certainly can be fun, but huge swaths of Austin are not much different than say Garland or Plano, and downtown is becoming that which Austin hates Dallas.
With that said...Hook'em!
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M M Green 06/08/2011 11:28:00 PM
On behalf of the Lesser Austin Society, thank you, Mr. Lomax, for including little of the positive side of living in Austin and not quoting anyone who finds it a better-than-OK place to be. And for your choice of interviewees, such as the cranky Eddie Wilson and the ubiquitous (especially in the Observer) Jeff Liles, whose laudable efforts on behalf of The Kessler include the event touted in the ad banner on every page of this article. In the long run, this slant can only work in Austin's favor.
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06/08/2011 10:25:00 PM
Great article, Austin has become less of that "free and easy" bohemia that it was in decades past and has turned into what I like to call the "Hipster D-Bag Capitol" of America.
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Enrique De La Fuente 06/08/2011 9:34:00 PM
It's about time this article was written.