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You may say I'm a dreamer 09/08/2011 6:35:00 AM
Um, who's the ones being greedy?!?! I'll wager no suit would've been filed against Glasheen if he had been reasonable in his compensation demands.
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You may say I'm a dreamer 09/08/2011 6:31:00 AM
No one is saying that lawyers should'n't be paid. But these lawyers hoodwinked the innocent, who, after decades sitting in prison, did not have the wherewithal to understand the contracts they signed with the lawyer and probably trusted the Innocence Project lawyer who referred them.to Glasheen. Really, no amount of money can give them back the years they lost and the trauma of what they've experienced.
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You may say I'm a dreamer 09/08/2011 6:21:00 AM
You're sounding angry, Bill. Where's your sense of humor?
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You may say I'm a dreamer 09/08/2011 6:17:00 AM
These lawyers misrepresented themselves. Blackburn was allegedly working as a representative of the Innocence Project, but he used that organizations resources to cherry pick the best cases for his buddy, Glasheen, who gave him the agreed upon kickback. They're in this mess because they've overreached. No, working for free is not something lawyers do, but naked greed and exploitative practices like this should be reined in.
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Exonr8 07/30/2011 1:07:00 AM
That's absurd. One case is obviously litigation, the other some would be slick lobbying in Austin...or whatever. Now, you figure out which case a Texas Attorney should be involved in. Haha. Thank you verry much.
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Nokilljoe 07/30/2011 12:57:00 AM
Lawyer Randy Turner stated he was only charging the three clients his going rate of $300/hr. His going rate is actually $250/hr. He stated this in court two weeks ago to a judge. He's even ripping off his own clients. Ever since tort reform his business has been way down. That's why he's been doing some pro-bono work. Odd he's not helping out these three clients for free. They were innocent. One pro-bono client was Steven Woods the fake lraqi war veteran whose dog bit two elderly people. Turner lost the case but helped Woods bilk people out of donations. He's also representing a woman who committed animal cruelty pro-bono. She owns property and her husband is an engineer. Turner doesn't charge her but he does charge three innocent men with no money? Turner wants part of the big compensation just like the other lawyers. Greedy lawyers all of them.
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Azlemolly 07/27/2011 2:10:00 AM
how many people do you know who work for free?
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mark 07/14/2011 7:36:00 PM
you exposing that you use multiple accounts?
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glittermama 07/13/2011 4:16:00 PM
So lawyers are scumbags ! What else is new?
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Cp9193 07/13/2011 4:14:00 PM
So lawyers are scumbags! What else is new?
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Maria 07/13/2011 2:39:00 PM
Buy and read Tested by Dorothy and Peyton Budd on the subject of wrongly convicted men in Texas.
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07/13/2011 6:08:00 AM
"I take it from the comments I see that the deadbeats here on this posting believe that attorneys are supposed to work for free. Do you work for free? Does your doctor? Your plumber? Your mechanic?" No, of course not. But then people expect teachers and government workers to labor for next to nothing, so why not attorneys? Or doctors?
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07/13/2011 6:05:00 AM
It's not a question of the DNA not matching because the sample has degraded with time. Absence of a match is not proof that someone else did it. Texas has many people still in prison for whom the DNA proves they weren't the rapist, but it can't exclude them from being present at the crime scene, so they continue to serve time. The samples in this case were good enough to 1) exclude Phillips and 2) to implicate someone else. You should not be worried that we might erroneously freeing a guilty man, you should be concerned about the number of innocent people who have been convicted and later proven to be innocent. From the founding of this country we long held the view that it was preferable to free a hundred guilty men to wrongly convicting a single innocent man, but now we seem not to care that we regularly convict the innocent and those who do are dismissed as "liberals".
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Guest 07/13/2011 5:35:00 AM
You bring up perfectly valid points, leaving a wonderfully balanced statement that views all sides of the argument. I commend you! If only more of the world took this into consideration, maybe most of our problems would be solved or prevented...
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Vleone001 07/13/2011 1:53:00 AM
Those exonerated deserve compensation, however, it is not the taxpayer that should be burdened. We should look at why they were convicted and go after those that either did not do their job in representing their client, or the witness's that gave bad testimony, or the labs that did a poor job of forensics. Doctors have malpractice insurance and maybe Attornies should have the same.
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Forjarvis 07/13/2011 1:08:00 AM
Actually, they were found guilty, science was not as developed then, they could have had the greatest lawyer in the world, but without the technology of today they would still be in prision. The jury found them guilty, by the way, it sounds like the jury didn't do their job. But it is hard to stand up for what's right--my experience is that juries tend to, on these types of cases, treat "beyond a reasonable doubt" as well do I want them on the streets, what will people say, and so forth. Many prosecutors I have been around even go up to jurors after a case is over and say, "you let a criminal go free.".
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07/12/2011 10:57:00 PM
These 20 year old cases worry me. Authorities at that time did not know howto properly store DNA samples. They degrade over time, now the DNA does not match and folks get released from prison. Really would like to know more facts in these cases...
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ian 07/12/2011 10:42:00 PM
and they were not guilty... a lawyer didn't do their job right the first time, so they should reap the benefits of someone sitting in jail... you must be an attorney to think like that
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bill 07/12/2011 9:11:00 PM
They're not the same attorneys that handled his criminal case. One attorney has worked for one prisoner for three years, the guy has been in prison 26 years. That's 23 years difference, you may need to take off your shoes so you can use both fingers AND toes to count.
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John 07/12/2011 9:09:00 PM
The lawyer did a good thing by getting this man released, and you want the attorney to serve time in prison because he wants to be paid? Do you like getting paid or did your mommy buy the computer you're using?
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John Q Public 07/12/2011 9:06:00 PM
These ex-prisoners were arrested, tried, found guilty, and sent to prison. Their appeals were exhausted. These attorneys took their appeals at no charge only a contingency fee and the prisoners signed a contract. It was only through the dedicated efforts of the attorneys involved that resulted in freedom for these wrongfully convicted men. And now????
These prisoners would still be rotting in jail if it wasn't for the efforts of these attorneys. It's no small matter to file an appeal and work to have someone released. The attorneys have expenses, they have staff, they have families to feed, mortgages to pay, etc. Do they deserve to get paid this much? I dunno, how much is it worth to YOU if your butt was sitting in prison
for 26 years?
I take it from the comments I see that the deadbeats here on this posting believe that attorneys are supposed to work for free. Do you work for free? Does your doctor? Your plumber? Your mechanic?
The anti-lawyer comments are typical of those who watch too much Boston Legal, and think that court drama takes about an hour to get a multi-million dollar verdict. To get to trial can take years, to get an appeal heard and a client released can take decades. Would you work for decades for no pay? I didn't think so.
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07/12/2011 7:29:00 PM
Man what a bunch of "Pigs." It's a darn same that "Justice" has to come at a price, literally.
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mark 07/12/2011 5:16:00 PM
Wait, if someone at IPOT is referring cases in exchange for kickbacks, that puts things in a different light, doesn't it? Is the work less about justice and more about profit? Shouldn't this affect the IPOT's 501(c)(3) status?
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07/11/2011 4:17:00 AM
Steven Phillips served 24 years in prison. I think it fair that the lawyer gets 25% of the money AFTER he serves 6 years (25% of 24 years) in prison. Sentence to commence immediately.
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Dr Heffernan 07/11/2011 12:18:00 AM
If you had a contract with the lawyer to pay your lawyer from money recieved in restitution, then you pay him/her. If the lawyer didn't put that in your contract 27 years ago, well, too bad for him/her. These guys shouldn't have to give these snakes a dime if it's not in writing.
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Stalin 07/10/2011 11:28:00 PM
*owe
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Stalin 07/10/2011 11:27:00 PM
maybe you should go and serve 25 years in a prison for something you didnt do, then we'll see if you feel you anybody anything when you get out...
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Lghtning38 07/10/2011 10:33:00 PM
they should cap lawyers fees at 10%, less the filing fees
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Lghtning38 07/10/2011 10:30:00 PM
actually most politicians are lawyers, so that would make sense
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07/10/2011 8:29:00 PM
Let us NEVER forget that absolute power corrupts absolutely and it will be interesting to see how much money these lawyers will be able to take!
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07/10/2011 7:11:00 PM
sounds like a classic case of I want to get paid for my failure now that you have succeeded without me.
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Coco 07/10/2011 6:12:00 PM
Well if this is what it takes, Hell I want my money too......I am a tax payer and I feel that my tax money covered his one bedroom, three square meals, DR visits (I cannot afford my own healthcare expenses)---so, why the lawyer is seeking his portion....cut a slice of that weath back to the taxpayers too! We all want our money!
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Jim 07/10/2011 5:31:00 PM
No wonder America is going down the tubes these lawyers are just like our politicians all scum! Take Take and Take some more!
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07/10/2011 2:41:00 PM
That is, until YOU need one to save your life, skin, etc.!
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07/10/2011 12:01:00 PM
Really doesn't matter how it "looks" to you, Esclavodave, DNA is nearly perfect proof, not a "technicality" at all, that these people were WRONGLY convicted by the great state of Texas. How much is YOUR LIFE worth - say 15 to 20 years. If YOU were innocent and wrongly onvicted, would YOU feel differently? Does Texas really care about guilt or innocence, or do they just want to convict and be rid of the case? Mark of another one for the DA.
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Guest 07/10/2011 6:51:00 AM
The "technicality" being that someone else actually committed the crimes.
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Guest 07/10/2011 6:51:00 AM
According to information provided by Glasheen's public relations representative, he and the lawyers at his firm worked more than 4,500 hours, incurred $500,000 in out-of-pocket expenses on these contingent fee cases
That must be a hell of a one-page form that the state has to claim compensation if it takes 4,500 man hours from trained attorneys and $500,000 in out-of-pocket expenses to fill out.
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GILL73115 07/10/2011 6:25:00 AM
BOTTOM FEEDING LAWYERS FIND A NEW WAY TO "GET THE MONEY" I VOTE TO LOAD THEM ALL ONA BUS AND PUSH IT OVER A CLIFF. (ALL SEATS FILLED AND OTHERS IN THE ISLES.
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Cheshyre 07/10/2011 6:05:00 AM
You know you're in Texas when they consider innocence a "technicality" (or rather, a "technically" [sic]). It's people with this sort of attitude who truly belong in jail. People without any regard for the truth, who will sling anyone in jail regardless of the facts, and then want to take no responsibility afterwards. What a monster.
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Bigoneinbed 07/10/2011 3:19:00 AM
If the Lawyer wanted more Money then Maybe he should Hva edone a better Job ,,on keeping him from going to Jail Most Laywers are like CATFISH,,,,,,Both Bottom Feeders...maybe not all....lol...
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Barry 07/09/2011 7:23:00 PM
Screw the attorney, keep the money and enjoy the rest of your life
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Esclavodave 07/09/2011 4:49:00 PM
Looks guilty to me. Here our governor who has crashed Texas cutting millions from education still pays criminals because he was let loose on a technically. Perry screwed up one state now he wants to take out the remaining 49. WTF.
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Exonr8 07/09/2011 3:09:00 PM
Actually, it was a couple of fine New York attorneys from the Innocence Project of NY who worked to free Phillips. Further, Glashen was hired to file a 1983 civil suit in his case after he was exonerated, something Glashen did not do. In fact, Glashen never so much as filed a motion in this case.
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Jipbass 07/09/2011 2:50:00 PM
None of these lawyers worked on the cases that freed these men from prison.
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Texastwin827 07/09/2011 12:46:00 PM
Try reading (and comprehending) before making a stupid comment. This man was convicted based on an victim idenifying him....so do you expect the DA's to ignore the victim? If so, no criminal would ever be convicted.
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Cliffy 07/09/2011 12:06:00 PM
MMMMM, so am I to understand this correctly, that lawyers work to free these wrongly convicted person's, then the newly freed person has no obligation to the person that worked to free them?
Now that's not saying lawyers are a sneaky group, but surely there has to be some obligation, read that $$$$, to those lawyers willing to get the wrongly convicted free!
I do believe the article falls somewhat short in describing ALL the intricate workings of whom was working for whom and who got paid initially.
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David Whitten 07/09/2011 12:11:00 AM
Oink, oink, oink. Is there ever really enough for some people? Oink, oink, oink.
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Sirpat35 07/08/2011 11:36:00 PM
EXCUSE ME hellogain, BUT THESE MEN PLAYED NO PART IN HELPING "US" GET OUT OF PRISON. AT LEAST NOT THIS EXONAREE!!!
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07/08/2011 10:55:00 PM
Just like that "Texas tough" attitude to "throw em' in jail" to make a point, then pay out millions for false imprisonment. Can you say shortsighted?
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07/08/2011 8:40:00 PM
That should blow more holes in the state budget. Way to go Texas district attorneys, think you could possibly do things right from the start based on what we pay you and what it costs to convict an innocent person. An once of prevention .. Its not like your being paid by the conviction, oops that is right you get raises and promotions based on convictions I forgot. Now that is justice ...
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Mom 07/08/2011 7:49:00 PM
Better yet, the prosecuting attorneys who convicted the innocent person should spend 15 - 20 years in prison.
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Mom 07/08/2011 7:48:00 PM
Attorneys are a necessary part of our legal system. Like every other professional they deserve to be paid for their work. As far as innocent victims being compensated for decades of imprisonment. I hardly think $4 million is fair compensation.
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07/08/2011 12:12:00 PM
Maybe Texas should actually investigate crimes and try to jail the guilty instead of anybody who is available?
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07/08/2011 6:48:00 AM
Attorneys are the cancer of the American Dream. They are parasites on our society and way of life (or as it used to be)
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07/07/2011 4:47:00 PM
Maybe the attorneys and those who think they are entitled should spend 15-20 years in Prison for no reason and then maybe they will come out with a different perspective...yes the attorney's were intricate in the help they gave these innocent men get released and compensated, but let these men have the money they earned with years of there life in a world that you and I have no idea what it is like to live in...the money the attorney collected is outrageous!!!
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07/07/2011 11:03:00 AM
I lobbied for the '09 compensation statute on behalf of the Innocence Project of Texas and want to point out several things wrong with this story. A) Anchia absolutely knew about the civil suits and that they would be settled with compensation money. In fact, it was part of the strategy to pass the bill in 2009 to get letters from entities being sued saying they supported the bill because it would make their civil suits go away. To claim now that he didn't know is disingenuous. B) The Legislature this year expressly did NOT ban the kind of civil suits Glasheen was paid for. That's a false and misleading statement that should and could have been easily fact checked. Glasheen was hired to file Sec. 1983 civil rights suits, not for state compensation (and he decreased his fee from 40-25% when the bill passed). In fact, C) everyone who hired Glasheen did so because they expressly chose to decline statutory compensation (at the lower level) and sue instead. They can still make that choice under the law. And if they do, they still have to pay their lawyers if they win. Nothing's changed on that score.
In the end, everyone who hired Glasheen was paid MORE than they would have been if they'd chosen not to hire a lawyer and taken statutory compensation instead, even after attorneys fees. Further, I heard none of these complaints from Phillips et. al. when Glasheen gave them large advances while their cases were pending. Anchia has said he thinks lawyers should only do this work pro bono, but Sec. 1983 civil litigation is a big deal and not something private practice lawyers generally do for free, just like the lawyers suing on behalf of Mr. Phillips now will expect to be paid.
Finally, and most ironically, if those suits had never been filed, the legislation would never have passed because the lawsuits provided leverage to get municipalities being sued on board with the legislation. You can't have it both ways. It's easy to forget the '09 legislation was never a fait accompli. Indeed, at the beginning of session when the state showed a huge red hole in the budget, the bill's passage seemed unlikely. If it hadn't passed, those suits would have been litigated to the end (the whole "contingency" thing). See more background here: http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2009/12/exonerees-lawyers-fees-and-innocence.html.
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07/07/2011 2:01:00 AM
Come on now, these guys got you out of prison were the only ones that helped you. Don't be greedy. You will have bad luck once you receive that money if you do not share with the ones that believed in you when no one else did or would.