Do Mexicans Hate Puerto Ricans?

And do matanzas only happen in New Mexico?

Dear Mexican: I live in upstate New York (that's any part of the state north of the city, for you West Coasters), and while we have a relatively small Mexican population, we have a large number of Puerto Ricans, especially in the community where I live. Here's my question: A number of times I've overheard my PR friends accuse each other of being "lazy Mexicans" as a good-humored insult. I'm wondering if on the West Coast, where I expect that there are more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans, if you ever accuse each other of being "lazy Puerto Ricans?" I've asked my PR friends this question, but they think it's crazy. I'm of Irish heritage, and I was surprised one day to find out that all of the Polish jokes I grew up with were Irish jokes in England. I'm curious if maybe it's the same thing here. Basically, I see my friends as being Latino, and they don't have a problem with that until someone calls them a Mexican. Kind of like someone saying I'm Irish, but accusing me of being Protestant when I'm Catholic.

—Son of Erin

Dear Mick: Ah, another opportunity to trot out my all-time favorite joke: Why aren't there any Puerto Ricans on Star Trek? Because they don't work in the future, either. Silly chiste, but that's the point. As brilliantly put forth by Christie Davies in his examination of ethnic humor, The Mirth of Nations, mere jokes by one ethnic group against another signifies latent hostility toward the joked-upon, but nothing serious. Ethnic insults, on the other hand, suggest a deeper-rooted hatred between the groups. In other words, Mexicans don't really care about Puerto Ricans, because we always kick their ass in boxing and aren't as colonized as boricuas, so any tweaking of them is relegated to jokes — and even then, I can't think of a single Puerto Rican joke with roots in Mexico. But Puerto Ricans throwing around slurs like "lazy Mexicans" show they're as American as they come, because while Mexican jokes do exist in the American humor realm, bona fide slurs — wetback, chili belly, taco bender, wab and many, many more — are as numerous as beans in a burrito. "The number and nature of nicknames, and particularly derogatory nicknames for particular ethnic groups in America," wrote Davies, "is a reflection of the strengths of the ethnic conflicts in which they have been involved and the kinds of ill-feeling that such conflicts generate." Diós bless America!

My fiancé and I were debating this the other night: Where did the idea of matanzas come from? How did they start? I'm of the belief that they were to provide food for an entire village during long, hard winters and have become a reason to party outside in the middle of winter. He says he doesn't think so. He said they are probably a local thing (we're from New Mexico) and other self-respecting Mexicans would never have fiestas like this. Can you clarify?

—Muy Confundida

Dear Very Confused Chica: "Self-respect" and "Mexicans" in regards to fiestas go together like "logic" and "Republicans" on America's immigration issues. Your fiancé is largely right: Matanzas, for the rest of us non-New Mexis, usually involve the slaughtering of a pig just before winter to provide the pueblo with hundreds of pounds of lard, meat, blood and all the other bounty our tasty porcine friends provide us. Some scholars also posit that matanzas were Hispanic rituals dating back centuries, with the pig the center of the feast: Since the Moorish rulers of the Hispanos' ancestors and the Jews they always despised couldn't eat pig, the feast was a great way for Spaniards and their descendants to smoke any marranos or moriscos out of the pueblo's ranks and into the bonfire. Maybe, but the Mexican always felt matanzas ("killings" en inglés) were always more like the Pacific Northwest tradition of potlaches, where men would compete with each other to see who could throw the biggest feast and treat others the best. And that, my dear amiga, ain't tied to any other tradition but the eternal quien-es-más-macho ritual of hombres.

Ask the Mexican at themexican@askamexican.net, be his fan on Facebook, follow him on Twitter or ask him a video question at youtube.com/askamexicano!

 
My Voice Nation Help
51 comments
dhernandez14
dhernandez14

The hate filled comments are from the ignorant few who know only how to be part of the problem and not how to be part of the solution. Yes there are a few stupid Puerto Ricans and Mexicans who hate each other. But historically and as nations, these two peoples have been supportive of each other. There are many Puerto Ricans who march and fight for immigration reform and to protect the rights of undocumented workers. Who ever said Mexicans are lazy is just plain stupid or evil. For the most part they are one of the most industrious people on the planet. Puerto Ricans on the other hand are right to take advantage of all the benifits available to any other US citizen. They were invaded by the US not the other way around. They fought in every US war since World War 1. They have paid for those benifits in blood. If ever Hispanics do unite then and only then will they have any real power in these United States of America.  

mrspacecowboy191
mrspacecowboy191

IN THE UNITED STATES MOST WHITE AMERICANS CALL ALL HISPANICS MEXICANS IF THEY LOOK THE PART THEY ARE MEXICAN ACCORDING TO MOST PEOPLE HERE IN THE STATES SO IF U CALL A PR MEXICAN THEY WILL GET OFFENDED BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN IDENTITY AND THEY WANT TO BE RECOGNIZE IT HAPPENS WITH ALMOST ALL SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE AND MEXICANS GET MAD BECAUSE THEY GET BLAME FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN SPANISH COMMUNITY EVEN WITH THE WHOLE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION THING ITS NOT JUST MEXICANS COMING OVER ITS SALVADORIANS,GUATEMALA PEOPLE AND MANY OTHERS OF LATIN AMERICA BUT MEXICANS GET ALL THE BLAME AS IF THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES 

edfranco1
edfranco1

Why do so many PR look black and the ones that don't look just like any other Latino from Columbia,Ecuador, Mexico, etc. etc. ? (I really don't see much of a difference).There are many Ugly and very pretty in all Latin America. (FYI all Latin country's are of Indian ancestral and yes including Argentina, Cuba, PR, etc. etc.)

Denise
Denise

I am neither Mexican or Puerto Rican, but, have had the opportunity to have both as neighbors. Personally, I find it offensive for people to associate Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. This is especially true in the area of characteristics and work habits. It is mostly an insult to Mexicans. Trust me there is no comparison to the two groups. Mexicans are upwardly mobile and Puerto Ricans for the most part are stagnant. Just for the record Mexicans make much better neighbors as well. They are peaceful and the men don't stalk you. If I have offended anyone, just know I am speaking the truth! I saw someone say that Mexicans are now mating with Puerto Ricans, please preserve your race at all costs and don't mix with those people. Yea every race has a group of degenerates, but those PRs are disgusting!

Pretty Mejicana
Pretty Mejicana

This Is Such Bullshit! I'm a Mexican American Girl Who Was Born In The West Coast And Recently Moved To NYC About 6 Yrs Ago. It was tough getting used to but I'm finally getting used to it. Going to school here in Brooklyn, New York I found a great beyond the most amazing friend I could ever meet & Guess What She Is??!! Puerto Rican!! And now we are super close like a sister to me! So All Those Stereotypes Need To Fucking Stop Because They Are Not True! Not Every Puerto Rican Is On Welfare Like WTF? Wow Using Throwback Stereotypes From The 80s Like Come on It's 2012! Welfare Is For White People Nowwwwwwwwww!! Plus I Love Being Mexican! And Mexicans Have Done a lot For You WHITE PEOPLE But So Has Puerto Ricans. A lot Of Puerto Ricans Now Hold Good Jobs from the news that we watch to the Entertainment business! Not All Of My Mexicans Work As Cleaners! One of the richest men in the world is Mexican you fucking hating ass honkeys. SO FUCK WHITE PEOPLE TRYING TO PUT US AGAINST EACHOTHER! And I'm Not The Only Mexican Who Gets Along w. Puerto Ricans Believe It Or Not a lot Do! Puerto Ricans And Mexicans are very different but yet Have More In Common Then Say a Colombian For Example Because Puerto Ricans And Mexicans LOVEEEE Boxing And Competeing And We Compete Well. Without Mexicans And Puerto Ricans Shit Would Be pretty Lame Especially Boxing! Plus Sorry To Say This For The Haters But Here On The East Coast a lot Of Puerto Rican Half Mexican Babies Are Being Made Quite Frequently. So Get Over It It's the BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!! <3Plus calling Puerto Ricans lazy derives from the Island of Puerto Rico being a welfare Island NOT because they are literally lazy! Aswell as not all of us Mexicans work for cheap money and you think you can get over on us a lot of Mexicans own houses and have good jobs you stupid assholes!ALSO SHOULDN'T YOU WHITE MEN WORRY ABOUT YOUR LIL WHITE WOMEN LEAVING YOU FOR BLACK AND BROWN MEN. HAHA I HEARD SOMEWHERE THAT SOON WHITE RACE WILL DECREASE BECAUSE OF ALL THE MIXING NO WONDER THE MAJORITY OF WHITE MEN ARE GAY SMH.

Brownpridehomes1
Brownpridehomes1

It's funny because most Mexicans aren't lazy & I know a lot of Puerto ricans that are lazy ass hell not saying that all of them are but most

Antonio E
Antonio E

just joking they all are hated by repubs

elizeo o
elizeo o

Really , editor why are you so lame as to let these white trash and black trash take pot shots at us , are one of them? you don't inform us or give us something to be proud of . Every time i read this column i get pissed , reading about the whiny whites and blacks that we take their jobs and rip off welfare ect , while that's the reason they read this column bc they are not WORKING.and by the way you white and black pieces of crap , if you hate us so much WHY DO YOU READ THIS COLUMN !!!!

the great divide
the great divide

my mother would call me a hill billy puerto rican if i messed up as a child. it's funny because she cant stand the "new" mexicans either "we're, chicano" as well as spanish. (mexican and spanish are different) she tells me we pay our taxes and aren't so sloppy and speak both english and spanish. the biggest problem are the words like latin or hispanic that rope all of us together. so people from mexico, brazil, spain, italy, & cuba are all the same?

I can't say that there is anything I don't like about a race because all have good and bad but I can say as a marine from a military family I don't think you can be loyal to more than one country. which is different than ethnic pride. be proud of your race but leave all the other stuff aside that means canadians and rebels too. if your an american and you talk secede or can't pledge alligence to the flag your guilty of treason.

I guess in the end everyone just wants to be recognized for what they are. I guess that's why i was taught I'm mexican and spanish instead of just latin or hispanic

Fer
Fer

I am Mexican. I don't have a problem with Puerto Ricans, but most Puerto Ricans I know or have seen have serious attitude problems. They think Zeus gave birth to them or something.First generation Mexicans are usually pretty non-intimidating - although that changes with Mexican Americans, they are pretty much the same as Puerto Ricans. I think the guy that wrote the story is right - all of that is learned by the American setting. These groups when confronting the established class in the US feel intimidated, so they begin creating these huge egos for themselves to make up for insecurities in a new nation where they don't dominate.

Rshrum58
Rshrum58

Funny because here in Oklahoma they say that the Hispanic population are only taking the jobs that lazy Americans don't want. And the Hispanic family that lives just down the road from me is complaining that the Hispanic people from California are coming to Oklahoma and undercutting him on his brick jobs. Then all those lazy Americans complain that the illegal Mexicans are coming here and taking all their jobs. It is a sad world that we live in, because they sent all the work to Mexico because they would work cheaper that the lazy Americans that didn't want to work in the first place. And me well I just hate myself, why you say, because I am a White, native American, Black man with a big problem, I don't know which part of me to hate. God Bless the wonderful country.

Mari
Mari

I am Mexican-American and married to a NYrican. I love my fiance's family they are very nice people, but sometimes they do make rude comments like " I'm not Mexican" as if being a Mexican is a bad thing. I LOVE my Mexican roots. Who can live without those tasty enchiladas, flautas, and chilaquiles. No matter what race or background you come from people are always going to have something negative to say!! I still love my crazy ass Boricuas, hey we got the best of both worlds!! One Love!!!!!!

Jorge
Jorge

I am mexican My wife is Puerto Rican I love my wife and her Family very nice people.

really
really

only difference btwn a Rican and a Mexican is that Rican's are "legal"... they still refuse to learn/speak English when they come to the main land and don't want to pay taxes either, but want the wellfare. and when it comes to the Olympics then they become their "own country"...

Welfare Rican
Welfare Rican

Puerto Ricans have nothing to be proud about. I love how they have that silly parade in NYC every year where innocent girls get raped by the savages! Also, look at the types people that Ricans view as their role models. Daddy Yankee, J-Lo, Fat Joe, Big Pun, and the list goes on! All of the aforementioned "celebrities" lived in section 8 and/or on welfare at some point in their lifetime.

Diogneseys
Diogneseys

I am a greingo, graduate of Albuquerque public schools, as was my mom. the most anti-immigration person I have ever known was a policeman, a world war2 Silver Star winner, and a native hispanic citizen of New Mexico. I never heared him say a bad word about Puerto Ricacans, or other native hispanic people of our country, but I believe he resented the fact that Citizens of Mexico could immigrate, with out renouncing the citizenship of thier native land, when they became one here. This was always a passionate issue when he thought on the death of his eldest son, who died after volunteering for the Marines, during the Viet Nam conflict.

Kimberly Riddle Smith
Kimberly Riddle Smith

Dear Deigo I know of white folks that are in those handout lines that are to lazy to work or will not work for minimum wage so I will defend the Mexicans, the Puerto Rican so you call them and any one else also the illegales that are here which I know of a few that cause no trouble and are willing to work their asses off in the jobs that i have seen white men turn down or walk off of because they say the pay is not good enough. And seen a Mexican take it in a heartbeat and bee grateful for it so please do not stereo type a race.

DEIGO_LUIS
DEIGO_LUIS

JUST LOOK AT THE JOB LINES THE FIRST ONE'S THERE ARE MEXICANS AND THE FIRST ONE'S TO THE WELFARE LINE'S ARE PUERTO RICAN'S !!!!! THERE TALKERS NOT DOER'S. JUST LOOK AT ALL THE BUILDING GOING UP. NOT 1 RICAN IN THE WHOLE BUNCH!! THEY ARE WORSE THAN THE BLACKS WHEN IT COME'S TO GIVE ME SOMETHING FOR FREE. IT'S LIKE THEY WERE BORN WITH THERE HANDS ALREADY STICKING OUT FOR FREEBIES!!!!!

Alex T
Alex T

YOU HAVE SUCKED THE LIFE OUT OF ME WITH THIS EDITORIAL. REALLY!!!??? IS THIS ALL YOU CAN THINK OF TO WRITE ABOUT??MY LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AFTER READING THIS GARBAGE. I ALMOST FEEL LIKE POURING GASOLINE ON MYSELF AND LIGHTING A MATCH LOL!! WOW

reekan
reekan

@edfranco1 Puerto Ricans are a mix race.... Indian...Spanish and African... mix them up and you get exotic beautiful looking people! PR have won many Miss Universe titles... more than any other countries which area a million times bigger than itzy bitzy PR! Not "so many PR look BLK" we have a population where white are the largest percentage.. if you visit the Island you will see for yourself that most PR are white followed by indian mixed whites then blacks follow. JLO is a perfect example of how PR look regarding color...Ricky Martin.. Marc Anthony....Sonia sotomayor... are not blk? black PRS Rosie Perez Roberto Clemente..

Sealteam2
Sealteam2

Denise you're a dumb bitch. Race means nothing you dumb lechosa.

Sealteam2
Sealteam2

You're a dumb ignorant bitch. Race has nothing to o do with anything. Mexican men abuse their women really? Not all you stupid prick. Every race has good and bad.

EvilUnicorn
EvilUnicorn

@Denise  I'm one of those "mexicans" that married a very hard working Puertorican man, boricua from the beautiful island of Puerto Rico, and he is far from being a stalker or lazy.  I am from Southern California, and the Mexicans there seem lazy to me.

Nuyorican
Nuyorican

@Denise you sound like a dumb white bitch.  I hope you get broken into by mexicans and puerto ricans u dumb cunt!

Sealteam2
Sealteam2

There is good And bad in all races. I'm Puerto Rican and my best friend is Mexican from East L.A Ricans and Mexicans get along just fine. The dumb ignorant people try to make us beef.

EvilUnicorn
EvilUnicorn

@Pretty Mejicana I'm a chicana too, and my husband is Boricua from the island, and he is beautiful and I love his culture, and he loves mine.  I hate people who try to divide hispanics.

Nuyorican
Nuyorican

@Pretty Mejicana Thank you. I am Nuyorican and have very good mexican friends. I hate when other races try to start beef between us.  I welcome any latino from any country. We all need to stick together. Obviously were hated on by everyone else makes no sense to hate each other.  This country is gonna be predominantly latino in years to come. White people will have to start hating on eachother. 

Sealteam2
Sealteam2

Exactly. There is not one race better then the other . we are all the same .

reekan
reekan

@Brownpridehomes1 dude! there are lazy Puerto Ricans there are lazy blacks there are lazy whites there are lazy Mexicans..duh!

Lina
Lina

Wow, it's surprising how serious stereo types can get. Not all stereo types are literal. I'm puerto rican and my best friend is Mexican. Not to mention I find most mexican men very attractive. And really u cant say anything bad about us when half of the world is more messes up then we are. Everyone needs to calm down and stop being racist because it's just gonna cause more problems

it's all not white
it's all not white

I think its funny when mexicans or any other race curse blacks with whites because the white think all other races are something. The ones that hate pretty much hate all others and dont have time to disect and say "oh sorry, your mexican thought you were cuban.'

"It's ok honey you can come out he's not black he's puerto rican." That will be the day especially in Texas.

EvilUnicorn
EvilUnicorn

@the great divide Chicano is Mexican-American, not spanish.   You are not any better than anyone else.  I speak both languages without and accent, perfect english that whites think their talking to someone white, perfect spanish that mexicans think I'm Mexican.  I'm a true Chicana, Mexican-American from Southern Cali, you and your mom are stuck up and you can kiss my nalgas.

elizeo o
elizeo o

hey real smart person , what the hell are you trying say?

EvilUnicorn
EvilUnicorn

@Mari damb straight, la comida Mexicana es la mejor!

John
John

Theres many more differences than just the fact that were "Legal." just comes to show your ignorance. the fact that we speak different spanish. The most obvious one is that Ricans live on an island ! Idk whaty puerto ricans or mexicans you know but im a proud ass Boricua. I speak english and spanish. ohh btw dont you have to learn spanish ? because im pretty sure thats required now in high school and at almost every job in the "main land." Im pretty sure i could take your job from you just because of the fact that i am fluent in both spanish and english regardless of my background or whether or not im on welfare. which btw i am not. But nice try.

Sealteam2
Sealteam2

You're a scum bag piece of shit. People like you type tough but are the biggest pussies in real life .

reekan
reekan

@Welfare Rican What u meant to say is we have a kick ass parade! the city shuts down for Boricuas! they better! people get raped and murdered yr round in NYC without the parade duh! yes there is J-lo no other hispanic woman will top her success.... but Mr. hater u left out Jose Ferrer... Sonia Sotomayor...Roberto Clemento...Rita Moreno..Raul Julia, Ricky Martin and the list goes on....and on.... and yes we have section 8 and welfare freebies but so do whites blaks purple and green people...Am 100% full blooded full fledged Puerto Rican! wouldn't changed it for any other race.. we have it all looks.. talent and pride! vivan los Boricuas que son Boricuas de corazon!

Melissa
Melissa

Wow!!! Very ignorant remark...Shows the mentality we are working with...

Sealteam2
Sealteam2

Diego youre Worthless like your stupid parents.. Why do people breed and bring trash like you into this world..... You're a poor exscuse of life cabron.

Welfare Rican
Welfare Rican

Puerto Ricans are widely considered the "white trash" of the Latino world. They make other hispanic people look terrible and I have never met a decent Rican in my lifetime!

John
John

Luis thats a dumb statement. both mexicans and puerto ricans got hardworkers and bums. You cant just assume that because mexicans work hard for no money that it makes them better than puerto ricans. Their both very prideful ethnicities. Puerto Ricans dont like being called Mexicans and Mexicans probably dont like being called Puerto Rican; not that you can confuse a Mexican for Puerto Rican but still. Both races are completely different from eachother. I am Puerto Rican and I have never been on welfare as a matter fact I have 2 jobs and i go to a Junior College at the same time. So by you saying all of that just makes you ignorant. Btw our spanish is better. Not the best but better.

EvilUnicorn
EvilUnicorn

@Welfare Rican thats dumb.  I'm a chicana married to a boricua, and I have never heard anything like that.  The only thing i hear is that Puertoricans have big butts, and Mexicans have big boobs.  I guess My baby girl will have the best of both worlds.

reekan
reekan

@Welfare Rican hahahaha! white trash! what mental institution is this guy in again? You need to sit down and read yes r-e-a-d....PR history...educate yourself about PRS ...we have a rich and interesting history.....!

Lina
Lina

Maybe u haven't lived long enough

Welfare Rican
Welfare Rican

John, if you are not on welfare then I am assuming you are cheating Social Security. Plenty of Ricans who are cheating SSDI and SSI nowadays....

reekan
reekan

@Welfare Rican so are whites ! cheating the system where in North America do you live? You hear it all the time whites killing spouses to collect insurance! slipping on dry department floors ..to get money off owners... am Puerto Rican and love all races! there is no perfect race...we all have good ,bad and ugly folks within are races. You are scorned cause some pretty Puerto Rican chick left your sorry ass and now your little sissy ass can't get over it! I know him personally that is his story... btw he is Mexican

John
John

i have never cheated SSDI or SSI .. I pay my taxes just as much as you do. As a matter fact i got $3400 owed to me from taxes ..

 
Loading...