$500,000 government GRANT for some Academic to "study" street people action....talk about a waste of money and a phoney "researcher" fit to the task....WORTHLESS
By Stephen Young
By Stephen Young
By Stephen Young
By Jim Schutze
By Rachel Watts
By Lauren Drewes Daniels
Life is life, and you gotta do what you gotta do. It's like everybody can't be a doctor, a teacher or have rich parents take care of us. And it's gonna teach us, like — when we get older, we're gonna be stronger, 'cause we know life experience and stuff like that. And we're goin' to know what to do in certain situations because of what we've been through when we were younger. You gotta do what you gotta do to survive. —female, age 16
The first night Ric Curtis and Meredith Dank went looking for child prostitutes in the Bronx back in the summer of 2006, they arrived at Hunts Point with the windows of Curtis' peeling Oldsmobile, circa 1992, rolled down.
Curtis, who chairs the anthropology department at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan, had done research on the neighborhood's junkies and was well acquainted with its reputation for prostitution (immortalized in several HBO documentaries). If the borough had a centralized stroll for hookers, he figured Hunts Point would be it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: Village Voice Media, which owns this publication, owns the classified site Backpage.com. In addition to used cars, jobs and couches, readers can also find adult ads on Backpage; for this reason, certain activists and clergy members have called attention to the site, sometimes going so far as to call for its closure.
Certainly we have a stake in this discussion. And we do not object to those who suggest an apparent conflict of interest. We sat quietly and did not respond as activists held symposiums across America—from Seattle to Miami—denouncing Backpage. Indeed, we were never asked for response.
But then we looked at the "science" behind many of these activists' claims, and the media's willingness, without question, to regurgitate a litany of incredible statistics. In the interest of a more informed discussion, we decided to write.
But after spending several hours sweating in the muggy August air, the professor and his PhD student decided to head home. They'd found a grand total of three hookers. Only two were underage, and all three were skittish about climbing into a car with two strangers and a tape recorder.
Dispirited though they may have been, the researchers had no intention of throwing in the towel. They were determined to achieve their goal: to conduct a census of New York City's child sex workers.
Even before they'd begun gearing up for the project two months prior, Curtis and Dank knew the magnitude of the challenge they had on their hands.
No research team before them had hit on a workable method of quantifying this elusive population. For decades most law-enforcement officials, social workers and activist groups had cited a vast range — anywhere from tens of thousands to three million — when crafting a sound bite pegging the population of underage hookers nationwide. But the range had been calculated with little or no direct input from the children themselves.
Over time, the dubious numbers became gospel.
In similar fashion, monetary outlays based on the veracity of those numbers began to multiply.
The $500,000 the federal government had allotted for this joint study by John Jay and New York's public-private Center for Court Innovation was chump change compared with the bounty amassed by a burgeoning assortment of nonprofit groups jockeying to liberate and rehabilitate the captive legions of exploited and abused children.
Now Ric Curtis intended to go the direct route in determining how many kids were out there hooking: He and Dank were going to locate them, make contact with them and interview them one-on-one, one kid at a time. If they could round up and debrief 200 youths, the research team would be able to employ a set of statistically solid metrics to accurately extrapolate the total population.
It took two years of sleuthing, surveying and data-crunching, but in 2008 Curtis and Dank gave the feds their money's worth — and then some.
The results of the John Jay survey shattered the widely accepted stereotype of a child prostitute: a pre- or barely teen-age girl whose every move was dictated by the wiliest of pimps.
After their first attempt flopped, the two researchers switched tacks. They printed a batch of coupons that could be redeemed for cash and which listed a toll-free number that kids could call anonymously to volunteer for the survey. With a local nonprofit agency that specialized in at-risk youth on board to distribute an initial set of the coupons, the researchers forwarded the 1-800 line to Dank's cell phone and waited.
It took almost a week, but the line finally lit up. Soon afterward Dank met her first two subjects — one male, the other female — at a café near Union Square. Both were too old to qualify for the study, and the man said he'd never engaged in sex for pay. But Dank decided to stay and interview them.
The woman said she had worked as a prostitute and that she was confident she could send underage kids Dank's way. The man said he was 23, just out of jail and homeless.
"Out of the two of them, I thought she would have been the catalyst," Dank says now. "But his was the magic coupon."
Within a day her phone was "blowing up" with calls from kids who'd been referred by the homeless man. Almost as quickly word got around that two professors were holding late-afternoon "office hours" at Stuyvesant Park and would pay half the going rate for oral sex in exchange for a brief interview. Before long the researchers found themselves working long past dark, until they'd covered everyone in line or the rats got too feisty.
Nine months later Dank and Curtis had far surpassed their goal, completing interviews with 249 underage prostitutes. From that data, they were able to put a number on the total population of New York's teen sex workers: 3,946.
Most astonishing to the researchers was the demographic profile teased out by the study. Published by the U.S. Department of Justice in September 2008, Curtis and Dank's findings thoroughly obliterated the long-held core assumptions about underage prostitution:
$500,000 government GRANT for some Academic to "study" street people action....talk about a waste of money and a phoney "researcher" fit to the task....WORTHLESS
Though I applaud the efforts of this team and the years they dedicated to their story, it surprises me that the so-called "experts" are still asking the question - "why do the kids do this sort of thing?". The answers are IN THEIR STORY! These kids don't see any other way out of their poverty stricken life. And with no role models to guide them, THEY literally begin to follow other kids OR adults who have been in the "trade" since THEY were kids themselves! And to think that opening a "center" to try and "save" these kids is the answer - IT'S NOT! Take a look at this scenario - "Kid has been living the streets for well over a year now (if not longer) earning anywhere from $20 to $50 bucks per John/Trick daily with a "take home pay" of $20 to $150/per day. You take kid off the streets, clean him/her up through this "program", expect kid to take on a minumum wage job earning $7.25 to $8.25/per hour with a take home pay of $220 to $250/per week, attend some training school, all for the sake of "cleaning up", move into a place that'll take most of his/her wages, left with practically nothing to survive on - A smart street kid would laugh you out of the room!!! "You want met to do what? and earn how much?" Get real! And all for the sake of living a more clean and safe life. This is reality not the movies. And reality sucks for these kids but it's the only life they know. And though I'm all for saving as many as we can,.....the REALITY is, it's gonna be a lot harder than it looks. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink".
Where are all the underage children kidnapped and forced against their will by a pimp to have sex with the general public for money?
Where are all the Dallas Super Bowl 2011 child sex slaves? Let's talk to them.
How come we don’t see any of the forced victims themselves complaining about it? Why don’t the “millions of forced against their will child victims” talk about how they were kidnapped and forced against their will by a evil pimp to have sex for profit? I would like to have a interview with the “millions of forced against their will raped kidnapped child victims” So I could hear their stories.
Where are they? Why do we only hear from the anti-prostitution groups that received money and grants from the government, and not the millions of victims themselves? If there are Millions of them, Shouldn't the police and public know where they are, and shouldn't we hear the millions of victims speak?
Instead, none are found.
Do all men really love raping children who are kicking, crying and screaming, with no one willing to help? like the anti-prostitution groups say?
Also, it bothers me that once again, the focus is on MONEY and the KIDS. Why won't anyone go after the "johns"? I have zero concern for anyone who picks up prostitutes. It's still immoral to go after kids, but why people still do it at all is a mystery. There is literally anyone available to do anything, any type of person, any where, what with the Internet. Excepting with kids, its more stupid than illegal or immoral to do this anyway. Sort of like buying blackberries at the store when you have a blackberry tree outside....As for the foreign element, that would take our government asking more questions and using more bodies and firepower and that will never happen, it seems. And I have never heard of straight boys doing any prostitution. I guess it must exist but wow, I have never heard of a case of a grown woman picking up a teenage boy on the streets.
There is an important thing the authors of this new study, and many others in this article are missing....it's that "pimps" have been effectively slowed down over the years by several things:1. shift in attitudes and public policy, 2. greater sentencing, 3. a more sexually active young woman, willing to engage in sex in a sort of "kept woman" situation and 4. as the article shows, a more saavy youth willing to control their own business, in a sense. The focus seems to be on how much money is thrown at a particular type of exploited youth. I wish all these folks realized that the "stereotypical" child prostitute has merely CHANGED. Not putting any emphasis on exploited girls (which I am sure is coming) will simply increase this happening again. A balanced approach is needed.
Myth?? Really?? What I find so rediculous about this article and its title is that underage prostitutes aren't going to be found simply by staking out a corner in New York and passing out contact information. Maybe that would be an effective tactic if they were merely trying to get a general idea of the ages and motivations of street prostitutes but as far as the sex trafficking trade goes, it's all highly illegal, highly secretive and the pimps aren't simply going to allow these kids to roam the streets. They are kidnapped, imprisoned and sold. I can't even begin to say how many articles I've read about young girls from Mexico disappearing and either being found beaten and raped, discovered in a hidden basement in some run down shack or never found at all. If the writers at The Dallas Observer really wanted to debunk any "myths", they need to invest a bit more effort than simply handing out fliers in the street. I also find it reprehensible that the supposed numbers and statistics are in question to begin with. Who cares?? Why don't we just do whatever we can to, if not stop it, put a dent in their profits and anonymity.
Let's try a new approach: Who, in the reading audience, has had a time in their own life in which they would have prostituted themselves in order to financially save themselves? At what age?
Why don't they just interview the johns that use the underage prostitutes. I suggest they check the local churches and then republican headquarters.
If there were not johns, There would be no sex trade. I think tht johns should be the first arrest and mandatory 5 years in jail. Then the one selling the addiction. Should be arrested and given 5 years in jail. Then when both get out send each to a island for another 5 years, for rehab, and sterilization.And therir pimps should be hung on the spot.
The scarily unstated conclusion? What's getting these kids into the sex trade isn't sleazy, foreign pimps; it's us as a society. It's a shitty economy, failed social services, abusive social workers/cops; and politicians, charities and projects who care more about the appearance of doing good and what they think is going on than actually helping these kids out.
Super Bowl 2011:
According to the media hype There was supposed to be hundreds of thousands of under age child sex slaves kidnapped and forced to have sex with super bowl fans. At the Dallas Super Bowl 2011. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THEM????????????
It was all a big lie told by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, government officials, and various anti-prostitution groups: Traffick911, Not for Sale, Change-org, A Future Not A Past, Polaris Project, Salvation Army, Women’s Funding Network, and the Dallas Women’s Foundation, which are anti-prostitution groups that tell lies in order to get grant money from the government and charities to pay their high salaries, and get huge amounts of money into their organizations.
As proved in the link below:Top FBI agent in Dallas (Robert Casey Jr.) sees no evidence of expected spike in child sex trafficking:
“Among those preparations was an initiative to prevent an expected rise in sex trafficking and child prostitution surrounding the Super Bowl. But Robert Casey Jr., special agent in charge of the FBI’s Dallas office, said he saw no evidence that the increase would happen, nor that it did.
“In my opinion, the Super Bowl does not create a spike in those crimes,” he said. “The discussion gets very vague and general. People mixed up child prostitution with the term human trafficking, which are different things, and then there is just plain old prostitution.”
This myth of thousands or millions of underage sex slaves tries to make every sports fan a sex criminal. No matter what the sport is, or in what country it is in.
Brian McCarthy isn’t happy. He’s a spokesman for the NFL. Every year he’s forced to hear why his customers are adulterers and child molesters. Brian McCarthy says the sport/super bowl sex slave story is a urban legend, with no truth at all.
The idea of people getting the wrong information and believing lies, is bad. No matter what the topic is. The Sex trafficking, slavery issue is one of the biggest lies being told today. It is amazing to me how people will believe such lies so easily. The media is to blame for this. I wonder why they feel such a need to report wrong stats, numbers and information about this topic without doing proper research.
While this may happen in very rare limited situations, the media will say that millions of people are sex slaves without doing any real research on the topic. Only taking the word of special interest anti-prostitution groups which need to generate money in the form of huge government grants from taxpayers, and charities. These “non profit” group’s employees make huge salaries, therefore they need to lobby the government, and inflate and invent victims in order to get more money into their organizations. If you look into how many real kidnapped forced against their will sex slaves there are, and not just take the anti-prostitution groups word for it. You will be very surprised.Where are all the forced sex slaves? I would like to meet the millions of slaves and see for myself if they were kidnapped and forced against their will.
These groups lobby the government in a big way, getting Politicians to truly believe their lies. This is an attempt to over inflate an issue in order to get more government money to these organizations. As a tax payer, voter, and resident I don’t want the government to mislead me.
I would like to see a news organization do a full report on the lies, myths and exaggerated numbers being told about sex trafficking slaves. The articles about the super bowl sex slaves, has been proved wrong many times, but news organizations still report about it, as if it were fact.
== World Cup 2006 ==
Politicians, religious and aid groups, still repeat the media story that 40,000 prostitutes were trafficked into Germany for the 2006 world cup – long after leaked police documents revealed there was no truth at all in the tale. A baseless claim of 25,000 trafficking victims is still being quoted, recently, for example, by the Salvation Army in written evidence to the home affairs select committee, in which they added: “Other studies done by media have suggested much higher numbers.” Which has been proven by the German police to be completely false. Yet people still talk about these false numbers as if it were fact.
==World Cup 2010 ==Again using the made up number of 40,000 prostitutes trafficked:
The behavior of fans in South Africa has run contrary to what was predicted prior to the start of the tournament after David Bayever told World Cup organizers in March it was feared that up to 40,000 extra prostitutes could converge in the host nation to meet the expected demand. Bayever, deputy chairperson of South Africa’s Central Drug Authority (CDA) that advises on drug abuse but also works with prostitutes, warned: “Forty-thousand new prostitutes. As if we do not have enough people of our own, we have to import them to ensure our visitors are entertained.”
But the tournament in 2010, if anything, has seen the modern-day soccer fan attracted to art galleries and museums over brothels.
A trend that has seen a drop in revenue across the board for the prostitution industry, which is illegal in South Africa. “Zobwa,” the chairperson of Sisonke — an action group representing around 70 street prostitutes in Johannesburg — said business had been down over the last month. “The World Cup has been devastating. We thought it was going to be a cash cow but it’s chased a lot of the business away. It’s been the worst month in my company’s history,” the owner and founder of one of Johannesburg’s most exclusive escort companies told CNN.
In recent years, every time there has been a major international sporting event, a group of government officials, campaigning feminists, pliant journalists and NGOs have claimed that the movement of thousands of men to strange foreign countries where there will be lots of alcohol and horniness will result in the enslavement of women for the purposes of sexual pleasure. Obviously. And every time they have simply doubled the made-up scare figures from the last international sporting event, to make it look like this problem of sport/sex/slavery gets worse year on year. Yet each year it is proved false.
This myth tries to make every sports fan a sex criminal. No matter what the sport is, or in what country it is in. These anti-prostitution groups need to in invent a victim that does not exist in order to get press attention.
Here are some good websites about sex trafficking:
well.....ONCE I had to ACTUALLY do some PHYSICAL labor to earn money.....gosh....hardly makes the monthly fee for a cell phone, or price of a Starbucks latte!!
The trouble with these arguments is they seem to be a copy paste that a madam/pimp who admitted to selling people, pastes over and over again all over the web. It sure does sound like her all over again here, or someone who copies the same info she does. She does not seem to have anything else to do when not selling people. So she spends a lot of time trying to discredit victims. Dig far enough back and you can find on her sites that she mocks and humiliates victims of assault, and flat out says that victims who identify themselves with a trauma history are liars. This was the Village Voice Dllas Observer research point woman for one of their last attacks on anti-traffickers. Yes, they went to a woman who mocks assault victims and calls victims who speak out liars. Gross. And don't forget that the Village Voice/Dallas Observer owned back pages got busted with ads where minors were sold. They have a lot to cover up here and their agendas are totally, obviously corrupt.
Really? What evidence do you have to make these claims?
Who admitted to selling people?
Show us where the person you are talking about admitted to selling people.
...and who are you talking about?
It is amazing how you make up statements, and lie.