Frankly speaking, I have never consider about it. But what can we do if we own the monster.com.
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Boom shaka-laka: Occupy Dallas called for a general "strike" by wage earners this week. We're not sure which day, because, you know, it's a fluid movement (in more ways than one). Whichever day it was, none of us were supposed to shop or show up at work. Ooh, better lay in that stock of patchouli and rolling papers now, folks, 'cause you never know when your favorite store will be forced to close its doors for want of workers.
That was harsh, wasn't it? Sorry. Been reading too many Internet commenters lately. Man, those guys really hate hippies, which seems sort of oddly quaint. It's like getting all worked up about phrenologists.
On a kinder note, as Occupy protesters have broken camps in the occasional fog of industrial-strength spray condiments, many thoughtful, intelligent political observers have praised them for calling attention to growing income inequality in the nation. This is, of course, a very important public service provided to all those Merle Haggard fans on the 'net and others who have been in comas since Billie Holiday recorded "God Bless the Child" in 19 freakin' 41. ("Them that's got shall get. Them that's not shall lose.")
Which is it? Hippie-driven failure or the flowering of a new progressive movement? Well, only time will ... will ... oh, shit. Let's just say it: fail. Epic fail.
Look, it's not that their cause, such as it was, is bad, but any political effort that kicks off with underemployed young people sitting in drum circles is doomed. The last people to gain any political traction that way were the Zulu in 1874, and they backed their arguments up with assegai. And they still lost to the British.
We called Grady Don Sandlin, music teacher and drummer with the band RTB2, to see if we were making too much of the drumming. Drum circles "never seemed like a very inviting thing, even when I was a hippie," he said. Sandlin wasn't knocking anyone's politics. He just didn't find Occupy Whatever particularly appealing. Though he often performs at benefits for causes he supports, he turned down the chance to play one for Occupy Dallas. As he put it, "You want me to work so you don't have to?"
Yeah. What he said. Maybe it's just time to call off any political movement that involves people who don't work, take vague, pie-in-sky, outmoded positions and dress or behave in silly, outdated ways. Oh, and all you retirees in the tricorn hats, we're looking at you too, you goofy bastards.
Frankly speaking, I have never consider about it. But what can we do if we own the monster.com.
This is one of the dumbest articles I've ever seen. Completely worthless & even repeats the lie about the Occupy movement that they "...want me to work so you don't have to?". THAT HAS NEVER BEEN WHAT THEY WANT. They don't want handouts - they want more EQUALITY. The wealthy have made out like bandits, raking the biggest paydays & the biggest profits in HISTORY by using shady, fraudulent practices that bankrupted the country & sent all the jobs overseas!!! Everyone else (the people who actually DO the work) are making less & less. The republicans' latest battles to ensure more tax breaks for the wealthy & tax increases on everyone else is a perfect example of what they're fighting against. Thanks for continuing to spread lies...would hate it if ya'll ever became a reliable news organization.
I am an independent - neither republican or democrat. Middle class - not rich but not poor. But I have never been able to figure out what the specific goals are of the protesters. Ask 10 different protesters, you get 10 different answers. Some say they want jobs. Some say campaign finance reform. Some say against bailouts. Some say against the Afghan war. You say they want equality - but what do they want to address that? Is there some specific legislation? Do you tell the wealthy there is a limit on their wealth? Do you break up big corporations? I agree that their is corruption - are they asking that people who committed the fraud go to jail? I have never heard a specific goal like this. All I have heard are generalizations like "against greed" or "for the common man" or "take back our government". The protests are unfocused, lack a clear message, and are often disorganized.
It also doesn't help when they negatively impact innocent bystanders - like nearby storeowners who protesters think should allow them to use their restrooms or to supply them with free food. In New York, a protester broke the plumbing of a store and flooded the store. They also disrupted the operation of many mom and pop stores. They used the hallways of nearby apartement buildings for restrooms - so residents had to clean them up. The protesters are sometimes inconsiderate of the people they claim to be fighting for.
Somebody's getting paid by the letter here. The fact is that people will see what they want to see when they don't approve of the movement's message. Perhaps Patrick can't stand percussion instruments because they distract him from his frequent flute playing.
Good article. It is hypcritical of these protesters to say thet want jobs when it is the holiday season and many businesses (Target, Walmart, post office, Fedex, UPS, many mall stores, department stores, etc.) are hiring temporary workers. Instead of applying at these places, the protesters sit around and cry about not having a job. Many people use temporary work to get their foot in the door and end up as permanent workers - assuming of course that they show up and work hard. But these protesters feel they are entitled for employers to come to them. You can't get a job if you never look or apply for ont.
So you're saying the nearly 30 million people that are currently jobless should all apply at Target, Walmart, the post office, FedEx, UPS, mall and department stores for minimum wage, night and weekend shifts, and part-time hours?
The Occupy crowd is mainly kids because they don't have three part-time jobs to keep the mortgage paid for (like I did this time last year) or 7 kids to take care of (like my friend does now) - that doesn't mean the message they're trying to put forth (that the system has been gamed by folks with enough money not to need to game the system) is childish.
That said, drum circles are stupid as hell - that was a good point.
So you are saying that if someone is unemployed, they should NOT apply for a job to get SOME income? So it is better to have no income than some money coming in? If I was unemployed and had no money comiing in - yes - I would definitely apply for ANY job to get some income. If I was unemployed, I would not be so arrogant to say wouldn't work weekends or night shifts.
Yes I am saying they should apply for holiday jobs. At least they would be trying to take care of themselves instead sitting around and demanding $100,000/yr, 9-5 jobs.
If these are kids with little skills and no experience, these jobs are precisely the types of jobs they should apply for. I know of one guy who started part time at the post office, showed up on time, worked his job, and ended up working there later at a permannent job. Where I work, some started as temporary workers, showed what good employees they were, and were hired on.
You don't ever get a job if you never apply and try to get a job - sitting around complaining about it is not going to get the job they want.
Message? What is the message? Ask 10 different protesters and ypu get 10 different answers. The last 2 weeks, articles in the DMN were not about any cause or goal. The stories were abut the illegal camp site, whether they would stay in the camp site, one so called "leader" assaulting another, and about when the DPD kicked them out of the campsite. There was no news about any message, goals, or causes. Their main goal was to stay in the campsite.
I don't care about age. You are the one who said, "The Occupy crowd is mainly kids". I brought up jobs because 1 protester said they were protesting the lack of jobs. You said, "there just aren't any". I brought up the holiday opportunities than many others apply for. Then you said these jobs were not good because they were, "minimum wage, night and weekend shifts, and part-time hours". So you are saying that even when someone has NO JOB AT ALL, these jobs are inconvenient and not user friendly. Sorry but I doubt too many recruiters are going to stop by the Occupy Dallas camp site and offer someone a $125k/yr, 9-5 executive job. As I said, many temp holiday jobs are turned into permanent jobs later - assuming that the people show up and work hard - which is questionable for many kids these day.
As for complaining. How is camping out at Dallas City Hall going to address any of the goals of the protesters (whatever they may be)? The city doesn't regulate major corporations. CEOs of big corporations are NOT located at city hall. Why good were the protesters doing camped out out at Dallas city hall? If they can't get together to explain the protest goals - such as civil rights or Jim Crow laws - how is anything going to get done?
Message? What message? I don't mind the protest but they never had or have any clear goals of what they were protesting for. Ask 10 protesters and you get 10 different answers (Take back our govt or jobs or against big corporations or bank bailouts or campaign finance reform or financial inequity). If you read the DMN during the last 2 weeks of their campout, the stories were not about any cause or goals, The stories were about the camp site, how they were going stay there, the DPD kicking them out. There were no stories about any cause because their main goal seemed to be remaining in the camp.
I am not focusing on kids, I could care less how old they are. You are the one who said, "The Occupy crowd is mainly kids". I read they were complaining about no jobs. You are saying there "just aren't any". Well, I just pointed out where they could get holiday jobs - like many others have done - if they would try. But then you say that these jobs are "minimum wage, night and weekend shifts, and part-time hours". So now you say the potential jobs are too menial and inconvenient even they though they may have NO JOBS AT ALL. How were they looking for jobs when they sat around the camp all day? Do they think someone will go to the illegal campsite and offer one of these people a $125k/year executive position? There are many people who have applied for holiday jobs and would be grateful to have them.
As for their method of complaining. You say, "I could go sit and complain with them". How is sitting and camping out by Dallas city hall doing anything? The city of Dallas doesn't pass any legislation that would affect any of the multitude of complaints they have. There are no CEOs of major corporations residing around city hall. Who in the area would care or could act on any of the supposed protest goals?
And again, you're focusing on the fact they're kids and not the message.
Here's the facts: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.... - people ARE looking for jobs, there just aren't any. Kids are having a harder and harder time finding jobs because out-of-work adults are taking the menial positions we used to expect kids to take - unemployment for people under 24 is twice the national average: http://online.wsj.com/article/...
So you don't like they're sitting around and complaining? Complaining got slavery abolished, women the right to vote, Jim Crow laws abolished, equal funds for women's sports programs in schools, schools desegregated, and America its independence. Wish I didn't have to be at my job so I could go sit and complain with them.
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