"The Bad Seed" became iconic because it slipped past the development people. Rhoda Penmark sells.
By Stephen Young
By Stephen Young
By Stephen Young
By Jim Schutze
By Rachel Watts
By Lauren Drewes Daniels
Let me hasten again to say I am not smarter than stars. Stars know their business, too. They will not attach themselves to characters that audiences will hate forever. The people in my book — do you mind if I do not call them "characters?" — wound up coming across as persons you might easily detest until your dying day or theirs.
The star whom the development people always wanted to attach was Drew Barrymore, who was then about 20. One development person called me and told me she had just read "my" murder scene. "Drew would never do this," she said.
"The part?" I asked.
"No, the murder."
I wanted to say, "Oh, my Lord, no, I never meant to imply that Ms. Barrymore would do anything remotely like this." But I held my peace. I had already had this same conversation with three or four other development persons at other studios where the project had already failed. I knew what was coming next.
I was about to be told that I hadn't "developed the characters enough." I hadn't plumbed their depths to find "their true motivation." I didn't understand that people don't just do awful things like this "out of the blue."
I would be asked if I had ever looked closely at the parents. I would be told that they seemed to be these typical middle-class suburban doofuses who don't get anything about their own children. They're probably huge hypocrites. A lot of kids suffer real psychological damage — it's called congenital dissidence or something — because of the mixed signals they get from their stupid middle-class hypocrite shlub parents, and then they do wild stuff that they don't even really mean to do. What about that?
In other words, "Not Drew's fault really. Her mom and dad's fault. What she did was awful, but we'd still love to see her next movie."
And so, as I had killed all of the previous iterations of my movie, I also killed this one. I sent the studio a letter — by now almost a form letter — saying I had spent two years researching the parents and had found not one scintilla of even remotely plausible justification for putting the blame on them in any way. Should a movie be made with that plot line and should any sort of litigation ensue — these being, after all, not "characters" but real people with access to the courts — I would immediately offer my services to the plaintiffs as a witness. And bang! Once more the project was dead and my incredibly able agent, Janet Manus, sallied forth to sell it again.
Some of the reasons for displacing blame from "characters" in commercial media like true-crime books and movies are commercial. Straight-up blame — a thesis that is basically moral, in fact — is not commercial. The audience won't like it. Drew won't do it. No star will attach. Blah-blah-blah.
But what's going on in stories that are still straight news, that have not yet reached the sleazy commercial level of rendering? Why is it such an important impulse of the culture to search the parents of young killers for blame and then to gin up some ersatz psychiatric deus-ex-machina excuse for them?
I think I have to pause again — does this make it the third time? — to talk about how little I know. I do not know, obviously, what was or was not wrong inside the head of the killer in Newtown. He may turn out to have been taking orders directly from the man in the moon. We really do not know.
But I'm not talking about his head. I'm talking about your head. My head. Our heads and our hearts. Why does there seem to be such a powerful cultural impetus to turn away from even considering the possibility of evil as an explanation, especially when killers are young?
Evil. It's big. It's a major industry. Evil people love their work. Human beings develop the capacity for evil at whatever age they develop the capacity to choose between right and wrong. If we believe in free will — and I do — then a logically necessary corollary is that people, including very young people, may choose to do evil in spite of having had the best parents and the best opportunities in the world.
Evil may be a bad plotline for true crime-books, novels and movies, because it doesn't have any moving parts. The scene is somebody staring at his knee in a parked car while he decides.
But this isn't fiction. This is life. We live in a moral universe. Why, then, are we so loath to comprehend it morally?
"The Bad Seed" became iconic because it slipped past the development people. Rhoda Penmark sells.
I can't speak on the book, but holy hell "Bully" was a shite movie. It felt like a group of untalented actors came over and murdered 2 hours of my life. I don't blame their parents, though.
People tend to credit bad acts to "society" (whatever that is) and good acts to the person. This is especially the case with younger children, and with an extreme act such as murder. I think it was Thomas Sasz who wrote about this.
I expected to find this excellent column over on Unfair Park, where a lot of noise is usually made about Jim's alleged libtardness. Jim is not liberal in any conventional sense. Jim is a moralist and these days that marks him as even more a contrarian than most of us ever suspected.
Jim, glad someone giving this book ink. A great piece of work. Quite the project. I was very surprised/scared/etc to find a childhood friend in it recounting his brother's battle. Made it a bit more visceral. I remember the brother, we all thought he was different, but chalked it up to the usual individuality plus a red one... A rude awakening to earn that he had trouble later in life.
Curious to know about the religious backgrounds of these families and teens. Any commonalities there?
Under the "Well, duh," category, I'd hasten to add that there is an issue even beyond whether these young men are evil or not. The parents chose to have high-powered weapons and unstable young men sharing the same household. Even if the parenting is perfect and these young guys are evil, it still comes down to access to weapons.
Catholic, Protestant, None, some of the kids raised in church and church youth group, lots of soccer, ballet lessons, etc.
Hardly. Hannah Arendt's famous phrase evokes that state of society in which evil, reinforced by political and cultural habits, is accepted as the norm, the everyday. It prevails. The Connecticut school shootings, the Aurora theater massacre, the Florida beatings are horrific because they are not the norm or the everyday or the banal. But they ARE evil.
@kduble Did you even read the article? "Well duh" - The case that Jim wrote in Bully did not involve guns but did involve a mixture of teenagers of both genders. Second, the parents of the Columbine punks did not provide the guns. From my understanding the homes of the Columbine killers were gun free. So you prove Jim's point about the desire to blame everything but the moral choice made by the evil doers.
In my opinion, this incident and the school shootings are miles apart. I'll agree that "banality of evil" doesn't help us to explain the latter, at all. In the incident Jim profiles here, there are several kids that appear to be driven to this murder by a common cause: retribution. In the school shootings, Columbine notwithstanding, it has generally been a single disturbed individual that perpetrates these sort of incidents.
The kids that Shutze describes here represent society in a microcosm. It apparently wasn't too difficult for them to become aggrieved to such an extent by this "bully" that they formed a distinct class, and acted in such a manner to bring about the demise of their tormentor. Now, either the harassment that "bully" brought down on these kids was so intolerable that it sparked this violent response that ended in the death of the "bully", or the class of victims normalized the idea among themselves that "bully" needed to be dealt with harshly - think "Lord of the Flies". I think that falls neatly into the "Banality of evil" paradigm.
Jim's point here and the larger point in general, I think, is that these particular kids don't represent some distinct class of folks that come from a separate segment of society. These are your friends and neighbors, living the very same sorts of banal lives that most of us do, that produce kids that sometimes go off the rails.
@cheeseburger So, you're policing parental difference in the article. Makes sense.
@mcdallas @cheeseburger @JimSX That it makes a damn bit of difference how their parents raised them. The central point of this article.
Are you of the opinion that once a certain phrase is applied to a certain situation is verboten from describing another situation? Is "banality of evil" somehow trademarked for the holocaust? That's rather elitist of you, bmarvel.
Look, I know you think that you are "schooling" me on Arendt's intent, here. And, although I haven't read the book, (it's on my list, among many, many others) I'm quite familiar with the concept as it is presented, there. Furthermore, I've had the unique opportunity to discuss the idea that Arendt proposes therein with an acquaintance that actually spent her pre-teens and early adolescence in Nazi Germany as a German citizen, even indoctrinated into the "Hitler Youth" program. They played along with everyone else right up until the time her parents were able to get her and the rest of their family on a boat the hell away from there. She is of the opinion that Arendt is full of shit. She thinks that most people that signed on to the madness knew full-well what they were doing when the shit hit the fan in 1930's Germany. Not that that has anything to do with this particular conversation.
Like I said, you may disagree with the parallels that I have drawn, and that is fine. But don't be obtuse and deliberately misread what I have said.
Do you really see no differentiation between the school shootings and the Bully incident? Both are forms of evil, but they are not sprung from the same well.
@TheCredibleHulk @bmarvel Every crime, every act of violence, every evil seems normal, reasonable, even desirable, to the perps. It does not sink to the level of the banal until that view is shared by society at large. Seven teens bent on revenge don't constitute a society. Nor, it goes without saying, does a lone shooter in a school classroom. You have misunderstood and therefore misused Hannah Arendt's phrase.
Apparently, you don't comprehend your reading very well, or you just don't care to do so. You restate the very argument that I made in your first paragraph, which is exactly what Jim said in his piece. There is no correlation between the very normal lives these kids lived and their horrific actions. I'm not at all saying that the crimes themselves here are "banal". If that's what you got out of my response, then I'll try to elaborate for you.
I'm saying that in that particular group of kids, that "class", whether it was planned or spur of the moment action, these kids were driven to that extreme because nobody around them at the time was able to look rationally at this course of action and say, "No, this is a morally wrong and egregious overreaction to whatever provocation by bully." Much as the events leading up to and surrounding the holocaust were seen as normal to the folks that populated that particular society at the time, the rest of the world was horrified by these collective actions.
So, my point was, that to society at large, these incidents are horrific., but to the populace of Nazi Germany at the time, it seemed rational, and, to the perpetrators of the "bully" scenario, this was seen as reasonable among themselves, at least for the moment that they were enacting this murder.
I'll admit that it isn't a perfect parallel with Arendt's thesis, but I think the concept "banality of evil" here applies.
So feel free to disagree, but please don't try to redefine what I have written to justify your response.
@TheCredibleHulk "Jim's point here and the larger point in general, I think, is that these particular kids don't represent some distinct class of folks that come from a separate segment of society."
It isn't a matter of what "class" or"segment" they belong to. It's a matter of what they did. Jim made the same assumptions starting out that we all make: There must be some explanation for what these kids did, their parents, their poverty, their...whatever. But there wasn't. Seemingly, they were just kids, the kind you might find in any shopping center on a Saturday, the kind who might live next door, There was, in the end, no way to explain why they did what they did.
That doesn't make what they did "banal," within the meaning of Hannah Arendt's phrase. Have you read her book, "Eichmann in Jerusalem"? She means by the phrase that evil had become the norm in Nazi Germany, the expected. Thus nobody blinked an eye when Jews were carted off for forced labor and death.
On the contrary, the Florida beatings, like the shootings in Aurora, in Connecticut -- like all such crimes-- astonished and horrified everyone. How can something that provokes widespread public horror and condemnation be "banal?"
The deeper problem here -- and this is at the center of Jim's excellent column -- is our persistent efforts to explain evil,to figure out its cause as though it were some kind of traffic accident. The theater and school shooters were mentally disturbed. Okay, so are uncounted others who have not expressed that disturbance on shooting sprees.
Evil is perhaps the deepest of all human mysteries. We persist in assigning causes. That's a big part of the "liberal" agenda: If we just create the perfect society, evil will go away. No, it won't. Evil is like a living thing, It reproduces and spreads, popping up sometimes in places where it's least expected. Anyone can be a carrier, anyone can be a victim. But whatever it is, it is not banal.