"We have indeed started taking the story and the music into the next phase," he says. "We'll be keeping the masked men characters, which we worked on over the past summer, all the way up until the New Year. With the three of us filming and recording Defender II for the past few months, it's exciting to say that it's 70 percent done before the release of Defender I."

When a band (nicely) asks as much of the listener as These Machines Are Winning do, it's nice to hear Silvers break it down to basic parts when describing his process and his understanding of his own talents.

"When we started writing these songs, we truly never set a path to do the kind of music we're doing now. But I have accepted that this is what I do best — simple two- or three-minute keyboard- and guitar-driven pop songs."

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