The conversation circled around to Waco's new reputation as home to Fixer Upper hosts Chip and Joanna Gaines. Thibodeau, who now lives in Maine but still returns to Waco for memorials and reunions, had this to say.
I wrote a story about Waco earlier this year, and Chip and Joanna Gaines, who have this TV show on HGTV. That's Waco's reputation now. When I speak to people, they say, "Oh, Waco was the wackos earlier, but now it's completely changed." What do you think about Waco's new reputation? The history of the Branch Davidians will always be there, but it's shifted. They worship Chip and Jo in Waco now. What do you think about all that?
Could you repeat that? What you just said? They worship what?
They worship Chip and Joanna Gaines in Waco. I mean, their whole home furnishings line and home renovation business. Do you know anything about that?
Joanna Gaines? No, I've never heard of them.
Oh, you haven't?
Oh, well. There you go.
There's a couple named Gaines that are worshiped?