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Ashurbanipal 12/21/2010 5:15:00 AM
Excellent article, Schutze. Never let their story be forgotten until these wrongs have been righted.
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TomCat4U 10/09/2010 7:17:00 AM
My neighborhood is Called Glen Oaks, it is southwest of South Oak Cliff. I have watch over the years as all our tax dollars have been invested in North Dallas. Many do not know that the majority of Dallas's tax base comes from the Southern sector, but city hall and city government have been determined to let this part of the city fall thru the cracks. If there it is new it is introduced on the North side, this is the Good Old Boy method of taking care of business in Dallas, I will provide a business in your area to suck all the money out, but will not reinvest in the area.
It is ludicrous to operate in this manner, as soon as you pass the Trinity River all investing ends. Property values have always been depressed and insurance has always been escalated for homes and automobiles. This is a city divided by a river just like train tracks divide the races in the days of old. I cannot say it is discrimination against a race, it is discrimination against a very important vital portion of this city and we are only as strong as our weakest link.
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biffula 10/07/2010 7:14:00 PM
More $ for city hall my eye. They need to learn to cut back like the rest of us. Start by cutting employees salaries in half.
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Tom Rimes 10/07/2010 2:43:00 PM
Over ten years ago I moved about 50 mi. outside of Dallas. At the time, I enjoyed going to the Lakewood or lower Greenville areas for the music and to meet people. At the time I considered moving to one of the older areas of the city undergoing gentrification.
I am sure glad I did not. I won't even drive into the City of Dallas now, if I can help it.
Good article, thanks.
Tom Rimes
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richard schumacher 09/17/2010 7:16:00 PM
I assume that we can't just start shooting those f!!ckers? No? OK. Then the only thing left is to move to a different city, returning when we have enough scratch to buy off the right councilanimals. I hear there are some nice spreads available in the Park Cities.
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m riley 09/15/2010 7:42:00 PM
Why are you letting these people stay in office?
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Ron Burchett 09/15/2010 5:31:00 PM
Unbelievable, we need to strip these people of immunity from prosecution asap. They hide behind this "immunity" like a force field. They need to be held accountable for their ILLEGAL actions. Their arbitrary actions have caused real monetary damages to this young family. Wonder why no one will invest in Oak Cliff?? Just drive through Oak Cliff and look around...better yet, drive through at 11:00 PM and look. This could all be fixed with term limits on politicians at every level of government and forbidding citizen politicians from building these untouchable empires, have them go home after 2 terms and live under the rules they passed, no consulting or lobbying. Our founding fathers did not intend politics to be a vocation, rather it should be a selfless service to your community. Where did we go wrong? Is it too late to fix it? I hope not.
Ron Burchett
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i need some speculation 09/15/2010 3:56:00 PM
Great article. There is something I would like to hear from Schutze. What would the possible motivations be in denying this couple multi-family permitting? Speculation welcome.
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Marco 09/15/2010 2:50:00 AM
Schutze, Thank you for a very well written sob story. I feel bad for for Jen and Josh, but not that bad. They only lost a 100k. They are both young, educated, and white. Had they been a minority the city council would not come up with a lawsuit in this mix. Jen and Josh didnt pay off "someone", thats why they lost this one. As for our city council, come on, this is Dallas, city council members are basically fundraisers for their cronies and themselves. Jen and Josh will make up for this by the time they reach 35, trust me on this one.
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JF 09/14/2010 7:47:00 PM
Thelisma-
Not sure why you'd implicate Spence in this. He doesn't really have any interests in or near Kings Highway. As for the Terry's, it should have been pretty clear that this was operating as a multi-family illegally. Rick Garza may be a political insider, but he locates his multi-family structures in districts that are actually zoned to allow them. That portion of the neighborhood is absolutely not zoned for multi-family, and it makes no difference to me how it was operating in 1978, to be honest. Sometimes, the market is right. It priced this home at $90k because that's about what gut jobs that can be resold as single family homes sell for in the Kings Highway district. Multi-family properties sell for more, regardless of condition because of the rental income. The city has dirty hands in this, but Terry was also looking to get something for nothing.
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joh lee 09/14/2010 6:45:00 AM
There are just no two ways about it: DALLASS SUCKS!!! DALLASS SUCKED in ages past; DALLASS SUCKS now; and there is no doubt whatsoever that DALLASS will CONTINUE to SUCK far into the future, as long as DALLASS is in EXISTENCE! I am personally certain that DALLASS has sucked for 52 years .
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Chad 09/14/2010 2:32:00 AM
Hence why my wife and I put up with a longer commute to live in the 'burbs. Hopefully some day Dallas residents will wake up to the "Little Chicago" they keep voting in there in Dallas.
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Thelisma Partridge 09/13/2010 10:19:00 PM
Jen and Josh Terry made the same mistake as Sean Segura and Robert Ramirez. If you make a move on the N.O.C. Mafia's territory without their blessing they make a call to their political puppet - err, city councilman, and it's Game Over.
Way to go, Spence. Your arrogance is exceeded only by your sense of self-importance.
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james 09/13/2010 10:06:00 PM
they need a pay cut. i'll be voting against any politician who gives them a tax hike.
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09/13/2010 8:14:00 PM
Sorry, Mr. Terry, You're dealing with government. Not government gone wrong - you're dealing with the regular, day-to-day, mandated, SOP government - the reason I advocate liberty for all.
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Never A Texan 09/12/2010 5:54:00 PM
This is exactly why my husband and I will never, ever purchase a piece of property in Dallas or any other City in Texas. This is Absurd. Every day I see something in the news about Dallas City Hall Corruption from the police to scholarships for minorities. I am proud to say that I was not born or raised in TAXASS. I have had 7 years of nothing but heavy handed government and rude people. We moved here in hopes that we were moving to a conservative state. Boy have our eyes been open. On a side note, we own multiple properties in another state. We, unfortunately, purchased a home here when we first move here, totally unaware of the outrageous property taxes. As soon as the housing market turns, we are out of here. I think this is very sad and an unfortunate experience for this young couple. Take your hard earned money from TAXASS and invest it in another state. I'm sure Jerry Jones or Mark Cubin would not be treated this way. Mark Cubin is giving money to the City of Dallas in an attempt to prevent property taxes to be raised. The amount he is giving the City of Dallas in an attempt to prevent property taxes is a drop in the bucket for him, as I'm sure the benefits to Mark Cubin giving $100K to the City of Dallas will be just another kickback to him in a corrupt scheme of events.
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mike overbeck 09/12/2010 3:40:00 PM
The very ones protesting for a tax increases, probaly do not pay a dime in taxes.
In God We Trust
Mike
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Frank 09/12/2010 1:32:00 AM
Will Dallas survive? As soon as the housing gets better, i am out of here. I have lived here all my life, 49 years and can't wait to leave. Is it any wonder most people now choose to live outside Dallas, even having to fight traffic everyday beats living in Dallas. I do almost all my shopping outside Dallas, I am not giving this City any more of my money than i have too.
R.I.P. Dallas
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Another OC Resident 09/11/2010 9:58:00 PM
One more comment, I used to work for a large city in Texas and council members were not allowed to contact city employees directly, they had to direct the communications through the city managers office and then it would work its way downhill. City employees chain of command stops at the CM office. He must file his grievances at a council meeting so they can all be made aware of this deplorable actions and potential abuse of public office.
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Another OC Resident 09/11/2010 9:50:00 PM
I would suggest Josh file an open records request pertaining to all communications for his ordeal, you never know what you may find. http://www.ci.dallas.tx.us/forms/Form_open_records.htm Second, use the internal audit process mentioned in the comments. He should not rule out a lawsuit. He must also fight this up the food chain and let all his state and federal representatives, know his plight. If these occurrences are as stated there should be NO way the City can get away with this.
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DARRD 09/11/2010 6:27:00 PM
Oh, JimS: I never said I was so smart. In fact, you would be the smarter one here and I gladly give you the props. I only use the word "sue" in order to create more attention to the matter via media, conversation, etc. It seems that no one in Dallas pays attention to what's really going except for you and your readers/fans(that would be me). To be polite and send a little email or a little fax never quite does the job. Here, you either have to climb a tree, lay in the middle of the road, or "sue" just to make a point. You are correct that it will take some "digging" to unearth more info. But in the scheme of things, Dave and the other city council members are easy game. Even mayor Tom is really small game.Your big "get" would be the city manager. Now there's something to achieve. You get her to talk or her staff, then you win the prize. What's so funny is how so many people have been against the "strong mayor" form of government in the past. "Oh we don't want to be another Chicago, New York, or THOSE places". LOL! Guess they never figured on Mary Suhm being the one who runs the show, know what I mean? You know what starts at the top and runs down hill......... Keep digging, but please do it in the correct pile.
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Paul 09/11/2010 12:58:00 AM
What a delight to see Jim Schutz posting in response to comments. That's pretty rare in most publications. Maybe I should spend more time reading the Observer.
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Dallas Diner 09/11/2010 12:31:00 AM
To Neighbor of Property: "I'm not out to see Mr. Terry lose money on what he's done, but merely suggesting that more could have been done on his part to understand the community and what it means to improve a property in a historic area." Understand the community? Like he should have guessed that rehabilitating a dump would offend the the community? Nice to see that you're now concerned for Mr. Terry, especially since it was your suggesiton that he suck it up and spend additional money to convert the property to single resident use and move in so that you could "welcome him as a neighbor." I hope that you remember this the next time you want to remodel your house; be sure and do a full neighborhood sentiment survey after you get all of the correct permits, to make sure that your plans meet with neighborhood approval and that all of the neigbors think you are doing it in a manner that they consider to be historically correct. In the meantime, just hope that Mr. Terry doesn't throw his hands up and sell it to that family of meth making bikers.
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Jay 09/10/2010 10:57:00 PM
All Josh really needed to do before he began his project was to properly grease Neumann's grubby palm, that is unless unless someone else had already greased Neumann's grubby palm to kill the project. In that case, Josh would have needed to grease Willis Johnson's grubby palm in order to evoke the indignant mayor card.
Ward Bosses don't like it when the peons fail to pay tribute.
Josh, Dallas is a "pay to play" city. I would have though that had been thoroughly covered over the past few years.
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JF 09/10/2010 10:07:00 PM
There are so many things that don't add up here. I personally would not buy a property as a rental property that had a homestead exemption on it. By definition that cannot go to a home that is multi-family, although I suspect there are about 10 different government institutions overseeing these things and who knows which is the best to listen to. Given the parking situation that Mary pointed out, I'm also not sure how it could have been a legal, functioning multi-family in its current form. That doesn't change the conduct of the city (and I'd never put something dirty past Neumann), and I feel for him that he took their word for it and invested the money. I walk by this property a few times a week, and it's a shame that it won't be improved and will spend probably another year or more in a state of limbo.
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Neighbor of Property 09/10/2010 9:33:00 PM
To Dallas Diner & Happy: I'm only suggesting that perhaps there is more to this story then what's been reported. I'm not out to see Mr. Terry lose money on what he's done, but merely suggesting that more could have been done on his part to understand the community and what it means to improve a property in a historic area. Happy, as for the 30 neighbors who support the project, I do not recall reading anything about that in the article Can you tell us more about that?
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Happy 09/10/2010 8:20:00 PM
Neighbor of Property 09/10/2010 10:11:01 AM I read your comment and then thought, it's as though this person did not read one sentence in this article. Mr. Terry did all the necessary steps PRIOR to improving the property and then the city said no sorry we messed up. Mr. Terry has signatures from over 30 neighbors supporting the project. If he bought it for land value as you suggest why on earth would he have spent $100,00 in improvements? Please read the entire article and process what you have read before commenting otherwise you just look plain silly.
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Texgotham 09/10/2010 8:02:00 PM
Reminds me Jimmy Breslin's book "How the Good Guys Finally Won," wherein he characterized the Nixon campaign's demand for #100,000 to fix a tax problem as Mafia-like. "...I have known other men, more honorable men, who will merely tell you 'pay or die.'"
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Dallas Diner 09/10/2010 7:45:00 PM
To Neighbor of Property:
1. "Had he taken time to meet and know the neighbors he would have quickly learned how people feel about the property and what the people of the community want." You had a rundown multifamily property in the neighborhood that had been in deteriorating condition for years. Don't you think it was fair to assume that the neighbors would be happy that someone was improving it?
2. "According to a conversation Josh had with a neighbor, Josh was warned early on that he might have problems with zoning status of the property and he should look into the matter before doing any improvements, but decided to push on with renovations. " Did you read the article? That is exactly what he did. He had concerns, so he checked with the City and did everything the City told him he needed to do BEFORE he went ahead with the renovations. It was only after he had completed the work that the City said "oops."
3. "In fact as a neighbor I would invite Josh and his wife to complete the work as a single family and move into the property as a resident; we would love to have them as our neighbor." So after you applaud the City for lying to him, screwing him over and starting him on the road to financial ruin, you and the family would love to have him over for a cup of coffee if he'd only take the risk that the City won't screw him over again and go ahead and spend about another $100K ripping all the work out to convert o a single family residence? Nice.
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Neighbor of Property 09/10/2010 7:11:00 PM
I'm a neighbor of this property. Before buying the property why didn’t Josh spend time getting to know the history of the property and the neighbors? Had he taken time to meet and know the neighbors he would have quickly learned how people feel about the property and what the people of the community want.
Shouldn’t this have been a part of Josh's due diligence process? And did Josh speak to the members of the Kings Highway Conservation District? If he had, I’m guessing he might have learned more about what happens with nonconforming statuses after a property has been abandoned for a period of time.
According to a conversation Josh had with a neighbor, Josh was warned early on that he might have problems with zoning status of the property and he should look into the matter before doing any improvements, but decided to push on with renovations. He purchased the property for basically land value, so although he has put a fair bit of money into it thus far, he stands to still make money by turning it into a single family property. In fact as a neighbor I would invite Josh and his wife to complete the work as a single family and move into the property as a resident; we would love to have them as our neighbor.
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JimS 09/10/2010 6:53:00 PM
Mary -- help me with the numbers. I realize that DCAD values are not market values. But the residential values I see up and down Winnetka have a DCAD cieling of about $300,000 -- more like $150,000 on Terry's block. So he spends $90,000 to buy and puts $100,000 cash in it as multi-fmaily. To convert it to residential he has to tear out most of his apartment work and tear down the property in back, then spend fresh money to make it a single-family. So how would you do this, Mary, and come out whole? And please don't tell me you don't care. That would be stealing, ma'am. His argument on the zoning, backed by a hell of a lot of evidence, is that he does have the zoning. It's grandfathered nonconforming multifamily -- what the city said first. By the way he does want to re-do the exterior but can't because of all this. As for your argument that all multifamily is just bad bad bad, tell that to Rick Garza. And I don't mean to wag a finger at him -- he does great stuff. But you can't just let the insiders do it and then screw the innocent victim who wanders in from outside the local political clan. That's all-cousin hillbilly stuff. That's what's bad bad bad.
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Dallas Diner 09/10/2010 6:38:00 PM
Gosh Mary, after Mr. Terry takes on debt to buy the property, spends over $100K of borrowed money to remodel, and jumps through all of regulatory hoops, the City places new and changing "hit the moving target" conditions on granting the occupancy permit. After Mr Terry hits every one of those targets and the CIty can't come up with any others, the City says essentially "fingers crossed, ha, ha, ha," and your solution is that Mr Terry should go borrow more money to try to make it into a single family house in the hope that that will satisfy a City which has shown it has no problem going back on its word? Mr. Terry's wasn't the "oh dear, isn't that awful," run-around by the City that you suggest; he was lied to, mislead, flimflammed and financially damaged. Poetic justice will come when he sells the property as a single family residence to a bunch of meth cooking bikers. And Mary, looking forward to hearing you tell us about "the run-around by the City" you get when you get halfway through a permitted bathroom remodel and the City tells you your house isn't zoned for a toilet.
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Homeless Bum at Cliff Manor 09/10/2010 5:42:00 PM
this will be a perfect shelter for homeless -
give them a home and we instantly become home "dwellers"
I LOVE WELFARE
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FRED 09/10/2010 5:05:00 PM
Montemalone 09/09/2010 6:50:41 PM
His first and last mistake was calling the city. Just do it.
Montemalone has a point - I did a renovation project several years ago and it was like pulling teeth just to get a building permit - multiple trips to the Jefferson Ave office where nobody seemed to care. Inspectors never came out, never heard another word. I have just 'done it' since - why bother with the time and expense to get a permit? The illegals never seem to and they even add space which doesn't show up on the tax rolls. Oh and code enforcement never seems to bother them, either - just the citizens who pay.
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Chula 09/10/2010 5:00:00 PM
Do I think the City needs a tax hike? Nope.
Do I think they need another visit from the feds? Yep.
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knoxharrington 09/10/2010 4:50:00 PM
Hey Leppert - If you want to be in the Senate so bad, show you have some stones and get the council and the bureaucrats in the Hall under control.
Is anyone surprised that government - at any level - is corrupt, stupid, lazy and inefficient. Really - is anyone surprised at all?
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Mary 09/10/2010 4:34:00 PM
DCAD shows the State Code as MFR (Multi-Family) but it is zoned Single Family and always has been. I live around the corner from this eyesore, and although I am not opposed to multi-family housing in the area, has anyone considered that there is no parking for that property, unless of course you tear down the crap of a house that sits behind it? I believe Mr. Terry was quoted as saying when asked that question, that tenants could park in the alley???? If you live in the area, as does Rick Garza, and take pride in where you live, you can have multi-family buildings and get quality tenants. The properties on Kings Hwy. are zoned multi-family, that property is not. Once the property is made multi-family, what happens when it's sold to some "slum-lord" who doesn't care who lives there? I'm sorry that Mr. Terry was given the run-around by the City and that he's spent all that money, but put a little more money into it and make it a single-family home! There are a lot of us in the neighborhood that don't want more rental property! It just attracts trouble!
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ann1938 09/10/2010 2:10:00 PM
This is typical of the idiocy we see in today's Dallas city council and the city manager's office. While, years ago, the powered people ran the city, at least they looked out for the betterment of the community. What we have today is a bunch of self-serving incompetents who look out only for their own interests. You can bet there is somebody who has decided to use this building for his own purpose. Why do we need a signature bridge in west Dallas and a taxpayer-funded hotel that will only sit empty in this economy, and at the same time take away public safety by giving police and firefighters unpaid furloughs and reduced salaries? This entire system of single-district representation has been a collosal failure. Mary Suhm had no experience nor preparation for her job as city manager. She was a librarian's assistant (oh, and a buddy of Laura Miller, and we all know what a great mayor she was)! This is just an example of more of the corruption we see at city hall.
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JimS 09/10/2010 4:36:00 AM
OC Resident: I know what you mean about lipstick. But that's the nitwit who thinks he can fix a bad foundation, bad plumbing and wiring, bad roof and bad exterior with paint. You should go tour this place. The Terrys have been very smart about it. They've got the place square, dry, new plumbed, new wired, new floored, and then they did good painting and sheetrock and put in good appliances. My main connection with the crap rental market these days is thorough my son, and I have to say, the Terrys' place is way above the last apartment he rented two blocks from our house. I really don't believe this is driven by neighbors, generally. I think it's probably driven by a neighbor. A neighbor with connections.
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OC Resident 09/10/2010 4:17:00 AM
I don't doubt JimS' assertion that numerous neighbors wanted to see the property fixed up. I've lived within 4 blocks of it for 4 years, the whole time it was dismal and getting worse by the day. It was obvious when a new owner came along and started working on it, but it is possible the owner has expectations exceeding what the property is capable of in its present condition. On the other hand, I've heard directly from other residents near the subject property, on more than one occasion, that they'd rather see the whole thing torn down and replaced. I've not heard any specific objections to a multi-family building. But don't just slap $100K worth of lipstick on a pig.
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JimS 09/10/2010 4:07:00 AM
Final note: someone suggested the Terrys may have stopped spending money because of the city's behavior. Yeah, they can't do more work. The city has stopped them. All they can do now is pay interest and not collect rent. They had somebody who wanted to rent a free-standing completed unit in back, but the city wouldn't allow that.
One other suggestion in the comments: that the neighbors didn't like what the property used to be, so they're taking it out on this couple, who are trying to improve it. I know that happens. It happens on my street in East Dallas, too. The big problem with that kind of behavior? It's immoral.
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JimS 09/10/2010 3:55:00 AM
DARRD: You may not be the expert you think you are here. Not only did Terry check the DCAD records but by going over there he got to the appraiser notes page clearly showing DCAD recognized it as grandfathered multifamily. City says it's not bound by what DCAD thinks. Another commenter suggested the real agenda here is neighbors who object to the structure. But Terry has gathered signatures from over 30 neighbors who approve of is project, one who was neutral and one who objected but faintly, at least to him. I picked up very strong indications that at least one neighbor has shown interest in buying this property and that neighbor has direct on-the-record political ties to Neumann. I'd think much more in that direction. Someone else suggested he can sue. And win. Well, anybody can sue, but the city, with its floor full of lawyers, can deep pockets you until they run the board in tiem and money. And even at that, I'm not suire you're right. A lawyer with a lot of City Hall experience explained to me today that the city by law cannot be "estopped." The fact that the city tells you one thing does not mean it is bound to anything. It's not like you, pilgrim. It's the city. That's different, in the law and in fact. What we may really need here is some more concerted digging, if I cna get to it, in terms of who has tried to buy this place in the past and what their connections are to Neumann.
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Montemalone 09/10/2010 3:50:00 AM
His first and last mistake was calling the city.
Just do it.
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steve perry 09/10/2010 3:46:00 AM
Time to fire the goon council member that called and time to fire the rats.
Smells like a cover up to me.
Smells like incompetence to me.
This just smells. A$$holes at Dallas City Hall. What idiots.
You hate to have to sue them, but that's what it boils down to.
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JimS 09/10/2010 3:44:00 AM
shouldn't headline read, "crappily?"
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RJR 09/10/2010 3:32:00 AM
Truth is stranger than fiction. Crazy.
So, the Homes of Kings Way can do apartments (they have nine MF buildings there), but this guy can't?
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OC Resident 09/10/2010 2:59:00 AM
Dave isn't trying to squash this deal in order for the city to move homeless people into the building, mainly because he lives half a block from the multi-family property. One main issue, which Jim didn't mention, is that the property is quite unattractive (cracked bricks, missing vent covers, no landscaping, etc). The interior may look fantastic now, but the outside still looks terrible, although, granted, it looks much better than it did two years ago. Maybe that's because the owner stopped putting money into it once the city began throwing up idiotic roadblocks. Several blocks within Oak Cliff around this property have older, long existing multi-family buildings. Most of them are very well maintained and updated, but this particular one was allowed to rot for a long time. If the owners have already spent $100K then they had better have been planning to spend another $100K on the exterior, otherwise the only tenants they'd have likely attracted would be low income day laborers sleeping ten to a room. The city is acting very poorly in an attempt to avoid stating the fact that a lot of neighbors don't like living that close to what used to be a run-down tenament and would prefer to see it gone than see it remain as it looks now. I feel sorry for the owners and the idea they may lose a lot of money, but I also understand the neighborhood sentiment.
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Arnie 09/10/2010 2:42:00 AM
In answer to your closing question, we don't give them a tax hike. They take it. Sort of reminds me of thieves.
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Joyce Hosick 09/10/2010 2:33:00 AM
It is just unbelievable - are the city people so incompetent that they don't know these things - or is it the city council they are afraid of? If so, looks like Dallas needs better people on the council. Rational thinking would say this project would be an improvement rather than a liability unless someone on the council has his/her eyes on the property, also.
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DARRD 09/10/2010 2:25:00 AM
Oh yeah, tell me more about David Cossum (under Queen Mary's thumb)
Dave Neumann(under Queen Mary's thumb) everyone is, including the mayor. They should sue the city and name Mary Suhm the city manager as his target. This is only the tip of the iceberg-the applications currently waiting for approval to install natural gas wells tell a lot about what's going on. The city is a whore.
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09/10/2010 1:22:00 AM
Jim-thanks for the heads up on YET ANOTHER problem at city hall. Typical business as usual down there. When they aren’t raising taxes they are busy closing long established businesses and throwing their weight around.
Sure does seem to me that the FBI should have investigated some of the other council members while they were going after felon Don Hill. Looks like the same type of antics continuing.
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chevytexas 09/09/2010 11:46:00 PM
Well, here's the thing: even the simplest preview by any prospective buyer of the Dallas County appraiser's office online can check the zoning of record. Everything in that block (and neighboring blocks) is Single Family only. Once he bought it from HUD (who you'd think would reveal such things; did they sell it as MF?), years previous records reveal the former owner in 2009 as "Blance Rodriguez...Unit 5, 939 Winnetka". Unit 5, but this is not multi-family? Get a lawyer, bub: you don't have a rental property but you could have some serious public funding of your new single-family home:). Note to self: are all those empty Gaston Avenue apartment buildings losing their MF zoning?
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J. Erik Jonsson 09/09/2010 11:35:00 PM
Jim, come on. He CAN sue on the zoning issue, and he'll probably win. If your point is that he can't recover his fees and that alone might make the entire venture unprofitable, then OK. But the guy can and should sue.
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jamie 09/09/2010 9:47:00 PM
This is an outrage!
It seems these people were more than prudent, and made sure their project/investment met all of the City criteria before they started. The City Manager, Mayor, and all members of City Council should move immediately to correct this unjustice. This kind of stuff just gives Dallas a worse reputation. No one will want to come to Dallas and make an investment if they think the rug can be pulled from beneath them at any time on a whim.
Dallas' reputation and honor are at stake; the leadership of the City should respond appropriately.
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fred 09/09/2010 9:05:00 PM
So does this mean that several of the Gaston and Live Oak apartment buildings sitting vacant are gonna go back to single family?
This guy should be reimbursed at the very least. Thanks Jim for shedding light on this - the man tried to do something good for our city and he should be commended, not 'condemned'.
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bigdandfw2000 09/09/2010 9:01:00 PM
But they will defend to the death a developer's right to consider dirt-filled planters as "the ground"
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NewsDog 09/09/2010 7:56:00 PM
It sounds like someone didn't get their 'equity share' of the project.
Man, am I glad I don't live in the City or County of Dallas.
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M 09/09/2010 7:42:00 PM
Isn't there some way to form a pettition and send it to this council man since these poor people have already done the work and spent the money? I live in the Oak Cliff area and think it would be a wonderful addition here. As a registered and active voter I would definitely sign it. I think this would make a great story for one of the local media stations as well. Don't give up!
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Tim Covington 09/09/2010 7:06:00 PM
And people wonder why I want to move out of the city to someplace that is unincorporated?
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Steve Turman 09/09/2010 6:25:00 PM
The City Auditor's Office has an investigative unit that can review all this (I used to work in it). They used to be good and objective; however, the Auditor does report to Council, so there may be political considerations.
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DLP 09/09/2010 5:32:00 PM
Ugh...
I am embarrassed to say I am from Dallas. I grew up here and now live and work here. We need to speak up as citizens and make this right. When it is time to vote we need to again stand up and do what is right.
This is sad, I can't imagine the stress this guy must be going through.
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roman g smetak 09/09/2010 4:27:00 PM
wow thats so C-O-D completely tasteless indeed not to mention dishonorable & crooked. Terry,you should check into the title sections of the records bldg. first you're looking for named relatives {even distant ones} that have a family presence on the city council bench or in the city gvt. you can tell where im going here. then while youre at it & in the same bldg. {records} check the previous owners & whether they had to file multi family on the city dockets also go to the property tax division &
see how many owners paid multi fam tax rates on said property, armed with these facts sue the city for back taxes in the amount desireable to you and demand a refund on all previous taxes + intrest + administration costs, this will rock the city pretty bad because theyre already scrambleing to steal more money for the budget & a lawsuit of this magnitude nameing names will no doubt cause somebody high up to begin sweating, and then file a discrimination suit because youre trying to do this legal but are being forced by the city to abandon this project & while youre at it contact the dallas historical & state historical comissions if they havent been infiltrated & corrupted by Perrys criminal enterprises you should get some good support there {i believe its illegal to modernize in a historic bldg without previous approval from those commissions unless public safety is a concern & your types of modernization more than meet with safety regulations, i think it may be modernized to the extent of internal upgrades but must remain "old to the onlookers eyes"
hope my long wind was helpful.
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Shawn 09/09/2010 3:50:00 PM
The City staff can't say no to the Council member because the City Manager won't back them up. She's the one that rolls over when Council says boo, so staff follows her lead to keep from getting fired. You want to change this? Find a City Manager that will tell the Council members to go to hell when the law is being followed.
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The Plumber 09/09/2010 7:48:00 AM
Building Inspection is so used to just selling permits over the counter and it's not until half a project is started that they remember that they should send an inspector out at the beginning to ok the application. Best to catch them right before lunch, that way, they are in a rush and will quickly sell you a permit and hope nothing like this happens.
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nod nod wink wink 09/09/2010 2:11:00 AM
Sovereign Immunity should be repealed. The idea behind sovereign immunity is to protect municipalities when they (oops) make a mistake. It has now been expanded to the point where the only thing a municipality CAN be sued for is loss of life. But this "mistake" is obviously NOT a mistake. This story sheds new light on the people who demolished a historic building in the West End AFTER the City granted the demolition permits. The very least the City should do for this man to restore him to his position before they made their "MISTAKE". They should reimburse him for all of his expenses, and they should buy the property from him. And, surely someone (city council person) should be investigated and some staff members should be fired.
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Dallas Diner 09/09/2010 1:25:00 AM
The reason that Dave Neumann wants to put the kibosh on this project is so once the Terrys fail and the property goes into foreclosure, the city can buy it and move the formerly homeless into it. Thus killing two birds with one stone; getting five more affordable housing units and getting the residents of the Stephens Park neighborhood off Neumann's back by "spreading" the sacrifice. Is Neumann an evil squeaky-helium-voiced genius or what?
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DB 09/08/2010 11:49:00 PM
Schutze, you're lying. You have to be. No City Hall can be this smug and corrupt....can it?
Nah, you have to be lying about all this. Oh wait, did you say Dallas TEXAS?
Never mind.
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David 09/08/2010 11:44:00 PM
it just goes to show, what we all need is vote out all of these sorry self-centered idiot council men and find real people to fill their spots!